Big Andy.

[KopOut]

A fine contrasting strike partnership to Suarez.

[Russ Atmosphere]

A fine contrasting strike partnership to Suarez.

 

Yep, it contrastingly didn't provide any goals.

[xerxes]

A fine contrasting strike partnership to Suarez.

 

Difficult for Luis to get the knockdowns when Andy is out injured.

[john23liverpool]

It's criminal when you think we could have had aguero, silva and van persie for the money we paid for Carroll downing and Henderson. (On paper at least). We have been SHIT at spending money since 2006. Has there been another club more wasteful than us in that time?

[brucespanner]

It's criminal when you think we could have had aguero, silva and van persie for the money we paid for Carroll downing and Henderson. (On paper at least). We have been SHIT at spending money since 2006. Has there been another club more wasteful than us in that time?

 

We could have had both and for much less than they eventually went for, Rafa had an eye for talent, some shite as well admittedly.

[Whelan]

Except the wages are quite different - Aguero is on £250k a week, so that is close to £6m a year extra.

 

I think it goes without saying we could have spent that money far better - but not necessarily on Aguero, or the Rapist.

[Hobbs]

Except the wages are quite different - Aguero is on £250k a week, so that is close to £6m a year extra.

 

I think it goes without saying we could have spent that money far better - but not necessarily on Aguero, or the Rapist.

 

This was Paul Tomkins' argument last year in trying to justify signing Carroll et al. It overlooks the fact that not only will we lose £17m or so on his transfer fee, the return on investment from Aguero's wages is still significantly greater than the neglible contribution we were getting for £90k-100k per week from Carroll.

 

The money saved on wages argument is a fallacy when you compare the gulf in quality of the players we've been signing for the last decade (with a few notable exceptions).

[Whelan]

This was Paul Tomkins' argument last year in trying to justify signing Carroll et al. It overlooks the fact that not only will we lose £17m or so on his transfer fee, the return on investment from Aguero's wages is still significantly greater than the neglible contribution we were getting for £90k-100k per week from Carroll.

 

The money saved on wages argument is a fallacy when you compare the gulf in quality of the players we've been signing for the last decade (with a few notable exceptions).

 

That is hindsight though!

 

You don't spend £35m on a player, and then factor in losing £20m within a year.

 

That £6m a year extra over 5 years adds £30m to the original £35m fee. So it isn't a fallacy it is a fact. As I say - the money can quite clearly have been spent better, which is why the argument for factoring in the loss is not relevant - a successful Andy Caroll would be worth £25m.

 

£35m plus £20m over five years, or;

£35 plus £60m over five years!

[John McClane]

WHU are 7 points away from relegation, in which I am almost certain they will be in the PL next season. They have 12 games left inc playing us, so AC has 11 games to improve on his 2 goals this season. (I know he has been injured, not having a go)

If he reaches 10 goals, would WHU spend the money on him (circa £18m).

 

What would be regarded as a success for him this season?

and more importantly

What fee are we likely to get this summer?

[A Red]

It's criminal when you think we could have had aguero, silva and van persie for the money we paid for Carroll downing and Henderson. (On paper at least). We have been SHIT at spending money since 2006. Has there been another club more wasteful than us in that time?

 

Yes we've been wasteful, but we've got no chance attracting such players until we're in the champions league assuming we could match their wage demands

[RobbieOR]

2 goals at this stage of the season.

 

£35m. What the fuck were we playing at.

[TheHowieLama]

No one will buy Andy Carroll for more than 10m. No one.

[xerxes]

WHU are 7 points away from relegation, in which I am almost certain they will be in the PL next season. They have 12 games left inc playing us, so AC has 11 games to improve on his 2 goals this season. (I know he has been injured, not having a go)

If he reaches 10 goals, would WHU spend the money on him (circa £18m).

 

What would be regarded as a success for him this season?

and more importantly

What fee are we likely to get this summer?

 

There is no way that Sullivan and the Golds will sanction an £18m fee plus £80k a week.

 

We will end up with between £5m and £8m and we will have to subsidise his wages, the biggest hit on a transfer we have ever had to take.

 

Rodgers has been proved right letting him go.

[Trucker Paddy]

2 goals at this stage of the season.

 

£35m. What the fuck were we playing at.

 

2 more than Borini

[Whelan]

2 more than Borini

 

3 less than Sturridge!

[Trucker Paddy]

 

3 less than Sturridge!

 

Indeed

[Whelan]

Indeed

 

But, far less than Kuyt, Maxi and Bellamy! Who he was supposed to have been brought in for.

 

I'm not quite sure what he is - wide right or a forward?

[king7]

From now on we should only sign players with proven goalscoring ability when out injured.

[RobbieOR]

2 more than Borini

 

1 actually. And I dont see why Borini is brought up because Ive never said he was a great signing.

[rubberduckstyle]

2 goals at this stage of the season.

 

£35m. What the fuck were we playing at.

 

When you factor in he was injured when we bought him I'm amazed nobody served time for that monumental (emphasis on mental) fuck up. A guy that couldn't get a game when he was fucked off to Preston North End, followed it up by being relegated with Newcastle, scored 31 league goals, 17 in The Championship and we see fit to spend £35m on him. Again, while he was injured and while we had absolutely no competition for him.

 

Somebody, somewhere is eating a Toffee Crisp I reckon because it boggles the mind that with all the people involved in that transfer on our side nobody turned round and said, hold up lads, what the fuck is going on? A stench of new money off that transfer and a desperately poor use of club resources.

[redfromtubebar]

Worst signing in football history.

 

Everybody involved on our side should hang their heads in fucking shame.

 

I don't want to criticise Kenny but how could he, with all of his experience within the game, have given his blessing at that fee? It's hard to comprehend.

[rubberduckstyle]

Worst signing in football history.

 

Everybody involved on our side should hang their heads in fucking shame.

 

I don't want to criticise Kenny but how could he, with all of his experience within the game, have given his blessing at that fee? It's hard to comprehend.

 

That is surly true? He brought nothing to the table but an admission that he liked a few drinks. I think he will go back to Newcastle for a nominal fee at the end of the season. We have been pissed about for years when it comes to these shite hawk loan deals and I don't think this will be any different. To be fair, West Ham would want to be crazy to pay the £18-20m that is being touted.

[Jairzinho]

If you did a top 20 worst signings in the history of football we'd have about five or six in it.

[johnno]

If we are forced into bringing him back,give him a full pre season in carras position.

 

His strength was clearing corners for us.

[dennis tooth]

wank him off hes shit