Lance Armstrong calls it quits in fight against doping charges

[RobbieOR]

well, she was from Tallaght, so the answer is probably yes :D

 

Nah, only if she was from Inchicore.

[setreal]

"This just in:

 

USADA confirms Code tested positive for bath salts. More to follow..."

 

Will they stop at nothing?

[Code]

So to be clear your position is that everyone of the 26 witnesses have been bribed or coerced into lying by USADA?

 

Are you Phil Liggett?

 

Considering most of them have been caught using drugs the majority of those witnesses have little credibility with me so most likely yes.

[Lario]

So he's tested positive, and there are 26 eye witness statements saying he doped, and yet code is still denying it?

 

Just like any other day on TLW.

[L19red]

Considering most of them have been caught using drugs the majority of those witnesses have little credibility with me so most likely yes.

 

By your own standard of a failed test I think its only Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton that have been caught.

 

Guys like Levi Leipheimer, Dave Zabriskie, Frankie Andreu, George Hincapie Jonathon Vaughters and Michael Barry have never been caught.

 

Then you have all the other witnesses who were not cyclists so have definately not doped. They're the ones that must have been paid off.

 

Edit: I'm wrong, Levi was popped in 1996 when still an amateur.

[Duff Man]

The fucking CIA?

 

Good grief.

[stevebaby]

Considering most of them have been caught using drugs the majority of those witnesses have little credibility with me so most likely yes.

Which ones had positive tests?

[stevebaby]

Considering most of them have been caught using drugs the majority of those witnesses have little credibility with me so most likely yes.

Which of the 26 witnesses tested positive? You're quite happy to call them all dopers on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, but Armstrong has to test positive before he's guilty?

JAFT.

[Captain]

So other than Code, does anyone else think Lance Armstrong didn't use drugs or are we down to -1- one?

[Josef Svejk]

Code, you're wrong. And it's ok to be wrong. It really is. It happens to everybody. Even much smarter people than you. Who are evidently smarter than you, in part, because they can recognise when they're wrong and not have a crisis over it.

 

You really need to grow up.*

 

* The above could be re-posted on dozens of threads on this and the other forums. Please don't make me repeat myself, Code. Unlike you, I don't enjoy it.

 

Again.

[L19red]

Which ones had positive tests?

 

Just to be sure I went through the USPS team roster and turns out its only Floyd, Tyler, after they left and Levi before he joined and while he was still an amateur. So 3 out of 26 then. Of course the rest of them were juiced up to the eyeballs, but hey unless you've actually been popped on a test then you aren't a doper.

 

So David Millar who was caught with a syringe in his appartment containing traces of EPO is not a doper because he didn't actually fail a test and all the others who confessed they did it because USADA were blackmailing them aren't really dopers.

[Josef Svejk]

The most successful cheat before Cancer Boy speaks out:

 

Miguel Indurain still believes in Lance Armstrong's innocence | Sport | guardian.co.uk

[Josef Svejk]

This part of the story above is Code-relevant:

 

UCI's decision to strip Armstrong of his titles was further reinforced aftrer Armstrong's former team-mate, Steffen Kjaergaard, supported their allegations. "For 15 years I hid a lie," he told a news conference. "I had believed it was best for me and the sport to carry this dark secret to the grave."

 

Kjaergaard, who raced in the 2000 and 2001 Tours, said that the team took care of his doping needs but kept information in a "closed circuit".

 

"When I was a part of the US Postal Service team, everything was organised by the team. I did not need to arrange for a doctor or do anything by myself," he said.

 

"I cannot say if any of my team-mates were using illegal substances," he added. "I can assume that others at U.S Postal were using something that the witness reports said. I have no direct knowledge though."

 

"The reason that I am coming forth now is that I have had a big problem with my own conscience," Kjaergaard admitted.

 

He began using banned substances - primarily erythropoietin (EPO) and cortisone - in 1998, before joining Postal Service.

 

"During this period there was a new EPO test and we had to resort to intravenous micro-dosages to shorten the window where we could be caught," he said. "I also used other illegal substances on the list but not many."

 

Armstrong, who denies wrongdoing, lost his titles after former team mates testified against him and themselves, describing what USADA called the "most sophisticated, professionalised and successful doping program that sport has ever seen".

 

Kjaergaard's admission dented Norway's self-image as a "clean" nation, at the forefront of the fight against doping in sports. He was instantly removed from his job as sports director for the Norwegian Cycling Federation.

 

"This is a sad day for Norwegian cycling, but we wanted to have this out in the light," said federation President Harald Tiedemann Hansen, lamenting a "dark day".

 

"He has admitted to doping and he has nothing to do with the cycling world anymore," Tiedemann Hansen told The Associated Press later. "He has been suspended until his term ends on 31 December and he will not continue in the job."

[stevebaby]

Just to be sure I went through the USPS team roster and turns out its only Floyd, Tyler, after they left and Levi before he joined and while he was still an amateur. So 3 out of 26 then. Of course the rest of them were juiced up to the eyeballs, but hey unless you've actually been popped on a test then you aren't a doper.

 

So David Millar who was caught with a syringe in his appartment containing traces of EPO is not a doper because he didn't actually fail a test and all the others who confessed they did it because USADA were blackmailing them aren't really dopers.

I think we should test Code's piss.

[L19red]

Greg Lemond agrees with Code (a little bit), the men at the top need to go.

Open Letter: LeMond Demands McQuaid's Resignation | Cyclingnews.com

 

Burn it down!

[Clark Westerfeld]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/05/sports/cycling/lance-armstrong-said-to-weigh-admission-of-doping.html?hp&_r=0

[L19red]

just got back from a nice ride to see this story on Cycling News. If it happens its going to be a very expensive confession for him.

 

Any word from Code?

[Lee909]

I wonder how much he makes from book sales,interviews etc after confessing.

[L19red]

I wonder how much he makes from book sales,interviews etc after confessing.

 

not enough to cover the amounts he'll have to pay to the Sunday Times $1.2million and SCA $12 million

And they'll both look like small beer if the Feds go after him for defrauding a government agency. Floyd Landis wants his Qui Tam money.

[JMARKH]

The most successful cheat before Cancer Boy speaks out:

 

Miguel Indurain still believes in Lance Armstrong's innocence | Sport | guardian.co.uk

 

There is no evidence that Indurain took drugs, no one has come out and said he was a cheat.

[L19red]

There is no evidence that Indurain took drugs, no one has come out and said he was a cheat.

 

Banesto named in drug case - More Sports - Sport - The Independent

 

Also he was about twelve and a half stone but went uphill faster than specialist climbers like Robert Millar who was less than 10 stone. Not normal.

There are some reasons to suspect Miguelon doped.

[chrisbonnie]

 

Banesto named in drug case - More Sports - Sport - The Independent

 

Also he was about twelve and a half stone but went uphill faster than specialist climbers like Robert Millar who was less than 10 stone. Not normal.

There are some reasons to suspect Miguelon doped.

 

Indurain is 6'2 and weighed a fairly hefty 85kgs during his tour reign. He was defo doped

[Josef Svejk]

There is no evidence that Indurain took drugs, no one has come out and said he was a cheat.

 

He tested positive for salbutamol in 1994, but was "excused". That, though, was probably the tip of the iceberg.

[Code]

Armstrong has nothing to lose, if he play along now its only so he can take part in competitions since he now is banned from all sports anyway without evidence, you have to play to the crowd sometimes.

[Josef Svejk]

Armstrong has nothing to lose, if he play along now its only so he can take part in competitions since he now is banned from all sports anyway without evidence, you have to play to the crowd sometimes.

 

He's going to "play along" so he can compete at a modest level in a few triathlons.

 

Yes, that's the most plausible explanation.