Fucking delusioned.

[silverlining]

Well bruce, I think you do make some valid points, if perhaps slightly on the pessimistic side.

 

I like seeing Kenny back as manager; it's wionderful seeing a Liverpool legend bossing the media and acting like a proper Liverpool manager.

 

But that enjoyment is tempered by the fact that ANYONE would have been preferable to that cunt Hodgson.

 

And when discussions about who I'd really have preferred, well, a proven winner like Mourinho or sought-after young manager would have been my choice, yes, even over Kenny.

 

As for our 80m transfer business since Jan, I've not been shy about admitting that I wouldn't have bought Carroll, Henderson, Adam or Downing as my first choices. Or in some cases, even third or fourth.

 

The joy of seeing Budgie gone, allied with the return of Kenny and money to spend at last - and a palpable sense of optimism under the new owners - should certainly be tempered with a dose of rerality. I thought we would syruggle to come fourth, at best.

 

And fourth is looking as good as we could dream of, because it's fucking obvious, and has been for ages, that Man Shitty would finish above us last season, and will again. United being above us is a given, especially seeing how superbly Young and Rooney are playing, and Chelsea will also finish Top 3.

 

So it's us, Arsenal and Spurs.

[silverlining]

He's unemployed, well doing tv work.

 

It makes perfect sense. Kenny is a man of honour and will step aside at the end of the season and Rafa could take over because, let's be honest, it's for the best.

 

Right, well this has to be a piss-take

[brucespanner]

Right, well this has to be a piss-take

 

Welcome to yesterday Silver. Check the MF.

[silverlining]

Hahaha, sorry! I answered honestly. Silly me.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

No need to take that tone Mr DIARRHEA this a public forum after all, where people are free to air their views. If you don't agree argue the point, instead of petty name calling because it's not very becoming.

 

we are all entitled to our opinion Mr Spanner, the fact that your are so obviously a WUM makes your opinion worthless. Run along.

[Sugar Ape]

I see Sloan is viewing the thread. I'd be interested in his opinion on all of this.

[Paul]

Fuck me, this thread is genius. There are at least five posts by Al that brought tears to my eyes. Very, very good work chaps; you've brightened a gloomy Sunday morning already.

[Hand Shandy]

Yep. Zeke started high with 'the spade in the ground' post and just got better and better.

[silverlining]

Fuck me, this thread is genius. There are at least five posts by Al that brought tears to my eyes. Very, very good work chaps; you've brightened a gloomy Sunday morning already.

 

Doesn't look quite so funny and absurd now, unfortunately

[Thants]

 

Don't worry Jesus, it's lunchtime soon.

[Gym Beglin]

Skrtel, Lucas, Carragher.

 

The three reasons we fuck up time and time again.

Don't worry if you can't see that, it's like how some people can do cryptic crosswords and others can't.

The three of them are god-awful footballers with zero desire to be attacking. Pepe is more of an offensive threat than those three, it's fucking appalling.

[Jairzinho]

Skrtel, Lucas, Carragher.

 

The three reasons we fuck up time and time again.

Don't worry if you can't see that, it's like how some people can do cryptic crosswords and others can't.

The three of them are god-awful footballers with zero desire to be attacking. Pepe is more of an offensive threat than those three, it's fucking appalling.

 

You've named two defenders and our holding midfielder.

 

Am I missing something?

[Gym Beglin]

You've named two defenders and our holding midfielder.

 

Am I missing something?

 

I think so.

[TheDrowningMan]

The difference between Lucas and Mascherano is that the latter - although very much a defensive player - possessed a drive and tenacity that allowed him to get forward and boost the play.Lucas is entirely, irreversibly defensive in every single way. He's a good player, very good at what he does but there's no way he'd get near Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City or Tottenham's side. No way at all - he's done a good job, but there's no question that he's one of the players we should be looking to replace, because we're effectively playing with an extra defender instead of a hold midfielder.

[Jairzinho]

Gareth Barry starts almost every game for Manchester City.

 

I really don't see the problem with having one player to just shield the back four and keep it simple. Unfortunately the players infront of him, who's job it is to do the goals and that, were terrible.

[TheDrowningMan]

Gareth Barry starts almost every game for Manchester City.

 

I really don't see the problem with having one player to just shield the back four and keep it simple. Unfortunately the players infront of him, who's job it is to do the goals and that, were terrible.

 

Barry, despite being a pedestrian player, chips in with more going forward than Lucas.

[ngogswilly]

Lucas is not the problem in our midfield. I think its quite clear we have 1 or 2 other problems.

[N'Gog I Trust]

I agree with the OP, very well said. Need Rafa to come back so our team is once again feared around Europe. Fair enough the football under him might not be exciting, with all those magical little triangles, but it sure is effective.

Edited September 18, 2011 by N'Gog I Trust

[Jairzinho]

Barry, despite being a pedestrian player, chips in with more going forward than Lucas.

 

Six goals in 93 games for City. Its better than Lucas, and I've no doubt he gets a few more assists as well, but the difference is probably just the gap in quality between the two sides. Three of the five players ahead of him today were Adam, Henderson and Carroll. None of which are currently good enough, certainly not on the same level as City's, or the other sides you've mentioned's, attacking midfielders/forwards.

 

I really feel Lucas is the least of our worries at the moment. His job is harder when we're not keeping the ball. When we're not creating chances. 35% possession today, any holding midfielder is going to make some mistakes in this situation.

 

Towards the end of last season when Suarez, Maxi, Meireles etc were playing high tempo one touch football in the opposition's third no-one mentions Lucas' lack of goals, or general attacking play. In the same way no-one bothers doing the same for Busquets or Alonso (I'm not suggesting Lucas is as good as either, he isn't, just that its equally as irrelevant).

[Guest TK-421]

Very good post jairzinho.

[lamai]

Adam deserved to go. blaming the ref is pathetic

[Bruce Spanner]

On 16/09/2011 at 16:44, Iceman said:

 

Mr Spanner, is this post actually serious?

No.