Lib Dems

[Moo]

The Lib Dems helped the Tories to victory again :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/16/lib-dems-tories-split-vote-labour

[Denny Crane]

4 minutes ago, Moo said:

The Lib Dems helped the Tories to victory again :

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/16/lib-dems-tories-split-vote-labour

 

My mood change 

 

 

The Lib Dems helped the Tories to victory again. Now they should disband

 

to

 

 It should now merge with Labour and become a moderate influence

 

 

[Dr Nowt]

Sometimes it’s almost like the Lib Dems feel they have a right to campaign and represent their voting base just the same as Labour do. Get a grip. They’re not some junior arm of the Labour Party and remain distinct from them in many ways, in some areas they’re more towards the right and in others more towards the left. Swinson was dead right on that score, whether people like her or not. Can guarantee none of the Labour Leave voters who swapped aisles in the Midlands and the North were considering whether it was the Lib Dems or the Tories they should go over to.

 

Each of the 3 main parties have their own demographic, and there’s a Venn diagram where they cross over in different areas. If there’s consensus around issues in the future then perhaps some sort of progressive, anti-nationalist Tory alliance can be built, even if on a vote-by-vote basis. But the idea the issue can be solved by the Lib Dems, the Greens or any other socially and/or economically left-leaning political party just wholly subsuming themselves into the Labour Party is fucking ridiculous.

[Strontium]

Can anyone really imagine me and Nelly-Torres in the same political party? I rest my case.

 

Two party politics is reinforced by our FPTP voting system. That's what needs to change.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Obsessed. 

 

Bless. 

[lifetime fan]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Flavible and Survation are nothing to do with the Lib Dems.

 

You seem to be blaming us for the accuracy of their data.

Flavible told you not to use their data in the way you did for BNW. 
 

You chose to ignore them and went with the lie. 

[lifetime fan]

44 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Can anyone really imagine me and Nelly-Torres in the same political party? I rest my case.

 

Two party politics is reinforced by our FPTP voting system. That's what needs to change.

I’ve agreed with you on that for years. 

[Strontium]

I'm not aware of Flavible's data being used in any meaningful way in the latter part of the campaign, after they made their feelings abundantly clear on that score. Obviously in retrospect it turned out to be incorrect in a number of places, but I don't see a genuine desire to mislead. Parties always pick data that makes them look good, which is why eg Labour in Wimbledon were still harping back to the 2017 result even when it was apparent from constituency polling that they were well back in third.

[aRdja]

Chuka admitted on national tele that they intentionally tried to mislead people didn’t he? I’ve posted the clip here before like.

[Moo]

32 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

Chuka admitted on national tele that they intentionally tried to mislead people didn’t he? I’ve posted the clip here before like.

I think the Lib Dems might rue the day they let him join them. 

I hope that one day the Lib Dems get back to being the party of Charles Kennedy so I can like them again.  I'd probably never vote for them again but I want to be able to respect what they stand for. 

[lifetime fan]

38 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I'm not aware of Flavible's data being used in any meaningful way in the latter part of the campaign, after they made their feelings abundantly clear on that score. Obviously in retrospect it turned out to be incorrect in a number of places, but I don't see a genuine desire to mislead. Parties always pick data that makes them look good, which is why eg Labour in Wimbledon were still harping back to the 2017 result even when it was apparent from constituency polling that they were well back in third.

Any comment on this? 
 

Sent out the week of the GE election by the way. 
 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

Any comment on this? 
 

Sent out the week of the GE election by the way. 
 

 

 

For clarity, the result:

 

Darren Jones (Labour): 27,330

Mark Weston (Conservative): 21,638

Chris Coleman (Liberal Democrat): 4,940

Heather Mack (Greens): 1,977

[Strontium]

18 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

Any comment on this? 
 

Sent out the week of the GE election by the way. 
 

 

 

 

Well that's clearly bollocks, if they're putting it out in election week. I can't defend that.

[lifetime fan]

Just now, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Well that's clearly bollocks, if they're putting it out in election week. I can't defend that.

Fair play for admitting that mate. 
 

Believe it or not I’d like a strong Lib Dem’s in Parliament, many of us have voted LD in the past and you had a universally popular leader in Kennedy. 

[Dr Nowt]

Well that's clearly bollocks, if they're putting it out in election week. I can't defend that.

 

[ZonkoVille77]

Hahahaha

[ZonkoVille77]

I would also consider myself more aligned to the Lib Dems of old. But they've just been awful since before Clegg and Swinson has just put me off forever. Shame really.

[Bjornebye]

Hahahaha

[Moo]

1 hour ago, Lizzie Birdsworths Wrinkled Chopper said:

Well that's clearly bollocks, if they're putting it out in election week. I can't defend that.

 

Perfect GIF, even if it is f**t***l on the GF. 

[Dougie Do'ins]

On 06/11/2019 at 14:31, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Can you really mislead people into believing something that is true?

 

Just so you know, I'll be bumping these posts when Labour finish third in Putney.

Almost forgot about this. Almost!!

 

1st, Labour 22,780

2nd Conservatives’ 18,006

3rd Liberal Democrats 8,548

 

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/putney-general-election-results-2019-17407926

[mars]

On 17/12/2019 at 17:11, ZonkoVille77 said:

I would also consider myself more aligned to the Lib Dems of old. But they've just been awful since before Clegg and Swinson has just put me off forever. Shame really.

Ditto.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

Almost forgot about this. Almost!!

 

1st, Labour 22,780

2nd Conservatives’ 18,006

3rd Liberal Democrats 8,548

 

https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/putney-general-election-results-2019-17407926

 

Yep, it's fair to say these projections were badly wrong in Putney, which was the only seat Labour gained in the entire country.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 17/12/2019 at 18:55, Moo said:

Perfect GIF, even if it is f**t***l on the GF. 

Moyes.

It only just counts as f******l.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Stronts - Any preferences on who you would like to replace Swinson?

[sir roger]

I think SD said he was backing Caroline Flack a few pages back.