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"I've watched it 50 times in there, not that I needed to - it's not a penalty," said the 28-year-old.

 

"I didn't touch him. I collided with Pepe, I didn't touch Valencia at all.

 

"The referee told me he had to give it. He thought I touched him. There was no point me arguing with him on the pitch afterwards because he had already given it.

 

"It's so frustrating because I've not touched him.

 

"It's cheating at the end of the day. You don't expect people to do that. This is one of the best leagues in the world and you've got people doing that."

 

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Such is Johnson's disappointment in the officiating from Sunday that he believes had it been Suarez who tumbled in the area, as Valencia did, then the Reds would not have won a penalty.

 

"I almost guarantee that if you flip it and Luis was the one who I was chasing and it's exactly the same situation with Luis rather than Valencia, then it wouldn't have been a penalty," he said.

 

"We all know that. Reputations go in front of people at times.

 

 

Read More Glen Johnson accuses Antonio Valencia of cheating to win penalty which led to Man United's victory over Liverpool FC - Liverpool FC News - Liverpool FC - Liverpool Echo

 

FA charge to follow.

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Steven Gerrard claims Luis Suarez is being victimised by referees - who think he's a diver.

 

Gerrard believes Suarez was denied a spot-kick by Mark Halsey when challenged by Manchester United's Jonny Evans in Sunday's 2-1 loss because of his reputation for going down easily.

 

The Reds skipper insists this is wrong, and wants officials to judge Suarez on the action in front of them, rather than his reputation.

 

"I think even when Luis gets blatant penalties now, he's never going to get them," he said. "It's down to referees to not judge him. They have got to make their decisions based on what they see.

 

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Liverpool: Luis Suarez is being picked on by referees says Steven Gerrard - Mirror Online

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Halsey gave fouls against us from 61% of our tackles while we only got fouls from 24% of the mancs tackles, make of that what you want.

 

The difference is remarkable and its not possible to explain it any other way than him being bent.

 

We made 23 tackles, 14 ended in a foul, the mancs made 29 tackles and 7 of them ended in a foul.

 

I'd liek to hear Halsey trying to explain that difference.

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I heard somebody on the news talking as if Twitter was a proper broadcast or publication like a newspaper. Common sense deficiency.

 

Yeah, mainstream media are in for a rude awakening once they discover 4chan.

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Halsey should be arrested for wasting police time. It's not their job to be moral guardians and tell people what they can and cannot say on things like Twitter. Halsey was NOT threatened, so why should the police be involved? He's such a drama queen and should expect some abuse as a ref, especially as he deliberately set out to screw us over, the massive fucking cunt.

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I like Glen Johnson.

 

He was the only player that spoke out for Suarez against that other cunt, and now standing up to the ref after that shambles on Sunday. Fair play.

 

Also, how are the FA not going to press charges for the chanting? They say "a minority of fans", but that's because there were around 40,000 home fans and the rest were Mancs. It was the majority of manc fans were chanting, but they were an overall minority.

 

Load of absolute cock.

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Steven Gerrard claims Luis Suarez is being victimised by referees - who think he's a diver.

 

Gerrard believes Suarez was denied a spot-kick by Mark Halsey when challenged by Manchester United's Jonny Evans in Sunday's 2-1 loss because of his reputation for going down easily.

 

The Reds skipper insists this is wrong, and wants officials to judge Suarez on the action in front of them, rather than his reputation.

 

"I think even when Luis gets blatant penalties now, he's never going to get them," he said. "It's down to referees to not judge him. They have got to make their decisions based on what they see.

 

 

From my seat on the Kop I thought that Evans had won the ball and that Scholes had cleaned out Sterling - looks like the complete opposite happened but it takes multiple viewings to come to a confident conclusion.

 

Main thing that gets me though is why wasn't a free kick given against Lindegaard for handling the back pass? Seems pretty clear now but was probably lost amongst the penalty appeals at the time.

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From my seat on the Kop I thought that Evans had won the ball and that Scholes had cleaned out Sterling - looks like the complete opposite happened but it takes multiple viewings to come to a confident conclusion.

 

Main thing that gets me though is why wasn't a free kick given against Lindegaard for handling the back pass? Seems pretty clear now but was probably lost amongst the penalty appeals at the time.

 

I'll tell you what, I think there's something in that. We all know Scholes cannae tackle, the wee ginger scamp, but to lunge in 2 footed in the box was a bit reckless. He only actually plays the ball with the inside of his leg looks to me. He definitely prevented sterling at least getting a shot off with his left foot.

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The suarez penalty incident is no surprise, you had apparent fans of this club on here in the sunderland match calling him a cunt and saying he has to cut out this diving shit when the rest of us could see what the replays showed, that he had been caught. (unbelievable that he got a yellow) It's no wonder then that someone that doesn't support the club is not giving him a penalty. Johnson is right, people should be judging the individual incidents not the person involved. I can't remember the last time I saw Suarez dive, have I ever?

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Its not always the dive its the way he goes down, if he just went down or stumbled down he'd get more but he often does that ronaldo esque thing were you make it more prominent and then it looks like a dive when in fact you've been caught

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Its not always the dive its the way he goes down, if he just went down or stumbled down he'd get more but he often does that ronaldo esque thing were you make it more prominent and then it looks like a dive when in fact you've been caught

 

So true. If he would just collapse to his knees or something like that he would more likely get the decision.

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I think the human element in referees ultimately affects their decision.

Once they believe one player is a 'nice guy' (Lampard) and another is a 'bad guy' (Suarez), even though they try to be fair, it's in the back of their minds and changes decisions.

 

He's no angel, but I've seen worse from Ashley Young (repeatedly) and Micah Richards (does it a lot, badly, never gets a thing for it).

 

Balotelli's worse (not diving, but overly dramatic). Will only get 30% of the decisions his way that others would get... but he's brought it on himself ultimately.

 

I think a solid season of no antics and the reputation can be overturned.

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fuck it, if he wants to fling his head back when going down legitimately then so what, it's either a penalty or it isn't, what the fuck you looking at the way he goes down for?

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Its not always the dive its the way he goes down, if he just went down or stumbled down he'd get more but he often does that ronaldo esque thing were you make it more prominent and then it looks like a dive when in fact you've been caught

 

Still worked/works for Ronaldo though.

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fuck it, if he wants to fling his head back when going down legitimately then so what, it's either a penalty or it isn't, what the fuck you looking at the way he goes down for?

I agree, he could do three somersaults and a pirouhette it matters not, it's either a penalty or it isn't.

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You're technically right, it doesn't matter as to whether it is or isn't a penalty.

 

However, it makes a huge difference to whether it's perceived to be a penalty or not, and since the referee is basing his decision on his perception, it does in fact matter. The fact is that no referee wants to find out later on that he was conned by a dive, so if the player is overacting (especially one with Suarez' reputation) the ref is less likely to give it.

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Been in Barcelona the past few days so been off this place and behind with the news, but I'm still sick over this.

 

Absolutely disgusting performance from Halsey. Just feels as though we can't catch a break at the moment.

 

Proud of the performance though. Think Rodgers will crack it, given time.

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to be fair if I was a ref I think I would go on reputation of a player for any decision that might be slightly contraversial, for example I'd never give Ronaldo or Drogba anything unless I was more than certain however with Luis (and he does dive too much for my liking) I don't believe it is based on a reputation for diving as it has happened so much more since the whole Evra debacle although to be fair although Luis doesn't get anywhere near as much as he should quite a few of them are ones that could go either way, what annoys me more is decisions to give Scum that penalty on sunday, there is no way anyone genuinely thought that was a foul

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I agree, he could do three somersaults and a pirouhette it matters not, it's either a penalty or it isn't.

 

Its not the way he goes down though, it is the way he manages to spring up from it, his feet never really touching the ground with his hands already waving furiously above his head.

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