Lib Dems

[moof]

Yeah, you are on no sound logical footing, since they are the only people with a workable proposal - and your lads and lasses are rejecting it out of hand. Lib Dem’s would prefer a no deal brexit, than a few weeks of Corbyn in Downing Street 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

After Brexit is done and dusted either way, the Lib Dems will just go back to being the irrelevant Party who are prepared to jump into bed with the Tories and fuck on their own core voters. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 hours ago, magicrat said:

They have made a massive error in rejecting Corbyn's proposal out of hand.  They should have agreed to sit down and discuss . All Swinson has done is to give comfort Johnson and his cronies who see a divided opposition, 

Correct. Wasn't Corbyn pilloried and called childish, immature etc when he refused to sit down for talks with May? 

 

Obviously, the same won't apply to Swinson... 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Swinson is a daft cow, in politics for herself. Her making it as leader of the Lib Dems is cringe worthy. 

[Boss]

Lib Dems and Labour are chalk and cheese. The Lib Dems are free market capitalists.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

It's really petty by the Lib Dems and shows that their "Bollocks to Brexit" gimmicky slogan has numerous caveats applied to it once you dig deeper. It's a hollow promise. 

 

The plan is to install an interim government. Purely to prevent a no deal Brexit. This government won't be elected on a manifesto or a series of policy pledges. It'll be installed for one purpose. And Swinson's personal dislike of Corbyn (not his politics and policies which will be largely irrelevant in the scenario in which he'd govern) appears to be more important to her than bollocking Brexit. 

 

More Lib Dem lies and smoke and mirrors. 

[mattyq]

It does seem a strategic error on Swinson's behalf

We'l do anything to stop Brexit apart from that...

[Strontium]

26 minutes ago, mattyq said:

It does seem a strategic error on Swinson's behalf

We'l do anything to stop Brexit apart from that...

 

It's a stunt. Flip it around - Labour are saying either support Corbyn as PM, or get No Deal. If Labour were serious about stopping No Deal, they'd be happy to support AN Other as interim PM. There's no earthly need for the temporary leader to be Corbyn, especially as he won't get the support of the TIGs or enough backbench Tories.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

It's a stunt. Flip it around - Labour are saying either support Corbyn as PM, or get No Deal. If Labour were serious about stopping No Deal, they'd be happy to support AN Other as interim PM. There's no earthly need for the temporary leader to be Corbyn, especially as he won't get the support of the TIGs or enough backbench Tories.

Well, he’s the leader of the opposition... who else has a better shout? 

 

For me its crazy for LD to reject it. Would you not be happy to have a short term, temp government of Corbyn and then an election, rather than a no deal Brexit and a Boris government? I mean, what else can actually be done? How are the LDs going to help avoid this shit? It’s all very well saying you’re the only party of remain, but when as chance comes along, if your actions actually secure a no deal... what good does it actually do anybody? 

 

For me, this is beyond party politics now. We are staring down the barrel of a No Deal Brexit. 

[Pureblood]

Just now, Numero Veinticinco said:

Would you not be happy to have a short term, temp government of Corbyn and then an election, rather than a no deal Brexit and a Boris government? 

Of course he wouldn't be.  His so called principles are as transparent as the Libs themselves.

[mattyq]

9 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

It's a stunt. Flip it around - Labour are saying either support Corbyn as PM, or get No Deal. If Labour were serious about stopping No Deal, they'd be happy to support AN Other as interim PM. There's no earthly need for the temporary leader to be Corbyn, especially as he won't get the support of the TIGs or enough backbench Tories.

I don't think Corbyn's a good leader but he's the natural choice for interim PM being the Leader of the Opposition and whatnot

I can see why the Tories wouldn't support him but the LD would almost certainly gain quite a few seats in the GE and if they don't support him they'll be see as Brexit enablers

[moof]

14 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

It's a stunt. Flip it around - Labour are saying either support Corbyn as PM, or get No Deal. If Labour were serious about stopping No Deal, they'd be happy to support AN Other as interim PM. There's no earthly need for the temporary leader to be Corbyn, especially as he won't get the support of the TIGs or enough backbench Tories.

Disingenuous beyond belief. 

[Strontium]

7 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Well, he’s the leader of the opposition... who else has a better shout? 

 

Call me crazy, but surely the leader of a unity government should be someone who can gather support from across the Commons, not someone who can barely count on the support of his own MPs.

 

A serious movement to attain enough support for a vote of no confidence would have involved work to build trust behind the scenes, rather than a public challenge to someone you've been calling a Tory and murderer for the last month. I think most people will see this for the empty grandstanding that it is.

[moof]

1 minute ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

I think most people will see this for the empty grandstanding that it is.

Agreed

[magicrat]

1 hour ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Correct. Wasn't Corbyn pilloried and called childish, immature etc when he refused to sit down for talks with May? 

 

Obviously, the same won't apply to Swinson... 

Well all it will mean is she will have to backtrack and talk to Labour like it or not. She has undermined her authority by silly posturing 

[Rico1304]

2 hours ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

Fixed that for you.

I’m sure if the shoe were on the other foot Corbyn would vote for Boris.  When he could have voted for a deal, what, 3 times now. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

27 minutes ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

Call me crazy, but surely the leader of a unity government should be someone who can gather support from across the Commons

Yes, that’s a fair point. He should get not be given that role to stop No Deal then have an election. Why couldn’t people get behind that? Nobody is asking to support him on nationalising the rail. 

 

You didnt answer my first question btw. 

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, Pistonbroke said:

Swinson is a daft cow, in politics for herself. Her making it as leader of the Lib Dems is cringe worthy. 

It is yet another batshit crazy appointment. She is one hypocritical little rat her. One step down from McVey levels of hideousness. 

[Pureblood]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You didnt answer my first question btw. 

You won't get one in a million years.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yes, that’s a fair point. He should get not be given that role to stop No Deal then have an election. Why couldn’t people get behind that? Nobody is asking to support him on nationalising the rail. 

 

You didnt answer my first question btw. 

If it doesn't suit him he won't. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

14 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

It is yet another batshit crazy appointment. She is one hypocritical little rat her. One step down from McVey levels of hideousness. 

 

Yeah. Kay 'The Cunt' Burley had a pop at war hero Simon Weston last week and Swinson defended her via a tweet, and admitted to have not even seen the interview and the disgusting comment made by BurleySwinson. Just another career politician who likes to Tweet absolute fucking garbage. 

[Strontium]

14 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

You didnt answer my first question btw. 

 

That was your first question. If there's any other question you want answered, just ask. I always answer every serious question put my way.

[moof]

I’m pretty sure she is a sociopath and a narcissist 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Yeah. Kay 'The Cunt' Burley had a pop at war hero Simon Weston last week and Swinson defended her via a tweet, and admitted to have not even seen the interview and the disgusting comment made by Swinson. Just another career politician who likes to Tweet absolute fucking garbage. 

I'm fond of Diane Abbot pulling up Prick Patel for that chicken box knife crime stunt. That is fucking racist never-mind borderline. Imagine if Labour did that!!!! The country would swallow itself up in rage. 

[Bjornebye]

Just now, moof said:

I’m pretty sure she is a sociopath and a narcissist 

If you don't tick 'yes' on the Lib-Dem application form then you don't get the gig.