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Go fuck yourselves FSG


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But that wouldn't make them 'better' it would make them worse. To most of us anyway.

 

There would be those who wouldn't care if it meant big money signings on tap (which you can't actually do anymore because of FFP anyway, a fact that seems lost on a lot of football fans).

 

I'd be extremely surprised if there was anyone out there who could afford us that would be better than FSG.

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4 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

The simple fact is that they're supremely good at running sports teams. Winners in baseball and football in a pretty short period of time using cutting edge methods, data, hiring great people, etc... Yeah, they're soulless investment bankers who are a bit tone deaf and bad at PR, but in the grand scheme of things, they're winners. That's pretty much all that needs to be said. 

With all due respect, for those that are going to games regularly there probably are other things that could be said.

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Just now, dave u said:

But that wouldn't make them 'better' it would make them worse. To most of us anyway.

 

There would be those who wouldn't care if it meant big money signings on tap (which you can't actually do anymore because of FFP anyway, a fact that seems lost on a lot of football fans).

 

I'd be extremely surprised if there was anyone out there who could afford us that would be better than FSG.

I don't think we're going to be easy to sell. Whether they're better than FSG or not (probably not).

 

They've raised the value of the club so much that we are a considerably riskier purchase, and affordable to a considerably smaller group of people.

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Exactly. That's my point. Who out there could buy us and be better than them? The days of a Steve Morgan or some other wealthy fan buying us are long gone as the values of clubs is off the scale now.

 

You only have to look at the ownership of all of the other top Premier League clubs. Who would you want to swap for FSG?

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5 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

With all due respect, for those that are going to games regularly there probably are other things that could be said.

I said they're soulless and bad at PR like a sentence before. I get there are other issues, but they are very good in general at this owning a sports team thing. 

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9 minutes ago, dave u said:

Exactly. That's my point. Who out there could buy us and be better than them? The days of a Steve Morgan or some other wealthy fan buying us are long gone as the values of clubs is off the scale now.

 

You only have to look at the ownership of all of the other top Premier League clubs. Who would you want to swap for FSG?

Mike Ashley could do a job.

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45 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

You think Anfield should move further to multi use?

Well I'm not sure it's been quite the success the club wanted, they certainly hadn't booked all this summers slots for concerts etc before covid arrived. However, from a personal perspective I have no issue with it, but I live 2.5 miles from the stadium, so I think that's a matter for the club to be able to negotiate with the local residents. But if approached properly (like the 2nd effort on going multi use) I think the locals can be brought on board as the stadium is the biggest asset north Liverpool has. The more that's done in the stadium, the more you can bring people in from outside. The main stand could certainly be used for conferencing, although I imagine that's tough to do around a fixture calendar that is not always set in stone. If that could trigger investment as was considered some years ago getting office space as well as hotel in anfield, I don't think it can be bad for either the club or the area. 

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4 hours ago, dave u said:

 The exception to that would be the owners of City and PSG, who have other reasons for wanting to own clubs that are even more unpalatable than greed.

 

So, while there are things I don't like about FSG I mostly just accept it because we could be a lot worse off, and probably will be when they eventually sell up.

City and psgs owners are 100% here for the money, it's just indirect as it's the cheapest way they can make their abhorrent states appear acceptable to the west and get people flocking there. 

 

As for fsg, I'm under no illusions we're stuck with them until they choose not to be here. However that doesn't mean we should give them an easy ride. We absolutely shouldn't. We should make it as difficult as possible for them to take the piss. They spend a lot of marketing money on the back of the 12th man at the stadium and how as a club and fanbase we're somehow different to everyone else, how we some how have a different emotional attachment than fans of other clubs. Well if they want to trade on that, we should at least make them make some sort of an effort to adhere to these supposed values. 

 

I start getting involved on this thread over the last few pages because someone posted about the fans who are calling for "fsg out". I personally don't believe those fans exist, not anyone I've seen on here, I've certainly not hear any in the ground. It doesn't mean though while they're here we can't expect them.to try and be the best possible owners we could have. We should expect that and it would be still true if we were bought out by whoever is jammy enough to have a couple of billion down the back of the sofa. There's an area that between black and white and I genuinely find it astonishing anyone occupies the white ground and feels the need to be a fan boy of a bunch of hedgefunders. I'm not coming across anyone who occupies what black ground and believes we need to be rid of them at all costs, because we simply don't and any commonsense says we could easily end up with worse as Newcastle might be about to find out. 

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5 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

With all due respect, for those that are going to games regularly there probably are other things that could be said.

Things like... the world's greatest (and, at the time of signing, most expensive) keeper and centre back have helped to make Anfield a fortress again. Things like ... the new stand is magnificent and puts the shitty 90s stands (built when we were owned by a fan) to shame.  Things like... I'm looking forward to next season, secure in the knowledge that the club will still be here.

 

Yeah, matchgoing fans who lived through the mediocrity under Moores and the horror of Randolph and Mortimer should have a few things to say about FSG.

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11 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Things like... the world's greatest (and, at the time of signing, most expensive) keeper and centre back have helped to make Anfield a fortress again. Things like ... the new stand is magnificent and puts the shitty 90s stands (built when we were owned by a fan) to shame.  Things like... I'm looking forward to next season, secure in the knowledge that the club will still be here.

 

Yeah, matchgoing fans who lived through the mediocrity under Moores and the horror of Randolph and Mortimer should have a few things to say about FSG.

Perfectly entitled to your view but giving kudos to FSG for Van Dijk and Alisson is REACHING. They admitted they would not have gone for those players but for the sale of Coutinho. The kudos should fall at Edwards and Jurgen for wise reinvestment more than anything.

 

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5 minutes ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Perfectly entitled to your view but giving kudos to FSG for Van Dijk and Alisson is REACHING. They admitted they would not have gone for those players but for the sale of Coutinho. The kudos should fall at Edwards and Jurgen for wise reinvestment more than anything.

 

Edwards and Klopp arrived by unicorn and installed themselves in the roles they now inhabit.  

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16 hours ago, niallers said:

if it turns out that there will not be a lot of spending by nearly all the clubs, I'd rather have our squad than all the others. I expect we'll add 1 or2 and offload a few dead logs to pay for them, even if its just wages off the books 

Lots of hacks suggest there will be lots of selling but not much buying, which suggests they don't understand how the market works. Who are these mysterious clubs that will be buying what we're selling even though they're not buying?

 

Every season since Jurgen came in we've had multiple CB injury crises - which is a bit odd, given the intensity elsewhere in the team - so we surely need a CB who will be competent and fit. Nat Phillips and Hoever are coming through but they've hardly been used yet and that's not really good enough for next season. We (still) urgently need cover at LB for Robertson. We need fresh legs and some creativity in midfield. And we need a better option than Origi in attack. If FSG are really just hoping that Klopp will 'work some magic' to compensate for us not bringing in new players then they're smoking something more potent than they have down at the Emirates.

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They're good owners but I wish they would invest more cash for players without having to sell first. It's their business, they're investing in their own company. I spend money on my house I hold out the hope I get it back when it's selling time. They've already quadrupled the value o f the club. They're going to make a buck. I don't think it's obscene to speculate now and then when the time calls for it. 

 

Honestly I can't see these same group of players going for it again without new recruitment to freshen it up and offer something different, they have run through brick wall after brick wall. It's insane what they have achieved. We are at the pinnacle and still we all think it's a joke when we are linked to a player. It shouldnt be. But fuck it that's for next season I'm still buzzing for this one.

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I think it's worth considering the transfer history under Klopp. He denied Alisson was being signed, then he signed. Fabinho came out of nowhere. Salah was apparently not a first choice signing. 

 

All this talk of "we're not signing anyone" could just be part of the game plan. I'd be amazed if we made zero signings between now and window shutdown date but it will probably be under the radar. 

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