So have we settled to be a Mid Table team?

[stephen.archiba]

Only asking!

[aRdja]

Maybe.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

It looks like it tonight, my red friends

[Bobby Hundreds]

I don't believe FSG have the ambition to make this club a successful club on the pitch. They're not bad owners they certainly got us out the shit but I just don't see how they could ever have us competing.

[clangers]

It's looking that way, we'll be the most profitable 11th placed club in Premiership history.

 

Actually to be fair if this is part of a long term strategy to make us profitable to ultimately allow us to re-invest sustainably in the club then fair enough. How far we may have fallen and how rapidly any profit deteriorates is open to question? The law of diminishing returns?

 

They could equally just be looking to slash the wage bill (which they've done over two years) to make us a more attractive proposition to a new buyer?

[Unrighteous]

... and we're back to Panic Stations.

[JaminKibbler]

If we'd have kept Carroll half the people on here, including me, would be saying how good the window was. Lack of due care and preperation fucked us up, as well as our stubbornness in the market when it mattered most. Victims of our own downfall is how I'd sum up tonight.

[stephen.archiba]

I just think it all indicates a lack of ambition on the part of the owners and senior management at the club and that we will be lucky to end up in the top half of the table.

[mike23]

Certainly seems that way. I used to start every season thinking this would be the year we turned things round and won the league. That's no longer even a vaguely realistic idea. Starting to wonder if we ever will again in my lifetime to be honest or we really have just become a team with nothing but a glorious history to live off. It's hard to see things changing so dramatically that we'll go from our present state to one of the top teams again. The current football landscape suggests that once you fall away from the top you can only get back with major investment and that just doesn't seem to be coming from the present owners.

[Preston Red]

It's a disappointing window but when you realise that nearly 2 years ago we were lucky to still have a club to support and piss and moan about, you can't really complain.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Im not panicking, I just think Rodgers looks as though he's been let down and we were absolutely desperate for a forward. I don't agree with the notion that they spent big and it was spent badly so they don't want to be burnt again, I think it's absurd football isn't a one off investment and then there you go all is rosey were going to win the league. It seems fsg have a very strict budget with little to no leeway I think sometimes you have to take the risk in order to push on. Be interesting to see what Rodgers has to say. We could still do okay if assaidi is good and maybe this young Turk.

[gingerhulk]

Forget tonight, but haven't we been a mid/just better than mid table team since rafa left?

 

Don't start with the anti rafa, pro rafa argument again, think this forum has seen enough of that.

[King Emlyn]

... and we're back to Panic Stations.

Yeah, kind of, if they can still turn a buck out of a middle table sleeping giant they'll be happy enough I suppose.

[G Richards]

No we have not. Out defence and midfield are excellent. We are disappointed by not getting a goalscorer today, as we are obviously short up top. But we are by no means a mid table club. We will fight hard for 4th this season. Rodgers has brought some good young talent in to the club. With the wages saved this transfer window I'd like to think we will be poised, should a deal for a striker materialize in January. The club has slipped back over the past 20 years, and in more recent years the disastrous H&G ownership, plus poor spending last summer, has hindered our re-emergence.

 

Rodgers is rebuilding and I generally like what I have seen so far. We will get there.

[xerxes]

4-6-0 and sustainable expenditure - it's the future.

[stephen.archiba]

Well now I would have to say that there would appear to be very little difference in the stance of the owners over transfer kitties! Perhaps Rafa had more balls than Brenda when it came to putting them under the spotlight a bit with regards to this. Think Rodgers has been made look a bit weak in my opinion.

[King Emlyn]

No we have not. Out defence and midfield are excellent. We are disappointed by not getting a goalscorer today, as we are obviously short up top. But we are by no means a mid table club. We will fight hard for 4th this season. Rodgers has brought some good young talent in to the club. With the wages saved this transfer window I'd like to think we will be poised, should a deal for a striker materialize in January. The club has slipped back over the past 20 years, and in more recent years the disastrous H&G ownership, plus poor spending last summer, has hindered our re-emergence.

 

Rodgers is rebuilding and I generally like what I have seen so far. We will get there.

4th? Do you wear one of those dicky bows that twirl around?

[dickie mint]

After today we have shown we can't or wont compete in the money stakes so sadly we will be left behind and midtable is about right.

[clangers]

"We certainly have the resources to compete with anybody in football." , I can't remember who said that previously? The words 'spade' and 'ground' come to mind.

[TheHowieLama]

Well now I would have to say that there would appear to be very little difference in the stance of the owners over transfer kitties! Perhaps Rafa had more balls than Brenda when it came to putting them under the spotlight a bit with regards to this. Think Rodgers has been made look a bit weak in my opinion.

 

How does a fella like you stay in the red for all these years?

[King Emlyn]

... and we're back to Panic Stations.

As well we might be

[RobbieOR]

No.

[Jairzinho]

What qualifies as mid table?

[Bobby Hundreds]

What qualifies as mid table?

 

For me anything below 4th and above relegation, finish there and your just a pointless irrelevant trumpet that year, Very harsh I know.

[ChicagoRed]

I think Rodgers made a mistake by stating publicly he needs more players. Now he looks like a loser which is so far from the truth. I'm glad we missed out on Dempsey, and I'm not sorry about the departures EXCEPT Big Andy.

When we are one down with 30 minutes left, who do we call on to change the game?

A lesson learned for BR and FSG I hope