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Just Finished An Epic Swindle


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Why do you think that mate?

 

Fuck knows, all i know is the firm i work for had construction issue drawings for the previous proposal at Stanley Park over 3 years ago, as we were in contention to build the roof / walls, and that never materialised.

 

Laing O'Rourke were appointed as the principle contractor just before the plug was pulled.

 

I believe planning has since been revoked pending discussion, but to be honest i've have not been following it in depth.

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Business wise, NOBODY is making long term plans. The whole global economy is still on a knife edge. However, if we make progress up the league over the next couple of seasons, and generate more income in Europe, and season tickets sales are strong (based on results, probably) then as and when they can afford it, they'll re-look at the stadium.

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Eh? Any stadium build will involve club debt and sponsorship deals. The club will have to get a loan and pay for it, no one I know thinks otherwise.

 

At the same time it's fair to question how things have been financed to date.

 

There is no inconsistency at all, what are you talking about?

 

Yes, club debt that you and others seem paranoid about. That's what Im talking about.

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So essentially you want them to;build a new stadium or redevelop Anfield at a minimum cost of, let's say for arguments sake, £150m (redevelopment. You can double that sum for a new build). You must therefore want them to explore ways to raise that money, presumably by placing debt on the club or some other vehicle using the club as security?

At the same time you question how the current finances are managed.

No inconsistency there, then!

 

There is no inconsistency whatsoever.

 

All Clubs have to invest in their infrastructure at various points.An investment in a new or redeveloped stadium which pays back over the next 50 years is money wisely spent.

 

Questioning how the finances are managed is right and proper. Failing to invest in the future is unacceptable.

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There is no inconsistency whatsoever.

 

All Clubs have to invest in their infrastructure at various points.An investment in a new or redeveloped stadium which pays back over the next 50 years is money wisely spent.

 

Questioning how the finances are managed is right and proper. Failing to invest in the future is unacceptable.

 

The inconsistency is people's paranoia about the current owners.

 

Strange that the same people keep starting these threads every other week or so. Maybe they think if they keep on about 'the owners,' something nasty will come up on day?

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Yes, club debt that you and others seem paranoid about. That's what Im talking about.

 

I'm not paranoid at all, wanting to know details isn't paranoia.

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Yes, club debt that you and others seem paranoid about. That's what Im talking about.

Club debt itself may be nothing to worry about. The status of it is.

 

Debt resulting from ground improvements has a payback.

 

Debt resulting from money being siphoned off to shareholders may be bad.

 

Debt underwritten by FSG to improve the squad may be good.

 

Debt accrued on behalf of the club to a point may be acceptable, beyond a point it is not, see G&H.

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The inconsistency is people's paranoia about the current owners.

 

Strange that the same people keep starting these threads every other week or so. Maybe they think if they keep on about 'the owners,' something nasty will come up on day?

 

Haha you sound paranoid.

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Juve built a new stadium and now it looks like they will win Serie A unbeaten.

 

Just saying.

 

Shame it's only 41k seater, but how much does this make you want a new stadium?

 

Inside_Juventus_Stadium.jpg

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Im more interested in building a top team before a new stadium.You cant have one without the other.

 

Man u/Arsenal are earning £1.5m a game more than us at the gate. new/redeveloped stadium expenditure is outside FFP, income is in. It is the one thing that we can do which will enable us to cactch up with our competitors.

 

FSG are not going to bankroll a City type attack on the PL. The Euro elite now all boast stadia with larger capacities than us.

 

The idea that we can finance a top team from Anfield as it is in the future is becoming a pipe dream.

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I just want us to get plans in place for a new stadium or redevelopment of Anfield.

 

We need to get it sorted soon or else we'll continue to lose out on loads of revenue.

 

Yep,one of the biggest issues at hand and they've had plenty of time to look at all the options.

 

If its a simple case of them not wanting to part with their own money to fund part of the stadium then they should never have taken the club on in the first place.No way is there zero options for naming rights,so take the biggest offer add the rest to it and get it done,they will get it back and more with the value added to the club and revenue,however that's long term which is what's holding them back.Investors don't like stumping up money for a long term return

 

I'd say nothing new has developed in months,ie we know redevelopment of Anfield isn't going to happen and new naming rights partners aren't gona just suddenly come into the mix as all potential ones should have been contacted so what's the wait for

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Didnt Ian Ayre say that he is trying to secure naming rights and/or sponsorships for enough money to build it. Maybe this seasons events with suarezgate have put some potential suitors off for the time being because it shouldnt be hard for a club as big as this to secure naming rights.

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Tell that to the 50k on a waiting list for a season ticket

 

Are they going to be there for every game including games against no mark opposition in the like of the Carling and Europa Cups?

 

Man u/Arsenal are earning £1.5m a game more than us at the gate. new/redeveloped stadium expenditure is outside FFP, income is in. It is the one thing that we can do which will enable us to cactch up with our competitors.

 

FSG are not going to bankroll a City type attack on the PL. The Euro elite now all boast stadia with larger capacities than us.

 

The idea that we can finance a top team from Anfield as it is in the future is becoming a pipe dream.

 

Are we prepared to keep on winning nothing for years with squad of young players who jump ship every time a team with a chance of winning trophies come in,like Arsenal?

 

United are jammy bastards and owe a massive debt to the Luftwaffe for clearing the area around the ground back in the early forties.They didnt have to build from scratch like Arsenal.

 

I doubt we could finance a top team while paying for a new stadium.At the same time we cant afford to lose revenue by closing parts of Anfield so its all or nothing realistically.

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Are they going to be there for every game including games against no mark opposition in the like of the Carling and Europa Cups?

 

 

 

Are we prepared to keep on winning nothing for years with squad of young players who jump ship every time a team with a chance of winning trophies come in,like Arsenal?

 

United are jammy bastards and owe a massive debt to the Luftwaffe for clearing the area around the ground back in the early forties.They didnt have to build from scratch like Arsenal.

 

I doubt we could finance a top team while paying for a new stadium.At the same time we cant afford to lose revenue by closing parts of Anfield so its all or nothing realistically.

 

Who cares? They'll still have paid for their seat for every league game.

 

When you reduce prices for cup games plenty of people turn up.

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