Racism

[AngryOfTuebrook]

6 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

There's also a bit that says "we can't be a racist country, because the opening ceremony of the 2012 Olympics featured a celebration of the Windrush Generation" (because, of course, that's the most significant thing that's happened to that generation in the last decade).

"I can't be racist.  I like that Dizzee Rascal song and he's black."

 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

6 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

I'm going to need a chiropractor the amount I have shaken my head this morning.

 

I've read as much around it as possible and still can't fathom how with the data and evidence they have they have managed to project this image.

 

Mirza is the worst possible person to front this, a woman who believes that there are no barriers for minorities, or women, and who is one of Alexs 'people'. Stitch up from the start, my only concern is that Tony Sewell put his name to it, which is grim as he's very well respected.

 

Effectively some Asian heritage kids do better than white boys so racism is over, mad.

 

No real look at trends, demographics, agency, limited access, family structure, socio-economic standing, it's so flawed that it's a pisstake.

I’m not sure I get Sewell’s argument here? To me, he seems to be spectacularly missing the point.

 

https://twitter.com/i/events/1377184250697371648?s=21

[Strontium]

These days, I wouldn't see British racism as being along the "Black people bad, white people good, raargh" lines. British people are largely indifferent to skin colour. It is more xenophobic, nationalistic, British exceptionalism, Britain uber alles, we're-better-than-the-forrins, sort of type thing.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

These days, I wouldn't see British racism as being along the "Black people bad, white people good, raargh" lines. British people are largely indifferent to skin colour. It is more xenophobic, nationalistic, British exceptionalism, Britain uber alles, we're-better-than-the-forrins, sort of type thing.

Wow. 

[Strontium]

Thanks for that forensic analysis, as always.

[Bruce Spanner]

6 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I’m not sure I get Sewell’s argument here? To me, he seems to be spectacularly missing the point.

 

https://twitter.com/i/events/1377184250697371648?s=21

Sewell did a lot of good work back In the day and that’s what most will remember, his later years are, how you say, ‘problematic.

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

17 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

These days, I wouldn't see British racism as being along the "Black people bad, white people good, raargh" lines. British people are largely indifferent to skin colour. It is more xenophobic, nationalistic, British exceptionalism, Britain uber alles, we're-better-than-the-forrins, sort of type thing.

Because the numbers of people openly saying "black people bad" is lower* than it was in Enoch's day, doesn't mean that the country's culture and institutions aren't riddled with racism from top to bottom.  Racists today are more likely to use dog-whistles than megaphones: so, Yaxley-Lennon pretends that he's all about protecting the kiddies and not at all concerned with P***-bashing, nosireebob.

 

(*Probably higher than it was 5 or 6 years ago, but, y'know...)

[Bruce Spanner]

25 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

These days, I wouldn't see British racism as being along the "Black people bad, white people good, raargh" lines. British people are largely indifferent to skin colour. It is more xenophobic, nationalistic, British exceptionalism, Britain uber alles, we're-better-than-the-forrins, sort of type thing.

 

I think the fact you'll now be arrested and charged saying it as it's illegal to do so might make a significant difference.

 

The words change, racists don't*

 

*Apart from Ed Norton in American History X

[Stickman]

Top trolling from David Baddiel (Jews don’t count)  sharing top billing with a man who happily admits to being an anti-Semite and Nazi apologist in Taki , pregnant wife beater and professional racist Rod Liddle and Douglas Murray who wanted Muslims forced out of Europe ...Oh and disgraced  Islamophobe Julie Burchill  

Wonder if this counts as sharing a platform with known racists ?

 

Forgot to mention the leader of the Lib Dem’s is in there too,,,Which is understandable as everyone seems to forget he is the leader of the Lib Dem’s too 

 

[Anubis]

The Lib Dems have a leader? When did that happen? I knew Jo Swinson had toddled off but I didn't realise they'd got round to getting someone in.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Anubis said:

The Lib Dems have a leader? When did that happen? I knew Jo Swinson had toddled off but I didn't realise they'd got round to getting someone in.

I don't think anybody cares anymore. 

[Strontium]

9 minutes ago, Stickman said:

Top trolling from David Baddiel (Jews don’t count)  sharing top billing with a man who happily admits to being an anti-Semite and Nazi apologist in Taki , pregnant wife beater and professional racist Rod Liddle and Douglas Murray who wanted Muslims forced out of Europe ...Oh and disgraced  Islamophobe Julie Burchill  

Wonder if this counts as sharing a platform with known racists ?

 

Forgot to mention the leader of the Lib Dem’s is in there too,,,Which is understandable as everyone seems to forget he is the leader of the Lib Dem’s too 

 

 

This may come as a shock to you, but guest contributors to periodicals don't generally have editorial control over their content.

[Bjornebye]

I wonder if Baddiel will write his content in black face? 

[ZonkoVille77]

Baddiel is a fucking tit.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

28 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I wonder if Baddiel will write his content in black face? 

I can't criticise him for that, because I played a golliwog in a school Christmas play when I was 12.

 

[Rico1304]

50 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

This may come as a shock to you, but guest contributors to periodicals don't generally have editorial control over their content.

It’s so blatant.  

[Stickman]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

This may come as a shock to you, but guest contributors to periodicals don't generally have editorial control over their content.

True, but you kinda have a choice if you want to be a guest contributor to a certain periodical 

[Rico1304]

12 minutes ago, Stickman said:

True, but you kinda have a choice if you want to be a guest contributor to a certain periodical 

I’m pretty sure the Canary and socialist worker weren’t touting for articles on anti Semitism.  Can’t think why. 

[Stickman]

18 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

I’m pretty sure the Canary and socialist worker weren’t touting for articles on anti Semitism.  Can’t think why. 

Here’s one if you want to read it ....

 

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/50442/What+are+the+roots+of+antisemitism

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, Stickman said:

Here’s one if you want to read it ....

 

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/50442/What+are+the+roots+of+antisemitism

 

Great first line that shuts down debate from the very beginning: "Antisemitism belongs to the right. That’s a simple and straightforward fact."

 

Somebody should tell him about the Soviet Union.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, Stickman said:

Here’s one if you want to read it ....

 

https://socialistworker.co.uk/art/50442/What+are+the+roots+of+antisemitism

Did you? I mean it’s only fair. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Great first line that shuts down debate from the very beginning: "Antisemitism belongs to the right. That’s a simple and straightforward fact."

 

Somebody should tell him about the Soviet Union.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union

Not sure the Soviet Union was a bastion of progressive Socialism, to be honest.

[TheHowieLama]

The Everyday Jew is a great band name.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

23 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

Here's Marx's take on "the Jewish question" as he put it in an essay written in 1843, 100 years before the holocaust :

 

"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew.,.......In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism""

 

 

I for one am shocked to discover anti-Semitism in 19th Century Germany, of all places.

[SasaS]

Marx was a bit of a Jew himself.