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17 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

What, you and this Chatra reckons the players are only paid £120m collectively ie £325m less over £200m?

 

No, I said chatra wrote it. It’s pretty clear what I said.
 

Wtf is wrong with you anyway. This is an open forum and you go to pieces at the slightest bit of questioning of anything FSG related. 
 

Looking forward to you activating the multis to back you up on this. 

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1 minute ago, Red74 said:

No, I said chatra wrote it. It’s pretty clear what I said.
 

Wtf is wrong with you anyway. This is an open forum and you go to pieces at the slightest bit of questioning of anything FSG related. 
 

Looking forward to you activating the multis to back you up on this. 

Goodness, sounds like I got a nibble. Nice that you avoided what was a pretty straightforward question though.

 

So, we can deduce this 'ITK Chatra' reckons over £200m of the wage bill, amounting to £325m doesnt go to the players. That means by this 'ITK's reasoning, our players collectively earn around £125m. Think he needs to try harder.

 

Oh, and funny how those accuse me of multiple accounts do what they preach.

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12 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

So why were we skint before covid? We spent nothing after winning the European cup because we "had to pay the bills". In the 2 years we were supposedly skint pre-covid, we made 125m profit and 42m profit. 

 

The road end is 60m, but they're not paying that now, they're borrowing it (and so they should, borrowing is cheap at the moment). Even with revenues down because of covid in the latest accounts (including the end of the season being played in the financial year yet to be released), we still turned over 490m, with a wage bill of 326m.

 

It's a simple question, what's the rest going on? It's not a complex business model. We maintain a small office in town. An even smaller footprint in Bloomsbury. All of our non-playing wage bill including directors is included in the 326m.  We made enormous profits pre pandemic, yet we were skint then. 

 

Suck up the "we're skint" story if you like, I think it's fucking nonsense. 

 

 

Is the Road end only £60 million?  I thought it was more, there you go. 

On the financial reporting revenue was down £120 million for the 19-20 Financial year against the previous one, with a £46 million loss.

For the 20-21 Financial Year it will be worse right, because there were no fans in the stadium at all - so lets be generous and assume a rough £100 million loss over the two years.

The next season 21-22 is also going to have reduced revenue - maybe we break even, but who the hell knows what's going to happen with COVID.

 

Add in the conservative nature of FSG and you can see why they aren't countenancing much outgoings.  

 

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I’ve been more than patient, John. But we are a little over three weeks away from the start of the season, so the time has finally come.

 

Buy somebody, you cunts!

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2 hours ago, Anubis said:

I’ve been more than patient, John. But we are a little over three weeks away from the start of the season, so the time has finally come.

 

Buy somebody, you cunts!

There is fuck all happening anywhere. 

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8 hours ago, Red74 said:

No, I said chatra wrote it. It’s pretty clear what I said.
 

Wtf is wrong with you anyway. This is an open forum and you go to pieces at the slightest bit of questioning of anything FSG related. 
 

Looking forward to you activating the multis to back you up on this. 

Yup. Follow you around like Police.

 

Bottom line is as far as Im concerned theres holes in this squad that still haven't been rectified with 3 weeks to go. That is on the owners and no one else.

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3 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Who gives a shit what other teams do? FFS

Gini Wijnaldum thinks you're a cunt.

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3 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Who gives a shit what other teams do? FFS

 

You do. If none of the other clubs signed anybody/spent any money, would you care so much that our club seemingly doesn't either?

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11 hours ago, aRdja said:

Barry, what do you mean a million miles from skint? Do you not believe the reported $46m loss or do you think we should be able to wear higher loss? Or is your real issue the articles posted in the echo?


The post ignores the previous losses and the forecasts c.£80m impact in the next accounts. 
 

2010 = -£49.3m

2011 = -£40.5m

2012 = Couldn’t find, likely not a positive. 

2013 = -£49.3m

2014 = +£0.9m

2015 = +£60m

2016 = -£19.8m

2017 = +£39m

2018 = +£125m
2019 = +£42m
2020 = -£46m
2021 = Whatever it’s going to be -c.£80m. 
 

Obviously 2015 was the Suarez money & 2018 was the Coutinho money. The Alisson, Fabinho & Keita money came out of the 2019 money.

 

So, you can more or less offset the 2019 & 2020 money against each other & 2021 obviously isn’t looking pretty. 

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1 hour ago, Trumo said:

 

You do. If none of the other clubs signed anybody/spent any money, would you care so much that our club seemingly doesn't either?

As i've just explained, as long as the boss has the things he needs for the season so he can achieve the best results he can, I'm fine. The other teams have got nothing to do with us, although yeah when they strengthen it makes things a bit more challenging.

 

Jurgen is a midfielder and MAYBE an attacker light going into the season. Theres still too many injury prone players we can't rely on and a lot of dead wood he just doesn't fancy floating about the squad. The fullback cover has always been an issue but at least he can give that greek lad a try with a pre season under him.

 

The other major issue we have is unlocking deep lying packed defences, which seems to be our achllies heel when we come up against well organised opponents.

 

We've also lost that aura of invincibility we had after last years debacle between Jan and April.

 

Theres a world of difference between making do and having the tools you need to achieve your goals, as we saw last year. FSG have a shit ton of work to do in the next few seasons, because in my opinion they've not managed the ins and outs of the squad well, relying too much on cashing in on a big sale that just won't happen now.

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1 hour ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Yup. Follow you around like Police.

 

Bottom line is as far as Im concerned theres holes in this squad that still haven't been rectified with 3 weeks to go. That is on the owners and no one else.


You don’t think the squad as it currently is isn’t good enough to beat Norwich and Burnley?

 

As long as we don’t get injuries, it’s good enough to beat Chelsea as well. 
 

We 100% need a midfielder, attacker and, IMO, a right back before the window closes, the sooner we buy these players the better for all, but to be panicking already is fairly childish.  

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1 hour ago, Scott_M said:


You don’t think the squad as it currently is isn’t good enough to beat Norwich and Burnley?

 

As long as we don’t get injuries, it’s good enough to beat Chelsea as well. 
 

We 100% need a midfielder, attacker and, IMO, a right back before the window closes, the sooner we buy these players the better for all, but to be panicking already is fairly childish.  

We have 2 players coming back form long term injuries and we don't know their level yet, 3 if you count Matip who will pick up injuries.

 

Milner not getting any younger.  Hendo will pick up injuries, Keita, Ox etc - Its fair to say that we will have lots of players out.  

 

Its fine to sell the dead wood, as long as we replace them 

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2 hours ago, Scott_M said:


You don’t think the squad as it currently is isn’t good enough to beat Norwich and Burnley?

 

As long as we don’t get injuries, it’s good enough to beat Chelsea as well. 
 

We 100% need a midfielder, attacker and, IMO, a right back before the window closes, the sooner we buy these players the better for all, but to be panicking already is fairly childish.  

Again who is panicking? Im not lying awake at night.

 

The only thing i do dread is running into another block of form like last winter, it was an horrendous watch, made even more unbearable by seeing our boss dumbstruck and helpless.

 

If everyone could stay fit, if we could rely on Keita and Ox and Matip to contribute and for Firmino to rediscover his samba, I'd be much happier. But we've seen over the last few years unless Jurgen can keep his best eleven completely fit and free from injury and by sacrificing a few lesser cup comps, we will struggle a bit.

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1 hour ago, Marko121 said:

We have 2 players coming back form long term injuries and we don't know their level yet, 3 if you count Matip who will pick up injuries.

 

Milner not getting any younger.  Hendo will pick up injuries, Keita, Ox etc - Its fair to say that we will have lots of players out.  

 

Its fine to sell the dead wood, as long as we replace them 


In the first 3 games of the season? We’d be horrifically unlucky.

 

Not doubting something needs doing before the window closes though. 

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1 minute ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Again who is panicking? Im not lying awake at night.


You make our like their panicking based on the continuous whinging you do in every thread.

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1 minute ago, BeefStroganoff said:

And you give the impression you couldn't care less how we fare over a season. So what?


I quite clearly do, hence why I’ve repeatedly said we need reinforcements. I’m just not criticising every when we have 5 weeks to sort it. 

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Although bringing in players after the season has started isn't necessarily a huge deal, I don't think it helps foreign players settle in as easily or as quickly as if they'd had a pre-season on the training ground.

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