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On 16/04/2021 at 19:18, Scott_M said:


I’m not the one questioning highly reputable publications. 
 

Direct quotes...

 

1) I wonder where Forbes picked this number.

 

2)  who the appraiser actually was.


Responses...

 

1) Picked? Like “picked from thin air”? Given they post numerous types of these articles every year, I’d assume, they’ve have done some sort of thorough analysis to come to that conclusion. 
 

2) Appraiser? Sounds like your questioning their integrity. Again, because the publication’s integrity is made up of these type of articles, I’d have said somebody would have checked these with the finest of tooth combs before publishing. 

 

I’ve offered a simple explanation as to why figures might differ. You’ve just insulted me. 
 

Whether I look bad in the process or not, I don’t care, but I hope the forum can finally start seeing through the shite you continually post.

 

Negative opinion passed off as fact, challenged, belittle credible source & make some more stuff up, challenged again, try and change the subject going back years hoping posters don’t remember that far back, challenged again, make up childish insults (Gobble / Stalker). Rinse and repeat.

 

Also see “‘We’re too lazy to negotiate”, “Nike didn’t make enough shirts”, “Sell to buy”, “Linda is a whore”, “FSG fiddle accounts” and other nonsensical accusations with no factual back up. 

 

Oh, and the poster who brings every single thread back to Anti-FSG, the irony of accusing me of clogging up the forum is outstanding. 

 

On 02/11/2009 at 00:01, Mac4 said:

 

 

of course you would -- you pathetic cunt -- but i wont let you get off that easy - i am going to persecute you - you twat - you will never forget the day you crossed me

 

On 02/11/2009 at 01:51, Mac4 said:

 

 

I WILL HUNT THE CUNTS DOWN -- I WILL NEVER TIRE OF THE CHASE,,,,,,,,

 

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27 minutes ago, Aventus said:

Time to dust off the olde standards corrupted shirt I reckon, I'll draw the extra star on in tipp-ex. 

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The cunts will probably try sue you for copyright infringement 

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1 hour ago, Scott_M said:


I don’t like it either, but what’s the alternative? Raise £1.6bn to buy 51% of the club. Unfortunately, it’s not gonna happen.

 

If Kenyon was still at the mancs, Bates at Chelsea, Dein at Arsenal & Sugar at Spurs, does anybody think there would be a different outcome to this? 
 

I don’t want this to happen (and i genuinely don’t think it will), ideally I don’t want us to be part of it, but if everybody else is joining, I’d rather we be part of it than not.

I'd rather just fuck it all off than be a part of this shite. Which is what i'll do if it happens.

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2 hours ago, Aventus said:

The problem is that the only buyers would be foreign billionaire businessmen with no ties to the club, who would want a return on their investment, probably by pushing for shit like European super leagues etc. 

 

It's shit, but we're either stuck with them, or stuck with somebody the same or worse.

there is no way through this. the only reason we got rid of the last lot was they were skint, we had debt to refinance, there was a global economic collapse and nobody would loan them the money to continue when you combined the reputational risk with the fan opposition with the econmic risk that they probably wouldn't pay it back. borrowing money was expensive back then. 

2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Don't say I didn't warn you not to trust them at the outset. The divide and conquer tactics to try and isolate fan groups and advocates. The whole Liverbird shite. Ticket prices. Threats over the Anfield Rd end. I feel like Bruce Willis in Die Hard, where he throws a dead terrorist out the window onto the cop car below and shouts "welcome to the party, pal."

spot on that. the moment they did their walk around of the opposition groups to H&G and then set up that absolute fucking farce fans committee, that was when it was clear and obvious we'd been played and were fucked. 

11 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

The cunts will probably try sue you for copyright infringement 

it's not like they haven't done it before. 

10 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I'd rather just fuck it all off than be a part of this shite. Which is what i'll do if it happens.

that's the only option. the only way through this is to have a wimbledon style phoenix club from the bottom - but honestly, do we really think we've got a fan base with the heart to get one of those going? i don't think so. 

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2 hours ago, Aventus said:

Time to dust off the olde standards corrupted shirt I reckon, I'll draw the extra star on in tipp-ex. 

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Still got mine as well.

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3 hours ago, Scott_M said:

I don’t like it either, but what’s the alternative? Raise £1.6bn to buy 51% of the club. Unfortunately, it’s not gonna happen.

They wouldn't sell 51% of the club, especially if the objective was to do commercially counter-intuitive things that would make their remaining 49% worth less. So fans would have to raise billions to buy the club, then be happy with the club being financially left behind by the super-clubs. I haven't read too much into this, I haven't seen the reason why a few are saying they've killed the club or how it's now imperative that they're overthrown - or whatever else - but I assume they're the ring leaders in all of this? If not, it would be an interesting expectation for any owner of a current big club to miss the boat on a super league. It would likely shrink the value of the club by a bloody lot, and relegate the club to being second tier in status. Like I say, I've not really seen the proposals in any depth. What I do know is that football seems rotten to the core and has been for a long time. 

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Just now, lifetime fan said:


It isn’t, and never should have been a defence of them. 

It’s not a defence, it’s just the reality of the considerations that need to be made when calling for them to be fucked off. The reality might well suck arseholes, but who could we possibly get to buy the club for a cool three or four billion - or whatever insane number it would take - and then miss the gravy train of a super league when the big clubs. On the face of it it seems that the expectation is for the club or a new owner to happily sit by and become a second tier football club, devalue itself, and drift into irrelevance on principle. 
 

I’m genuinely not sure how to react to the news. I’ve heard a lot of people state how shit it is and how it’s the end of football and they’re all greedy cunts. Nobody has really stated why it’s the end of football, not just a different shade of the shit that’s there now. The closed loop is still a closed loop. Maybe it’ll be completely shit, maybe it will be the end of football. I’m certainly not taking the words of Boris or the money men who currently control football though. 
 

 

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6 minutes ago, Bad Red Bull said:

Got this as a forward... There will be a riot if Klopp walks away

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What a bizarre piece of fanfiction. @_Sadio_Escobar probably wanks to the idea Klopp would quit and then he'd use his tears to wank some more if it was to happen. 

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3 minutes ago, Numero said:

It’s not a defence, it’s just the reality of the considerations that need to be made when calling for them to be fucked off. The reality might well suck arseholes, but who could we possibly get to buy the club for a cool three or four billion - or whatever insane number it would take - and then miss the gravy train of a super league when the big clubs. On the face of it it seems that the expectation is for the club or a new owner to happily sit by and become a second tier football club, devalue itself, and drift into irrelevance on principle. 
 

I’m genuinely not sure how to react to the news. I’ve heard a lot of people state how shit it is and how it’s the end of football and they’re all greedy cunts. Nobody has really stated why it’s the end of football, not just a different shade of the shit that’s there now. The closed loop is still a closed loop. Maybe it’ll be completely shit, maybe it will be the end of football. I’m certainly not taking the words of Boris or the money men who currently control football though. 
 

 


It’s fucked already, you won’t have me try to argue otherwise. 
 

But ‘they could be worse’ has been used as a defence, time and time again. 

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5 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Does anyone actually think Klopp wasn't aware this was going on?

It wouldn't exactly be surprising if he didn't. 

 

This is the biggest shake up to European football. The organisers have had to take out all sorts of legal advice and put relevant legal procedures in place. 

 

I'd imagine everyone would have had their cards close to their chests. 

 

Who knows though. 

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5 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

I still saw posts on Twitter last night saying "we would be nowhere if they hadn't have bought us"

till this mate i gave them the benefit of the doubt but now fuck em they dont give a shit about the club or the fans

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The “game” has been a business for decades now, even back in the sixties we had business people taking over and beginning to run things, Moore’s at Everton, Edwards at United etc. etc. and likely before then.

So is this the same, but on a bigger scale? Maybe that’s too simple an analogy.

Of course there’s massive hypocrisy at work from those, happy to take financial advantage of changes in the past, who stand to see their particular gravy train run out of steam, such is football these days.

Ultimately, it’s the supporter who has to suffer the most. 
Their choice is simple but not easy, do you carry on and support your club or bin it all off?
For having put supporters in that position, ALL those running the industry (it isn’t a sport now) be they agents, owners, associations, officials, media or whoever, should be disgusted they have presided over this development and previous developments that have led here.

They should be disgusted but I doubt they will be.

Personally, I hope this is a game of brinkmanship and it won’t go as far as a breakaway competition, but I’m not going to hold my breath.

 

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1 hour ago, 3 Stacks said:

Does anyone actually think Klopp wasn't aware this was going on?

 

1 hour ago, John102 said:

It wouldn't exactly be surprising if he didn't. 

 

He's just said in pre match that he only found out about it yesterday. 

 

FSG are all over it if something good happens, but any hint of trouble or something that might kick up a stink they are nowhere to be seen and the players and manager are cut adrift and left to deal with the shit. 

 

They are a cowardly bunch of cunts and now are somehow managing to actually stand out as even bigger cunts in a sport which is more than well stocked in total cunts. 

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1 hour ago, andyj said:

till this mate i gave them the benefit of the doubt but now fuck em they dont give a shit about the club or the fans

Okay, fair enough, but what is it about this that has turned you against them? Also, what would you have done if you were an owner, would you have said no and then let the other teams do it by themselves? That’s a genuine question to anyone who wants to answer it. With all the ramifications that come with it, you’d have said no, while others took the spot at the top table? 
 

 

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According to many on here we were too late to turn commercial when the Premier League was founded and was run as a corner shop. Now they don’t want to get with this new thing. Isn’t this doing the same? 

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