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47 minutes ago, rb14 said:

See I always struggle with that. I try to avoid ascribing anything positive ("honest and true") with that repellent thug. 

 

Getting back to FSG and furloughing, I utterly despair. But I'm not in the slightest bit surprised. Capitalism laid bare. 

 

I wasn't being positive.  I was being factual.  "Honest and true" was modified by "out-and-out cunt".

 

I'm comfortable with that contention.

 

 

 

 

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55 minutes ago, skaro said:

 

I wasn't being positive.  I was being factual.  "Honest and true" was modified by "out-and-out cunt".

 

I get the modifier. It's just that it's a positive modifier. Can we agree on "She didn't lie about being an out and out cunt"? I know it's a bit of a double-negative like. 

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41 minutes ago, rb14 said:

I get the modifier. It's just that it's a positive modifier. Can we agree on "She didn't lie about being an out and out cunt"? I know it's a bit of a double-negative like. 

 

Yeah, I'm fine with that.

 

 

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I think the key here is the city was in decline for a number of reasons. However a governments job is not to further that decline, but to try and arrest it. Thatcher's actions spoke for themselves and showed what an utterly contemptible cunt she was. 

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2 hours ago, Barry Wom said:

I think the key here is the city was in decline for a number of reasons. However a governments job is not to further that decline, but to try and arrest it. Thatcher's actions spoke for themselves and showed what an utterly contemptible cunt she was. 

 

When I arrived in the city in October 1989, it was a bit of ghost town. Boarded up buildings and businesses, the norm.

Apart from the footy- and little did I know that was in decline too - it was reasonably depressing.

Taking The Beatles "Magical History Tour" only furthered the feeling of good days being behind you.

In the meantime, during the week, I lived and worked in London in advertising - with Tories for the most part.  Lunch at Kettner's and so on.

In Australia of course, I didn't get to see the snide "local" side of Thatcher.... we just got the "foreign" headlines.

The Falklands etc... her "heroics".  Grand relationship with Reagan blah blah.

She was a "Statesman" to an outsider like me.

I think the poll tax changed my perception of all that.

In my room above a pub in Acton, I listened to and watched coverage of the riots and bolllocks in Central London and realised this was a person, a woman, who really didn't give a fuck about the consequences of her policies and so-called "convictions".

I remember her being ousted in 1990, and I experienced corporate London's sentimentality about that as it unfolded.

But yeah, I was young and unaffected by her actions generally.

TLW, over the years, has given me a starker picture of her heartlessness.

At the end of the day, she was a politician - just another cunt in a cavalcade of cunts - and I don't want to give her too much "credit" in a totally dishonourable profession... even "heroes" like JFK did utter shite things... death, destruction, the works.

But, I see Liverpool's point about her specific cuntery to it, and the especial pointedness of its justified contempt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Has anybody been paid through this scheme yet? If its anything like trying to claim unemployment benefit then you are going to be very old before you get any cash from it. In fact I reckon thats where they'll take the cash from.

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23 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Has anybody been paid through this scheme yet? If its anything like trying to claim unemployment benefit then you are going to be very old before you get any cash from it. In fact I reckon thats where they'll take the cash from.

Don't think it actually pays out till June does it?

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23 hours ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Has anybody been paid through this scheme yet? If its anything like trying to claim unemployment benefit then you are going to be very old before you get any cash from it. In fact I reckon thats where they'll take the cash from.

 

6 minutes ago, Barry Wom said:

Don't think it actually pays out till June does it?

End of April they are saying the online portal to claim will be open, so make of that what you will

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June is for the self-employed. With employees, I believe the employer pays wages then claims back 80% from the govt. 

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On 11/04/2020 at 10:07, skaro said:

 

When I arrived in the city in October 1989, it was a bit of ghost town. Boarded up buildings and businesses, the norm.

Apart from the footy- and little did I know that was in decline too - it was reasonably depressing.

Taking The Beatles "Magical History Tour" only furthered the feeling of good days being behind you.

In the meantime, during the week, I lived and worked in London in advertising - with Tories for the most part.  Lunch at Kettner's and so on.

In Australia of course, I didn't get to see the snide "local" side of Thatcher.... we just got the "foreign" headlines.

The Falklands etc... her "heroics".  Grand relationship with Reagan blah blah.

She was a "Statesman" to an outsider like me.

I think the poll tax changed my perception of all that.

In my room above a pub in Acton, I listened to and watched coverage of the riots and bolllocks in Central London and realised this was a person, a woman, who really didn't give a fuck about the consequences of her policies and so-called "convictions".

I remember her being ousted in 1990, and I experienced corporate London's sentimentality about that as it unfolded.

But yeah, I was young and unaffected by her actions generally.

TLW, over the years, has given me a starker picture of her heartlessness.

At the end of the day, she was a politician - just another cunt in a cavalcade of cunts - and I don't want to give her too much "credit" in a totally dishonourable profession... even "heroes" like JFK did utter shite things... death, destruction, the works.

But, I see Liverpool's point about her specific cuntery to it, and the especial pointedness of its justified contempt.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Living through it is one thing, I don't think it trumps a Norwegian A Level though.

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3 minutes ago, General Dryness said:

Living through it is one thing, I don't think it trumps a Norwegian A Level though.

 

Yeah, well my primary school diploma only helped to a certain extent.

 

 

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On 09/04/2020 at 14:11, redheart said:

Liverpool began to decline in the 70s for one simple reason. It was on the wrong side of the country.

 

Joining the EU meant most of our trade was done with Europe and Liverpool was not a viable port for that.

Containerisation was also a big factor in Merseyside's economic decline. 

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58 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Containerisation was also a big factor in Merseyside's economic decline. 

Code will be along soon to tell you that Maersk had fuck all to do with it 

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13 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Containerisation was also a big factor in Merseyside's economic decline. 

It was, I remember as a van lad for Scotts we had the best round to the ships, pubs, canteens etc in 76 and there was loads of ships, and wagons, on the docks. My mate was on Harrison Line and there was always a few of them in, then I remember they had a Container ship, I think it was called The Advisor and that seemed to be the start, obviously the was the Seaforth Container Base, but it just seemed around that time that it was the beginning of the end for the traditional ships, Dockers and all related business, sad. 

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17 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Code will be along soon to tell you that Maersk had fuck all to do with it 


My point has been proven right, I’ve got nothing more to add.

 

I said so days ago.

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22 minutes ago, Code said:


My point has been proven right, I’ve got nothing more to add.

 

I said so days ago.

Which point? 

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2 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

Fucking hell, are people still wanking themselves blind over this? Even Fowler has said they corrected the error so move on.

I think the problem is lack of things to move on to. People need a subject to call strangers a cunt about on the internet. It warms the heart at these difficult times.

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Just now, Reckoner said:

I think the problem is lack of things to move on to. People need a subject to call strangers a cunt about on the internet. It warms the heart at these difficult times.

Yeah, you're probably right there, bud. I miss the footie!

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Watford are set to become the third Premier League club to agree wage deferrals with their first team squad.

Earlier this month, Southampton and West Ham confirmed their players would defer part of their salaries because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Arsenal players are set to take a 12.5% pay cut while Chelsea's will reportedly agree to a 10% decrease in salary.

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12 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Watford are set to become the third Premier League club to agree wage deferrals with their first team squad.

Earlier this month, Southampton and West Ham confirmed their players would defer part of their salaries because of the coronavirus pandemic.

Arsenal players are set to take a 12.5% pay cut while Chelsea's will reportedly agree to a 10% decrease in salary.

Doesn't this just expose how badly clubs are run if they cant pay their playing staff during a crisis? Or at the very least how much of their turnover is going back out as wages? 

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5 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

Doesn't this just expose how badly clubs are run if they cant pay their playing staff during a crisis? Or at the very least how much of their turnover is going back out as wages? 

I am not sure it is a sign they can't - except for Arsenal - they can't.

 

Three of those clubs were deferring payments, not wage cuts, so that would certainly seem to be cashflow.

 

 

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