Glasgow Rangers go in to liquidation

[Wezza]

It's no precedent as different Country and all that, but when Fiorentina were re-born in 2002, they started life in Serie C2 which I think is the Italian fourth tier. They did have the advantage of then being able to jump two divisions due to Caso Catania the following year. Only in Italy!!!

[Carradona]

Build a bonfire...

[janmolby]

Would sky even bother with Scottish football if there is no old firm?

[JohnnyH]

Agree with Skidders and the two Johnny's.

 

That would be a top comedy TV show name.

 

Would sky even bother with Scottish football if there is no old firm?

 

They've got a contract so no choice. If Rangers are still not back in the SPL when the contract comes around for renewal though then it would probably hit the revenues somewhat. But their TV deal isn't worth a huge amount anyway.

[Melchett]

That would be a top comedy TV show name.

 

Oh I dunno, sounds more like a gay porno.

[janmolby]

Their current TV is subject to both participation of Rangers and Celtic:

 

BBC Sport - Rangers key to SPL's new television deal

 

 

granted it is much smaller than the TV deal here, but surely the loss of that will have serious ramification for the 'smaller' teams in the SPL?

[Guest San Don]

As they are being liquidated and will need to reform as a 'new co,' they have to be voted back into the SPL. It looks like other team's fans want their club to vote against this which would result in them applying to join the SFL division 3!

 

If that happens (not voted back into the SPL), I wonder if they'll take the opportunity to join the English football pyramid and join either the conference or apply to the FL League Two?

 

Shocking situation that has been allowed to happen by that shyster whyte.

[Lee909]

Surely if they tried to join the English league other clubs in the UK would do the same.Wouldnt the Scottish FA appeal to UEFA/FIFA.

[Guest San Don]

That would be a top comedy TV show name.

 

 

 

They've got a contract so no choice. If Rangers are still not back in the SPL when the contract comes around for renewal though then it would probably hit the revenues somewhat. But their TV deal isn't worth a huge amount anyway.

 

Think you'll find the sky contract is dependent on rangers and celtic being in the SPL. All this talk about other clubs getting a bigger share if rangers are excluded will not happen.

 

You are right the SPL sky deal isnt big but, it may not even exist if conditions in it allow sky to walk away or pay less if either club isnt in the league.

[Guest San Don]

Surely if they tried to join the English league other clubs in the UK would do the same.Wouldnt the Scottish FA appeal to UEFA/FIFA.

 

The important thing here is if the SPL vote not to allow rangers back into the SPL. They then become effectively a club without a league membership. This puts them into an almost unique position of being able to apply to almost any league in the UK ie even the welsh league.

 

And how the SFA can complain to anyone when they have been instrumental in allowing this situation to develop, I just cannot see them having any chance of winning.

[janmolby]

If I was a Rangers fan and they reformed and where forced to join the 3rd tier of Scottish football I'd definitely want to try and join the English league at some level.

[Lee909]

The SFA are not stopping Rangers playing they are stopping them getting preferential treatment.They will have a league to play in but choose not to.

It's a slippery slope that could lead to the top clubs from Denmark and Belgium playing in the Dutch league,or Ajax deciding to join the Bundesliga for financial reason.

[Guest San Don]

The SFA are not stopping Rangers playing they are stopping them getting preferential treatment.They will have a league to play in but choose not to.

It's a slippery slope that could lead to the top clubs from Denmark and Belgium playing in the Dutch league,or Ajax deciding to join the Bundesliga for financial reason.

 

Semantics. The fact is, Rangers would not be afiliated to any league so would be free to apply to any other league. A number of clubs play in non national leagues ie Cardiff, Swansea, Monaco, Berwick Rangers. The list goes on.

 

Sure the SFA may complain about rangers applying to another league but I dont think UEFA \ FIFA will do anything about it.

 

Dutch, Belgian and Scottish clubs have already had talks about an 'Atlantic' League but nothing has come from it.

[gumps]

Semantics. The fact is, Rangers would not be afiliated to any league so would be free to apply to any other league. A number of clubs play in non national leagues ie Cardiff, Swansea, Monaco, Berwick Rangers. The list goes on.

 

Sure the SFA may complain about rangers applying to another league but I dont think UEFA \ FIFA will do anything about it.

 

Dutch, Belgian and Scottish clubs have already had talks about an 'Atlantic' League but nothing has come from it.

 

No they wouldn't. Football clubs are affiliated in a chain of authority. Club>>League>>national Association>>continental association>>FIFA

 

The clubs you mention are indeed anomalies and their status was allowed to stand because it was established so many years ago, UEFA whoever allowed them to stay the same. The rules about what country a team comes from or plays in have been tightened up in modern times.

 

The precedent has already been set by others clubs that had to reform. They had to start from the bottom. As much as it would be a bitter pill to swallow, the SFA really have no other choice to do the same with Rangers. If they don't then they are opening the doors for other clubs to do the same and there is effectively no sanction.

[Guest San Don]

No they wouldn't. Football clubs are affiliated in a chain of authority. Club>>League>>national Association>>continental association>>FIFA

 

The clubs you mention are indeed anomalies and their status was allowed to stand because it was established so many years ago, UEFA whoever allowed them to stay the same. The rules about what country a team comes from or plays in have been tightened up in modern times.

 

The precedent has already been set by others clubs that had to reform. They had to start from the bottom. As much as it would be a bitter pill to swallow, the SFA really have no other choice to do the same with Rangers. If they don't then they are opening the doors for other clubs t

o do the same and there is effectively no sanction.

 

Rangers are unaffiliated to any league IF the split votes them out.

[WaltonRed]

They've been told ages ago League 2 wont take them

 

They'd have to join below the conference and they'd not do that, they'd lose more in the long term trying to get in the prem which might not happen

 

Wonder who'll take McGregor, Naismith, Broadfoot, Davis

[njackets]

Would love to see Rangers in the English league and Celtic rotting away in the SPL playing your ST Mirrens and Ross Counties!

[Unrighteous]

Semantics. The fact is, Rangers would not be afiliated to any league so would be free to apply to any other league. A number of clubs play in non national leagues ie Cardiff, Swansea, Monaco, Berwick Rangers. The list goes on.

 

Sure the SFA may complain about rangers applying to another league but I dont think UEFA \ FIFA will do anything about it.

 

Dutch, Belgian and Scottish clubs have already had talks about an 'Atlantic' League but nothing has come from it.

 

That'd be pretty ace, to be honest.

[WaltonRed]

It'd be shit Lance, the champions league is monopolised enough let alone letting clubs just leave other clubs behind, they have a duty, if Rangers go to it then St.Mirren should be allowed

 

McCoist is going so it only gets worse for the Gers supporters, sly on him, he's put up with a lot

[gumps]

The important thing here is if the SPL vote not to allow rangers back into the SPL. They then become effectively a club without a league membership. This puts them into an almost unique position of being able to apply to almost any league in the UK ie even the welsh league.

 

 

 

Semantics. The fact is, Rangers would not be afiliated to any league so would be free to apply to any other league. A number of clubs play in non national leagues ie Cardiff, Swansea, Monaco, Berwick Rangers. The list goes on.

 

Sure the SFA may complain about rangers applying to another league but I dont think UEFA \ FIFA will do anything about it.

 

Dutch, Belgian and Scottish clubs have already had talks about an 'Atlantic' League but nothing has come from it.

 

Rangers are unaffiliated to any league IF the split votes them out.

 

What part of a Scottish based club only being allowed to compete IN SCOTLAND do you not understand? Current UEFA rules only allow a club to compete in a league in the country in which they are.

 

As to why the Scottish League would not accept a new Rangers. Why would they not? Technically it would be a new club, but comes with a massive infrastructure and fanbase. They would be foolish to throw away all the money that would still be generated.

 

If you don't agree with my point, at least try and debate it and stick your cheap negs with gibberish comments where the sun doesn't shine.

[WaltonRed]

its ok punishing the club but what about the former board? whyte? surely some sort of frauds occurred?

[JohnnyH]

Their current TV is subject to both participation of Rangers and Celtic:

 

BBC Sport - Rangers key to SPL's new television deal

 

 

granted it is much smaller than the TV deal here, but surely the loss of that will have serious ramification for the 'smaller' teams in the SPL?

 

Think you'll find the sky contract is dependent on rangers and celtic being in the SPL. All this talk about other clubs getting a bigger share if rangers are excluded will not happen.

 

You are right the SPL sky deal isnt big but, it may not even exist if conditions in it allow sky to walk away or pay less if either club isnt in the league.

 

Not according to the SPL players union CEO. He says it will have no impact. The deal is not in danger according to him.

 

We'll see i suppose, but I'd be surprised if the plug was pulled on such a small deal.

[WaltonRed]

Rangers could go down and still be on the tele couldnt they?

[John McClane]

This aint all on Whyte, he only arrived early 2011, the fraud has been going on for near 20 years. David Murray is a sir and the training ground is named after him. From the 1st June players now back up to their contracted salaries (think they took a 50% cut or even more).

 

What should happen is they get relegated to the bottom tier - clubs like Hearts & Aberdeen can fight for basically 2nd spot and euro football. Rangers fans or I believe they will then be "The Rangers" fans can still follow their team and the lower league attendance will rise. Those who think they will just jump up the leagues should reconsider, the top players will leave and they cant sign anyone.

[WaltonRed]

its a fucking shite name that

 

how close did we come? I look at them now and shudder

 

Green reminds me of gillette too