Go fuck yourselves FSG

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I'd be disgusted if they negotiated a naming rights deal for Anfield. They can do what they want with any new stadium but not Anfield.

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Yep.

[Guest San Don]

I recall that too.

 

But with no new stadium and some "monetisation of thr brand" possible I do not see that as a problem for FSG.

 

The most likley solution is selling the naming rights to the stands "the Carling Kop" etc.

 

Course it could be a bad bit of journalism and the writer was talking about naming rights for a new stadium?

 

I read that the other night when it went up and it didnt strike me as a naming rights for Anfield although it could be read any one of 3 ways ie new stadium rights, cash injection to buy players or re name Anfield.

 

Like I said, bad journalism.

[Horus]

Unless they aren't increasing the capacity for now, just selling the naming rights for Anfield for a short term cash boost?

 

Then it would smack of that Granada deal Moores did for a one-off hit of cash. Unless they have put the stadium on hold for 10 years, then no company is going to pay a lot to name a stadium on a yearly basis. Certainly not enough to raise funds to make us competetive over the next 2-3 years.

 

If they're scraping around this season, and it's only their 2nd summer, then what is our outlook over the next 5 years?

[zigackly]

I'd be disgusted if they negotiated a naming rights deal for Anfield. They can do what they want with any new stadium but not Anfield.

 

That's Mike Ashley territory.

 

I completely agree, but no doubt someone will be along any minute to tell us that's hysterical and it would be sound business strategy.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

 

I completely agree, but no doubt someone will be along any minute to tell us that's hysterical and it would be sound business strategy.

Nah, it's your screwdriver rampage that was hysterical. Shame you can see the difference between a constitutional response and war against the owners.

[Ranxerox]

I completely agree, but no doubt someone will be along any minute to tell us that's hysterical and it would be sound business strategy.

 

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[Guest San Don]

I completely agree, but no doubt someone will be along any minute to tell us that's hysterical and it would be sound business strategy.

 

Who are you thinking of, Zig? Anyone whose name begins with an 'X' par chance?

[zigackly]

Who are you thinking of, Zig? Anyone whose name begins with an 'X' par chance?

 

I'm not naming names, but some people seem to think it's acceptable for them to push their views any way they like but not for those who disagree with them, and also incapable of distinguishing genuine intent from rather obvious black humour.

[dennis tooth]

I recall that too.

 

But with no new stadium and some "monetisation of thr brand" possible I do not see that as a problem for FSG.

 

The most likley solution is selling the naming rights to the stands "the Carling Kop" etc.

 

Who let this chump near a keyboard please?

[xerxes]

Who let this chump near a keyboard please?

 

Sad but true Dennis.

 

A new stadium is not on the agenda. We are not redeveloping. Simply rebranding Anfield is high risk, and low value. Selling the naming rights to the stands enables you to retain the stadium name whilst cashing in on the individual stands.

 

No cash outlay- minimum outcry.

[xerxes]

I completely agree, but no doubt someone will be along any minute to tell us that's hysterical and it would be sound business strategy.

See the above post.

 

Rebranding Anfield is unlikely.

 

(N.B. As it requires no money anything is possible.)

[Gym Beglin]

Everyone just shut up and fuck off and watch a film or something, this place is turning into competition to make up the most turgid shite each few hours.

 

Netflix your troubles away.

[WaltonRed]

There is no way they'll rebrand anfield

 

a lot of people would simply say enoughs enough

[xerxes]

There is no way they'll rebrand anfield,a lot of people would simply say enoughs enough

 

I hope you are right.

 

But that season ticket trawl wasn't to fill a new or redeveloped stadium, instead it provides fresh bodies to replace any refuseniks.

[dennis tooth]

Sad but true Dennis.

 

A new stadium is not on the agenda. We are not redeveloping. Simply rebranding Anfield is high risk, and low value. Selling the naming rights to the stands enables you to retain the stadium name whilst cashing in on the individual stands.

 

No cash outlay- minimum outcry.

 

Sorry but thats bollocks. PM me your address would you so I can send someone round to remove that all the keys from that keyboard apart from the spacebar.

Correct use of the spacebar will result in us sending back the keys, peice by peice until you learn to use each key correctly the next one will not be forthcoming. If they rename that stadium on top of every other cunt trick they have pulled thus far, I think you will find the tide will turn upon them.

I think every American owner out there has fucked up every single club they have touched thus far and fleeced every penny they can without investing a flying fucking dollar of their own cash and they need to put their hand in their fucking pocket. Not only do they invest fuck all but they expect big results for it.

In the meantime, if they even think about renaming a fucking seat, they better wake up and apologise. Ergo, they are on fucking thin ice as it is and you are chatting some corporate bellwhiff here and I dont like the smell.

I mean, Retain the stadium name, gee thanks, well thats a relief, its like a burglar coming in to take you telly and telling you it is to allow you to retain your wife's wedding ring. I think these yanks better wise the fuck up if it happens, they will be overthrown and it will be reversed.

Now if they want to build their own little stadium for us to play in (And dont get me wrong, Id rather stay where we are thanks but many would take a new stadium) then they can name it wat the fuck they want, until then, they are not using us as leverage so they dont have to invest. Put our Goose's neck on the chopping block so we can all break out the golden eggs so they can claim its the only way to make an omlette, well whats good for the goose is good for the gander and we'd be turkeys voting for Christmas to even consider it. Its business suicide. Complete wild goose chase.

[Coro]

Perhaps any naming rights deal will be for a new stadium.

 

Mate, i'm a bit of a retard when trying to find previous posts. You posted some comments from a Red Sox fan last night.

 

I'll trade you those for this lovely email from Christian Purslow regarding FSG, ta.

 

"To get it straight, I think we should avoid the natural temptation to jump straight in to the deal with NESV. Whilst they are charming, intelligent and credible their bid is by any standards at the extreme bottom end of the 'right deal' threshold we set for ourselves: it only reduces debt by less than half and is I feel unlikely to yield incremental equity to fund a stadium.

 

"They may say they have money if necessary but I do not take this very seriously. Their eyes only lit up at the idea of other opportunity improvements. An American deal guy simply can't avoid using other people's money if they can.

 

"There is no extra money on the table to enable short-term investment in what remains a squad palpably needing more quality if we are to be definitively top four. New American sport team owners with the senior guy being a hedge fund manager could not be worst [sic] from an image standpoint, which is an issue for us independents. I have not even talked about valuation. I leave that to other members of the board. So what is positive? Answer, they exist. Which is not a lot, but it is not to be underestimated in importance."

[Anubis]

Mate, i'm a bit of a retard when trying to find previous posts. You posted some comments from a Red Sox fan last night.

 

I'll trade you those for this lovely email from Christian Purslow regarding FSG, ta.

 

These are from RedKnight on a thread about the new manager on the MF.

 

 

 

Long one this.

 

Did the old manager resign?

 

After a historic collapse in September last year the Red Sox imploded off the field. All sorts of stories about the pitchers drinking beer in the clubhouse on their off days and eating fried chicken came out and the front office decided that Terry Francona (the manager) wasn't up to the task anymore. This was two time world series winning manager Terry Francona by the way. Francona felt he was being pushed out so he left. Then the Red Sox do what they always do and planted smear stories about Francona in the local papers and it became very bitter.

 

How was the new manager selected? Was he an obvious candidate?

 

GM Theo Epstein also got the fuck out of dodge when it was evident that the Red Sox minor league system wasn't particularly solid anymore, a lot of prospects had been traded elsewhere and what was left wasn't great. So new GM Ben Cherington came in, he's a big sabermetrics guy obviously and everyone thought he'd go and get a new up and comer like Dale Sveum. However club president Larry Luccino (massive dickhead) had other ideas and wanted a trusted old hand. Enter current ESPN analyst Bobby Valentine, he hadn't managed for years but he had a reputation as a real hard ass, something that Luccino felt was needed after the beer and chicken fiasco. He wasn't obvious as in he wasn't wanted by anyone else and he has a reputation for putting his foot in his mouth. Something he's done plenty since taking over.

 

Did he manage a shit team before?

 

He managed most notably the New York Mets but never won a world series with them. He got ejected from a Mets game once and sneaked back into the dugout wearing a false moustache so the umps wouldn't recognise him. He also managed in Japan and he's considered a well traveled thinker of the game. However he's made some basic errors with regards to the pitchers this year.

 

 

This took a long time to type and no one better have stolen my thunder.

 

 

 

I don't think it was justified. Tito was a good guy and some of his players let him down, he certainly didn't deserve to be treated how the Red Sox treated him. The inevitable smear job in the press after was disgusting. Bobby V was not a popular choice, not by a long stretch.

 

At Fenway Park's 100 year celebration in which Tito attended, the crowd chanted "we want Tito" repeatedly throughout a game the Red Sox struggled in.

 

Bobby V isn't respected by some of the players either. Dustin Pedroia basically called him out after Bobby V made a remark about Kevin Youkillis not being as "emotionally invested" in the game. Pedroia in an interview with a load of media personnel said "that kind of stuff may work in Japan but it's not how we do things here" which forced Valentine to apologise for his remarks about Youk later in the day.

 

The Red Sox are currently bottom of the AL East standings and are below .500, which means they've lost more than they've won.

[Code]

Purslow, what a guy.

[Coro]

Cheers mate.

[Anubis]

Purslow, what a guy.

 

He is indeed. On the radio the other day he put Rafa forward for the job as one of only two managers with enough standing in the game to turn the club around. Clearly realises the error of his ways and now sees the light.

[Code]

He is indeed. On the radio the other day he put Rafa forward for the job as one of only two managers with enough standing in the game to turn the club around. Clearly realises the error of his ways and now sees the light.

 

Who was the other one?

[Anubis]

Who was the other one?

 

Capello.

[RobbieOR]

Coro using Purslow to back up his opinion?

 

He's on the wind up. Has to be.

[Coro]

Coro using Purslow to back up his opinion?

 

He's on the wind up. Has to be.

 

Why?

[xerxes]

Sorry but thats bollocks. PM me your address would you so I can send someone round to remove that all the keys from that keyboard apart from the spacebar.

Correct use of the spacebar will result in us sending back the keys, peice by peice until you learn to use each key correctly the next one will not be forthcoming. If they rename that stadium on top of every other cunt trick they have pulled thus far, I think you will find the tide will turn upon them.

I think every American owner out there has fucked up every single club they have touched thus far and fleeced every penny they can without investing a flying fucking dollar of their own cash and they need to put their hand in their fucking pocket. Not only do they invest fuck all but they expect big results for it.

In the meantime, if they even think about renaming a fucking seat, they better wake up and apologise. Ergo, they are on fucking thin ice as it is and you are chatting some corporate bellwhiff here and I dont like the smell.

I mean, Retain the stadium name, gee thanks, well thats a relief, its like a burglar coming in to take you telly and telling you it is to allow you to retain your wife's wedding ring. I think these yanks better wise the fuck up if it happens, they will be overthrown and it will be reversed.

Now if they want to build their own little stadium for us to play in (And dont get me wrong, Id rather stay where we are thanks but many would take a new stadium) then they can name it wat the fuck they want, until then, they are not using us as leverage so they dont have to invest. Put our Goose's neck on the chopping block so we can all break out the golden eggs so they can claim its the only way to make an omlette, well whats good for the goose is good for the gander and we'd be turkeys voting for Christmas to even consider it. Its business suicide. Complete wild goose chase.

 

Dennis, on balance, I decline lessons in layout from you.

 

I don’t think that you understand what you are either agreeing, or disagreeing, with, as we differ on nothing in your post.

 

I offer no prediction on what FSG will do, your guess is as good as mine. We have only ever been an investment. Selling naming rights extracts revenue without further cash in. Investors like that.

 

I share your scepticism of FSG’s competence and intentions. When a business buys a company and has to constantly outsource expertise, because it is not in house, it tells me that they are skimping on the permanent management. It also means that no-one is accountable. Faceless individuals take their fee- and disappear.

 

Like you, I am relaxed about a sympathetic naming rights partner for a new stadium, but resistant to changing the name of Anfield. I am simply pointing out that selling the naming rights to individual stands at Anfield allows the Anfield name to be retained, AND money to be raised.