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1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

I've actually thought that too regarding the noticable drop off. The front 3 have barely had a rest since 2018. They must join up with their national teams completely knackered. There was a tweet of bad news Pearce today basically saying Fabinho doesn't want to play centre back long term incase the club get too comfortable with him there. Basically to avoid spending the money. 

 

I'm sure the Wijnaldum contract saga has been noted by them. Wijnaldum may want to leave but the clubs stance of offering less than he expected may have the others thinking that they aren't likely to get a better contract in the future.

 

The lack of competition has made a few if them too comfy as well. No matter how shit some of them play they will always be on the team sheet because there's no one there to push them.

 

Also, the club policy of buying youngsters who won't be ready for a few years whikst completely ignoring the centre back issue is making them think that there won't be any first team squad building for a while and running the existing squad into the ground.

I was listening to a BBC podcast where they explained away Trents shit form due to playing 150 games without a break. You have just said something similar for the front 3, they all had 3 or 4 months without playing over the summer.

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6 hours ago, Supremolad said:

 

Going by that tweet, we basically went into this season with one super reliable CB, one reasonably reliable CB who had had a couple long term injuries, one CB made of crisps, one midfielder capable of playing CB and one kid called Billy the Kid. 

 

Man City on the other hand, saw the shambles that occured when they tried doing similar shite in defence last season. And promptly brought in two centerbacks for this season. Clean sheets galore and now 7 points ahead of us.

They were in danger of losing their manager. That’s the difference. 

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7 hours ago, Supremolad said:

Man City on the other hand, saw the shambles that occured when they tried doing similar shite in defence last season. And promptly brought in two centerbacks for this season. Clean sheets galore and now 7 points ahead of us.

They are using one they took off the junk pile from last season.

 

Does Ake even get on the bench?

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42 minutes ago, aRdja said:

How do you mean? The ban would’ve been for the CL only right?

It would have stopped them getting certain players in and potentially meant that the likes of Sterling and De Bruyne moved on.

 

City will win it either this year or next, just to make even more of a mockery of the decision to overturn the ban.

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2 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

They are using one they took off the junk pile from last season.

 

Does Ake even get on the bench?

 

Even their pile of junk is made of 50 million pound centre backs.

 

Over 200 million on four centre backs and about the same on full backs as well. 

 

FSG will never be able to compete with that.

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13 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

I've said for months we need a centre back in January, as has everyone else. FSG not rectifying this problem now is really poor from them. But the problem has been born from a fair bit of bad luck but also from a specific strategy we employed when building this squad, that I'm tired of repeating but somehow loads of people keep ignoring.

 

So, I think it's fair to ask questions about what we're going to do. Likely, we won't do anything this month and we'll buy a new centre back that can rival Matip and Gomez this summer. And if they all don't get injured at the same time next season, it will probably be fine.

Your talking out of your arse a bit though aren't you? The reason we have an extra midfielder is because we bought Thiago

 

We bought Thiago as Ginis replacement a year early probably because he would have gone elsewhere if we didn't and Klopp decided that's who he wanted. 

 

Why do we have to replace Wijnaldum? Because FSG won't pay what he's worth. 

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As owners, I don't have a huge issue with them. They appointed Klopp and we've won the league and the European Cup, and with a bit of luck we could have doubled up on both. By accident or design, they've kept the 'old' Anfield too, which is a major plus in my book.

 

Outside of fairy tales, the only likely upgrade in terms of resources available would be a Manchester City-style takeover and the various issues that go with that. No thanks. 

 

Still, it's foolish in the extreme that they haven't addressed the centre-half issue in this window. It didn't have to cost a fortune if we're really holding out for our first target in the summer, even a Klavan-level signing would have given us a vastly better chance of competing for the title. 

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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-taking-130m-gamble-19709889

 

Liverpool do have the funds to make a January transfer addition this month - with their reluctance to do so more down to a strategic, calculated gamble than having no money available to spend.

 

That is what football finance expert Kieran Maguire has outlined amidst scrutiny over the decision by Liverpool, their recruitment team and FSG to put off spending on new players until the summer transfer window, despite their injury crisis.

 

"Liverpool do have the ability to go out and buy a player - that, for me, there is no doubt," Maguire told the ECHO on a Blood Red podcast to be released on Saturday, January 30.

 

"They have been hit by Covid, as have every other club, but if we look at the European market, transfer prices have fallen by a third across UEFA’s borders.

 

"The driving issue is that Jurgen Klopp will look at the solving it in a few month’s time and if you are spending £40-50m on a central defender, then it could be a case of trying to squeeze four players into three positions, or three into two, with can lead to dissatisfaction."

 

Failing to secure a signing, though, this month, in the eyes of many Liverpool supporters and commentators, could put at risk their ability to challenge at the top end of the Premier League and go far in the Champions League, having already exited the FA Cup.

 

For a club like Liverpool, getting back into Europe's top competition next season for just the fifth consecutive campaign is an absolute must, but they have lost ground in that race in recent weeks, with a tricky run of fixtures to come.

 

"Qualifying for the Champions League [this season] is far more of a critical issue [for Liverpool] than winning the Premier League," Maguire explained.

 

"We saw in 2019 when they won it, it was worth more than £100m in TV money and they had seven home games at Anfield which is another £30m, plus bonuses from sponsors.

 

"Top four is essential for a club like Liverpool and that will be the focus - Klopp has hinted at that in some of his recent interviews."

 

Liverpool have certainly not given up hope of retaining their Premier League crown, though they do find themselves seven points behind Manchester City, who are threatening to pull away at the summit.

 

Getting back into the Champions League though - and securing that £130m that it could bring them next season - is the absolute minimum requirement.

 

As much as Maguire does not believe that Liverpool cannot spend to help that happen, it must also be pointed out that the Reds' long-term strategy of only purchasing the perfect players is one that has paid off in recent years.

 

"Investing in players always has benefits in the sense it can reinvigorate the squad but it comes with financial costs," Maguire concluded.

 

"There are players who are surplus to requirements elsewhere at the moment and loan signings would work. But you have to ask why those players are not getting first-team football elsewhere?

 

"If they are not getting minutes around Europe or the Premier League, would they actually be an upgrade as far as Liverpool are concerned?

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3 hours ago, Daisy said:

Your talking out of your arse a bit though aren't you? The reason we have an extra midfielder is because we bought Thiago

 

We bought Thiago as Ginis replacement a year early probably because he would have gone elsewhere if we didn't and Klopp decided that's who he wanted. 

 

Why do we have to replace Wijnaldum? Because FSG won't pay what he's worth. 

No, we've had a bigger than usual amount of depth in midfield for years. 

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If someone told me when they were about to buy us that we would be in the position we are in right now with a title and a champions league in the bag I'd be fucking delighted. 

 

A centre-half would have been great but a board that won't be held over a barrel and dry-bummed is also great. It's not like other clubs have been splashing the cash left right and central. Frustrating yes, worthy of threads calling for their heads and a gaggle of cry-arse reactions like on here? No. Absolutely fucking not. Some heads need screwing back on. 

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3 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fsg-liverpool-taking-130m-gamble-19709889

 

Liverpool do have the funds to make a January transfer addition this month - with their reluctance to do so more down to a strategic, calculated gamble than having no money available to spend.

 

That is what football finance expert Kieran Maguire has outlined amidst scrutiny over the decision by Liverpool, their recruitment team and FSG to put off spending on new players until the summer transfer window, despite their injury crisis.

 

"Liverpool do have the ability to go out and buy a player - that, for me, there is no doubt," Maguire told the ECHO on a Blood Red podcast to be released on Saturday, January 30.

 

"They have been hit by Covid, as have every other club, but if we look at the European market, transfer prices have fallen by a third across UEFA’s borders.

 

"The driving issue is that Jurgen Klopp will look at the solving it in a few month’s time and if you are spending £40-50m on a central defender, then it could be a case of trying to squeeze four players into three positions, or three into two, with can lead to dissatisfaction."

 

Failing to secure a signing, though, this month, in the eyes of many Liverpool supporters and commentators, could put at risk their ability to challenge at the top end of the Premier League and go far in the Champions League, having already exited the FA Cup.

 

For a club like Liverpool, getting back into Europe's top competition next season for just the fifth consecutive campaign is an absolute must, but they have lost ground in that race in recent weeks, with a tricky run of fixtures to come.

 

"Qualifying for the Champions League [this season] is far more of a critical issue [for Liverpool] than winning the Premier League," Maguire explained.

 

"We saw in 2019 when they won it, it was worth more than £100m in TV money and they had seven home games at Anfield which is another £30m, plus bonuses from sponsors.

 

"Top four is essential for a club like Liverpool and that will be the focus - Klopp has hinted at that in some of his recent interviews."

 

Liverpool have certainly not given up hope of retaining their Premier League crown, though they do find themselves seven points behind Manchester City, who are threatening to pull away at the summit.

 

Getting back into the Champions League though - and securing that £130m that it could bring them next season - is the absolute minimum requirement.

 

As much as Maguire does not believe that Liverpool cannot spend to help that happen, it must also be pointed out that the Reds' long-term strategy of only purchasing the perfect players is one that has paid off in recent years.

 

"Investing in players always has benefits in the sense it can reinvigorate the squad but it comes with financial costs," Maguire concluded.

 

"There are players who are surplus to requirements elsewhere at the moment and loan signings would work. But you have to ask why those players are not getting first-team football elsewhere?

 

"If they are not getting minutes around Europe or the Premier League, would they actually be an upgrade as far as Liverpool are concerned?

An upgrade on Rhys Williams or Nat Phillips?

 

Of course they frigging would be - unless we went shopping in League 1.

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The Echo is just absolute, total shite these days. Bascombe and Barrett used to frequently get the jump on everyone, and it wasn't just about having access it was having contacts - you know - that thing journos have always relied on. Now it's just some half-arsed podcasty shite churned out in the afternoon.

 

"So what about them reds hey. Hmmm. To buy or not to buy. Isn't it? Mbappe though, what a player." 

 

They ask for donations now too, amazing stuff. 

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2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

It's not like other clubs have been splashing the cash left right and central. Frustrating yes, worthy of threads calling for their heads and a gaggle of cry-arse reactions like on here? No. Absolutely fucking not. Some heads need screwing back on. 

 

What about a compromise and we call them "frustrating cunts"?

 

 

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The argument about 'trying to squeeze 3 players into 2 positions' etc does not hold water with me.

 

You have to have cover and depth.

 

Lovren was our 4th choice centre half last season and played loads.

 

This season (ok it is extreme this season) but we must have used fuck knows how many people back there.

 

Surely you have your 'first choice' 2 then 2 players who are just below them but pushing and ready for when needed, without a massive drop off.....we are looking at 60 plus games a season hopefully, there is time for all to play.

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Just now, skaro said:

 

Which about explains the shite that gets served up these days.

 

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10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

In these uncertain times, independent journalism is more important than ever, please help support our vital work. 

 

A quick peruse of the website today reveals the following headlines:

 

"Tesco's gorgeous pyjamas that look like Victoria's Secret." 

 

"Holly Willoughby gets Ofcom complaints over plunging Dancing on Ice gown."

 

"man seen jogging in red speedos in Sefton park is a doctor" 

 

They're like American waitresses - they live on gratuities.  

And as journos, they make good American waitresses.

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

If someone told me when they were about to buy us that we would be in the position we are in right now with a title and a champions league in the bag I'd be fucking delighted. 

 

A centre-half would have been great but a board that won't be held over a barrel and dry-bummed is also great. It's not like other clubs have been splashing the cash left right and central. Frustrating yes, worthy of threads calling for their heads and a gaggle of cry-arse reactions like on here? No. Absolutely fucking not. Some heads need screwing back on. 

Can you please take your positive outlook, fact based argument and shove it up your arse? 

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43 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

In these uncertain times, independent journalism is more important than ever, please help support our vital work. 

 

A quick peruse of the website today reveals the following headlines:

 

"Tesco's gorgeous pyjamas that look like Victoria's Secret." 

 

"Holly Willoughby gets Ofcom complaints over plunging Dancing on Ice gown."

 

"man seen jogging in red speedos in Sefton park is a doctor" 

 

Every one of those headlines could be tweaked for better clickbait.

 

"Holly Willoughby's gorgeous pyjamas that look like Speedos." 

 

"Dancing On Ice gets Ofcom complaints over plunging Tesco gown."

 

"Man seen jogging in red Victoria's Secret in Sefton park is a doctor." 

 

 

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