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Faith and Religion


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Cardinal Pell, the third highest ranked person in the Catholic Church has been found guilty of five counts of child sexual abuse. 

 

He was found guilty back in December, but there was a gagging order in place due to him being involved in a further trial, which ended in a mistrial. 

 

The Catholic Church is absolutely rotten to the core. With sex offenders, enablers and cover ups. 

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34 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

If it was anything other than a religion it would be forced to close its doors. How they get away with it is beyond me. The Pope (and every Pope before him) should be in prison. 

And yet millions of people will go to their local branch on Sunday and give them money to carry out their paedo activities.

 

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39 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

If it was anything other than a religion it would be forced to close its doors. How they get away with it is beyond me. The Pope (and every Pope before him) should be in prison. 

I compare it to McDonald's. Imagine McDonald's supplying kids with toys that destroyed their child hood and good part of their adult life. The money the church has got away with paying as compensation is criminal.

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Without wanting to go in to the whole Ireland issue, the state and attitude of the Roman Catholic church and the grip it had on the country, gives a little insight into the "no surrender" die hard attitude of some non Roman Catholics.

 

If the Roman Catholic church was fucked off, there could be a united Ireland within 20 years

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11 hours ago, A Red said:

Without wanting to go in to the whole Ireland issue, the state and attitude of the Roman Catholic church and the grip it had on the country, gives a little insight into the "no surrender" die hard attitude of some non Roman Catholics.

 

If the Roman Catholic church was fucked off, there could be a united Ireland within 20 years

And there is not the same from the other side too? I find that very hard to believe myself.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-47613578

 

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LGBT lessons row: More Birmingham schools stop classes

Four more schools in Birmingham have stopped teaching about LGBT rights following complaints by parents.

Leigh Trust said it was suspending the No Outsiders programme until an agreement with parents was reached.

Earlier this month the city's Parkfield Community School suspended the lessons after protests were held.

Campaigner Amir Ahmed said some Muslims felt "victimised" but an LGBT group leader said No Outsiders helped pupils understand it is OK to be different.

In a letter seen by the BBC, Leigh Trust said it was halting the lessons until after Ramadan in May.

The schools involved are Leigh Primary School, Alston Primary School, Marlborough Junior and Infants School and Wyndcliff Primary School.
 
Leigh Trust - which is yet to comment publicly - said it wanted to discuss the programme with parents to find "a positive way" of teaching about the Equalities Act.

Some parents at Parkfield, and the other four schools, claim the classes are inappropriate for young children and the schools' LGBT message contradicts Islam.

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Mr Ahmed said his community was "respectful and tolerant" of British values but now felt victimised.
 
He claimed parents who had protested were "effectively seen as homophobes in the wider community".

"Fundamentally the issue we have with No Outsiders is that it is changing our children's moral position on family values on sexuality and we are a traditional community.

"Morally we do not accept homosexuality as a valid sexual relationship to have. It's not about being homophobic... that's like saying, if you don't believe in Islam, you're Islamophobic."

 

 

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Would not any parent - Muslim or otherwise - who did not believe in "homosexuality as a valid sexual relationship to have" run the risk of being labelled homophobic?

 

Just as, I would suggest, anyone who did not believe in "Islam as a valid religious faith to have" might quite easily be labelled Islamophobic.

 

 

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1 hour ago, skaro said:

 

Would not any parent - Muslim or otherwise - who did not believe in "homosexuality as a valid sexual relationship to have" run the risk of being labelled homophobic?

 

Just as, I would suggest, anyone who did not believe in "Islam as a valid religious faith to have" might quite easily be labelled Islamophobic.

 

 

Yes.

The argument that fella tried though in equating it to saying "if you don't believe in Islam your Islamophobic" would if reversed therefore to mean that "unless you are homosexual you are homophobic".  So he's made a bit of a wally of himself there.

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14 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Yes.

The argument that fella tried though in equating it to saying "if you don't believe in Islam your Islamophobic" would if reversed therefore to mean that "unless you are homosexual you are homophobic".  So he's made a bit of a wally of himself there.

 

Yeah, analogies and comparisons probably weren't the way to go.

In fact, reading that piece, he might have been better off saying nowt. 

"We're a traditional community" could have come out of the mouth of Mary Whitehouse.

 

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