Lib Dems

[lifetime fan]

1 minute ago, Pidge said:

Paddy Ashdown has passed away after a short illness.  Had nothing but respect for him throughout my voting life.  The country and the political landscape is worse off without him.

 

Always had a lot of time for him, put to shame some of his successors. 

[lifetime fan]

Stronts - would you have backed his mid 90’s idea of merging with Blair’s Labour Party? 

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, lifetime fan said:

Stronts - would you have backed his mid 90’s idea of merging with Blair’s Labour Party? 

 

I thought Blair came up with that one. I don't think I would have supported that and most people on both sides were quite opposed to it.

 

With that said, I think a New Labour type party with its worst (authoritarian) tendencies mollified by Liberals would be quite an attractive proposition.

[lifetime fan]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I thought Blair came up with that one. I don't think I would have supported that and most people on both sides were quite opposed to it.

 

With that said, I think a New Labour type party with its worst (authoritarian) tendencies mollified by Liberals would be quite an attractive proposition.

 

From memory it was Ashdown who came up with the idea and Blair was interested until he realised he could win without the libs. 

 

Would have been a very interesting proposition though. 

 

I would love a PR system, a labour led administration with the libs, Greens, Plaid and the SNP could do great things for the country. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Tory Brexiteer heckling a tribute to Ashdown (y'know, just in case you were not yet convinced that Tory Brexiteers are all vile cunts).

 

 

[Jairzinho]

Sincere apology, that.

 

Ukrainian parliament rules should come into action here. 

[Rico1304]

Here’s something posted by the long lost Stu M 

 

 

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Here’s something posted by the long lost Stu M 

 

 

 

But apart from preventing maternity rights from being scrapped, the introduction of at-will dismissal, abolition of the Equality & Human Rights Commission and the Public Sector Equality Duty, forcing people to give up employment rights for shares, and the undermining of trade union protections, what did the Lib Dems do to stop Tory excesses in coalition?

[cloggypop]

Sold the post office. 

[Anny Road]

Tuition fees are not much fun.

[Em City]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Here’s something posted by the long lost Stu M 

 

 

 

Are you going to switch from Tory to Lib Dem?

[Strontium]

8 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Sold the post office. 

 

Royal Mail actually.

 

Shares are currently trading at 272p, some way down on the "cut price" 330p a share that Cable sold them off at. So if you think it was sold off cheap, now's your chance to bag a bargain (anyone? nope didn't think so...)

[cloggypop]

How much has posting a letter gone up? Probably a bit more relevant. 

[cloggypop]

Ah, above inflation. 

 

https://www.moneywise.co.uk/news/2018-02-19/royal-mail-announces-inflation-busting-stamp-price-hikes

[Anubis]

23 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Sold the post office. 

 

But got two packs of delicious Twinkies for it.

[Rico1304]

17 minutes ago, Em City said:

 

Are you going to switch from Tory to Lib Dem?

Nah, too many nonces 

[Anny Road]

17 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Royal Mail actually.

 

Shares are currently trading at 272p, some way down on the "cut price" 330p a share that Cable sold them off at. So if you think it was sold off cheap, now's your chance to bag a bargain (anyone? nope didn't think so...)

Spoken like a true free market Tory.

[Rico1304]

13 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Ah, above inflation. 

 

https://www.moneywise.co.uk/news/2018-02-19/royal-mail-announces-inflation-busting-stamp-price-hikes

Probably to pay for the 5% pay rise for the workers. 

[Strontium]

4 minutes ago, iPlop said:

Spoken like a true free market Tory.

 

Pointing out facts makes a person a free market Tory? What an odd comment.

[Anny Road]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Pointing out facts makes a person a free market Tory? What an odd comment.

Not odd in the slightest if the only value you attach to a publicly owned institution is its share price and a profit to be made.

Will you ever in your life say ‘ Yeah we shouldn’t have done that’

[ZonkoVille77]

They could do with Chukka, Berger, Watson et al joining them. 

[Em City]

11 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Nah, too many nonces 

 "You need a bit of that" - The Catholic Church

[Numero Veinticinco]

44 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

But apart from preventing maternity rights from being scrapped, the introduction of at-will dismissal, abolition of the Equality & Human Rights Commission and the Public Sector Equality Duty, forcing people to give up employment rights for shares, and the undermining of trade union protections, what did the Lib Dems do to stop Tory excesses in coalition?

You can't have done that or the government would have fallen. 

 

*cough*

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, iPlop said:

Not odd in the slightest if the only value you attach to a publicly owned institution is its share price and a profit to be made.

Will you ever in your life say ‘ Yeah we shouldn’t have done that’

 

I'm not sure I follow your logic.

 

The claim, repeated often, has been that Vince Cable/the Lib Dems sold off Royal Mail for less than it was worth.

 

It was sold at 330p a share and is currently trading at 275.8p, rendering the claim that it was sold off for less than it was worth to be demonstrably false.

 

You seem to be making a different argument altogether. Which is fine, but it's clearly not the one I'm responding to.

[Anny Road]

It was making 1 million pound a day profit. It should never have been sold full stop. The share price is irrelevant.

Do you agree with privatisation of national utilities? Even profitable ones?