Joe Allen thread

[RobbieOR]

Andy Cole scored more goals than Robbie Fowler so therefore he is a better striker.

 

Stupid stats = Facts.

[Code]

Andy Cole scored more goals than Robbie Fowler so therefore he is a better striker.

 

Stupid stats = Facts.

 

Wrong Robbie.

 

The only fact there is that Cole scored more than Fowler.

[Tony Moanero]

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[Guest ShoePiss]

punch code, no I don't mean punch him it's just what he has for breakfast. He's a really shit computer from the 1970's

[Lycan]

Code, you remind of a poster called Kaizer who used to post over on RAWK.

[billypilgrimnz]

Then again, Henderson like all last years signings were wrote off before a ball was kicked by certain cunts hoping about on their high horse now.

 

How's that second-rate Chelsea reject striker we bought going to go, you reckon?

 

And our "biff" manager?

[billypilgrimnz]

I'm stating a fact then asking a question, I'm not saying anything.

 

Typically cowardly Code assertion; make snide insinuations about our players, manager etc using numbers, and then when challenged on them, say "I'm not giving any opinion here, just asking a question".

 

You think Henderson is better than Allen. Just come out and say it. Stop being a pussy.

[Il Fenomeno]

Take it you didn't see the Chelsea and arsenal home games.

 

Thinking back he had a good game against Arsenal, so fair enough. And that was Chelsea's second team, so I wouldn't read too much in that game. If you think we'd have beaten Chelsea 4-1 in a normal game then you should think again.

 

But my point still stands, 2 games and a 30 minute spell isn't good enough for a Liverpool player. He could still improve but last season was far from good enough from Henderson, the position he was being played in isn't an excuse, because he played there plenty for Sunderland.

[Code]

Typically cowardly Code assertion; make snide insinuations about our players, manager etc using numbers, and then when challenged on them, say "I'm not giving any opinion here, just asking a question".

 

You think Henderson is better than Allen. Just come out and say it. Stop being a pussy.

 

This makes no sense.

 

Think before you write.

[TheHowieLama]

This makes no sense.

 

Think before you write.

 

I agree, to many words in the question.

 

Who is a better player Henderson or Allen?

[redsoxs]

Code, you remind of a poster called Kaizer who used to post over on RAWK.

 

Any relation?

 

Urban Dictionary: kaiser soze

[billypilgrimnz]

This makes no sense.

 

Think before you write.

 

Again, cowardly evasion of the point.

 

Someone praises Allen over Henderson. You counter with stats about the number of games they have played (?!), with the only possible purpose to disagree with the original post, and then when someone points out that using the total number of games someone has played as evidence of quality is totally ridiculous, you suddenly step back and say "What, I wasn't making any judgements, just posting facts and asking a question"

 

Bullshit. You were doing your typically snide takedown (in this case, I assume Allen is on your hitlist for having the temerity to be favoured by Rodgers, who you plainly really, really, really want to hate, and are searching for as many reasons as possible to do so) using pointless stats and then equivocating like a muthafucker when called on it.

[Code]

Again, cowardly evasion of the point.

 

Point?

 

Are you telling me you had a point?

 

If you did it would have been nice if you did not contradict yourself in your two lines long post, some achievement that actually.

 

Hilarious.

[lifetime fan]

Allen or Henderson Code, which do you think is the better player?

[billypilgrimnz]

Hilarious.

 

Oh, I agree.

[Code]

Allen or Henderson Code, which do you think is the better player?

 

I have never looked closely at Allen so its impossible for me to give you an answer to that question.

 

I have watched him twice against us and probably with half an eye in some other games Swansea have played I have had on at the telly while I've probably been doing other things so I really cant tell, what I can tell though is that he has never catched my eye in any way.

 

People suggesting in this thread that he is superior to Henderson is a bit daft though, where is the logic behind it, Henderson is a great young player with a bright future and is widely recognised as one of the most promising players in England and Europe.

 

He has played in the PL for years, he had more than 100 PL games at the age of 21, he is the U-21 captain, he has got games for England under two different managers, Kenny bought him to Liverpool and Fergsuon wanted him at Utd.

 

If Allen with his 36 games in the PL with almost identical stats to Henderson this season apart from the fact he tackles more but less successfully is supposed to be head and shoulders above him as some people suggest in this thread you have to wonder why clubs have not lined up to take him away from Swansea earlier?

 

Could it be because its actually a load of bollocks and they are both good young players with Henderson a few steps ahead at the moment because of his experience.

[TheHowieLama]

I have never looked closely at Allen so its impossible for me to give you an answer to that question.

 

I have watched him twice against us and probably with half an eye in some other games Swansea have played I have had on at the telly while I've probably been doing other things so I really cant tell, what I can tell though is that he has never catched my eye in any way.

 

People suggesting in this thread that he is superior to Henderson is a bit daft though, where is the logic behind it, Henderson is a great young player with a bright future and is widely recognised as one of the most promising players in England and Europe.

 

He has played in the PL for years, he had more than 100 PL games at the age of 21, he is the U-21 captain, he has got games for England under two different managers, Kenny bought him to Liverpool and Fergsuon wanted him at Utd.

 

If Allen with his 36 games in the PL with almost identical stats to Henderson this season apart from the fact he tackles more but less successfully is supposed to be head and shoulders above him as some people suggest in this thread you have to wonder why clubs have not lined up to take him away from Swansea earlier?

 

Could it be because its actually a load of bollocks and they are both good young players with Henderson a few steps ahead at the moment because of his experience.

 

Good answer here - I happen to agree.

 

Now get to work on that list of CB's.

[Unrighteous]

I, honestly, think that Henderson and Allen are both excellent young players with big futures ahead of them.

[piscinin]

I have never looked closely at Allen so its impossible for me to give you an answer to that question.

 

I have watched him twice against us and probably with half an eye in some other games Swansea have played I have had on at the telly while I've probably been doing other things so I really cant tell, what I can tell though is that he has never catched my eye in any way.

 

People suggesting in this thread that he is superior to Henderson is a bit daft though, where is the logic behind it, Henderson is a great young player with a bright future and is widely recognised as one of the most promising players in England and Europe.

 

He has played in the PL for years, he had more than 100 PL games at the age of 21, he is the U-21 captain, he has got games for England under two different managers, Kenny bought him to Liverpool and Fergsuon wanted him at Utd.

 

If Allen with his 36 games in the PL with almost identical stats to Henderson this season apart from the fact he tackles more but less successfully is supposed to be head and shoulders above him as some people suggest in this thread you have to wonder why clubs have not lined up to take him away from Swansea earlier?

 

Could it be because its actually a load of bollocks and they are both good young players with Henderson a few steps ahead at the moment because of his experience.

 

Allen played much better than henderson last year. I think that's what most people are basing it on. Granted almost all our players under-performed last year and henderson was definitely not in a setup that got the most out of his strengths. But that is the long and short of it.

[G Richards]

Allen would be a good signing. Henderson is a good young player. I can't say which one is better but both would be nice. Add Shelvey to the mix, Lucas coming back, and Suso starting to knock on the door, and there are a lot of options there. Adam and Spearing aren't really needed. Aquilani could possibly be of use but is likely not worth the wages, probably the same as Cole.

 

The way I see it is approximately like this, with six players for three positions:

 

Gerrard (Shelvey)

Lucas (Henderson)

Allen (Suso)

 

In front of them will be another set of three, again broadly speaking, comprising of Suarez, Borini, and, I'm hoping, another very good forward signing. The likes of Downing, Dempsey (if we sign him) and Bellamy would then be back ups for the main three, but we need one more signing who will be a main front three player.

 

Anyway, much that was a much broader post than just Joe Allen, but that's how I see this shaping up.

[Mathewbet1]

Henderson can loads of keepy uppys with a tennis ball, can allen?

[Jairzinho]

Not a huge fan of Allen's hair. Nowhere near as neat as Henderson's. Perhaps it'll improve with more Premier League appearances.

[TheHowieLama]

Agreed - that really is a championship level cut - be nice if he grew about 4 inches and put on 20 lbs as well.

[Jairzinho]

A spray tan and some tribal tattoos wouldn't be a bad idea either. Try and mask the fact he's only got 37 appearances or whatever it is. If he can't play like an elite level Premier League balancing midfielder he might as well at least look like a complete fucking helmet.

[lifetime fan]

Whether you think Allen would be over priced or not he had a lot better season than Henderson.