London looking like Mogadishu...

[RoboRiise]

OK, haven't checked but I know there's no way this thread can have gone 29 pages without at least one person doing this. Still, fuck it - it's good enough to appear more than once:

 

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Panic on the streets of London, panic on the streets of Birmingham...

[Wor Horse]

And can we drop the black thing, these arent black people, these are poor people. This how we get down.

 

But they're all black. Uh oh RACIST!

[Joe Le Taxi]

No care for your ears, clearly.

 

 

Even Skrillex laughs at you.

[dennis tooth]

Oh fuck off. Poor people generally don't behave like this. These are criminals. You do poor folk a disservice by associating these cunts with them.

 

Yes, they do stand up for themselves and there rights, they dont lie down. I dont need to do them a service, they not waiting for nobody god bless the child that can hold his own.

[Gym Beglin]

And don't go threatening people with your pelican brief shit dennis, I'm all for revolution, but I don't ever accept that it goes hand in hand with scaring innocents and hoping their house doesn't burn down in the middle of the fucking night.

 

It's bollocks, what possible positive outcome can come from this Dennis?

 

How about burning shit down in the rich parts of London?

That would almost make sense.

But depriving poor people of local amenities? Scaring them? Genius, I'm a right cunt for not helping.

[Guest ShoePiss]

Because Bath, York, Cambridge are essentially filled with reasonably decent folk not criminal pond life.

There is a reason scum ends up living in a particular area. Thats because they are lazy bastards and cannot be arsed putting in the work that it takes to better yourself. It takes sacrifice to make a success of yourself. T

 

I hope you've been on the meths again.

[Anny Road]

You can't seriously believe it's that simplistic.

 

The reason people live in a deprived area isn't normally through choice - they're usually born there. That doesn't automatically make them lazy, or scum. It does mean that they are considerably disadvantaged compared to people in affluent areas - like Bath, York, Cambridge, and Chipping Norton. It makes it considerably more difficult for them to struggle out of it. They are disadvantaged by a dysfunctional family life. They are educationally disadvantaged (schools with bigger class sizes). They are disadvantaged by a lack of funding for higher education. They are disadvantaged by a lack of employment opportunities, the traditional jobs having long since disappeared to the far east. They are disadvantaged by a lack of daddy's contacts. The especially clever ones may make it out. But the vast majority don't.

 

And when the gap between themselves and those at the top of the pile grows bigger, and bigger, sooner or later something gives.

 

Ken Livingstone made an excellent point when he said that you're dealing with people who don't feel a part of society, and so they are less likely to conform to it's rules.

 

In the 80's the Conservative government introduced a way of thinking in this country that greed was good, and looking after yourself was more important than looking after your community. They introduced the dog-eat-dog dogma, and this is what happens when the mongrels and curs band into a pack and go raiding. We didn't get to this position from a peaceful protest on Saturday. It's been building on an often smaller scale (with the occasional large outburst) since 1979.

I am serious mate. I was born in Marsh lane in the early 70's it doesn't get much grimmer than that.

While my mates were nicking cars and smoking pot I was doing my maths homework. I am thick as shit but I wanted out of the place I lived from an early age. You dont get to live in Bath by selling speed or nicking 10 year old escorts.

These are the fucking low lifes Nuke them from space.

[dennis tooth]

But they're all black. Uh oh RACIST!

 

No, no they are not all black. If you are racist you should have gone to specsavers.

[Section_31]

Oh fuck off. Poor people generally don't behave like this. These are criminals. You do poor folk a disservice by associating these cunts with them.

 

It's not just about being poor, it's also about despiar. You can be poor and happy - if - and it's a big if - you have some semblence of community and family to depend on and to improve your general quality of life. Our country has nothing of the sort anymore, it's all been stripped away. There's nothing left to give a fuck about for these people.

[Mendoza]

It's a very materialistic revolution

 

[withnail71]

Just seen footage of David Moyes looting a sports trophy shop . the bastard !

[Guest ShoePiss]

It's not just about being poor, it's also about despiar. You can be poor and happy - if - and it's a big if - you have some semblence of community and family to depend on and to improve your general quality of life. Our country has nothing of the sort anymore, it's all been stripped away. There's nothing left to give a fuck about for these people.

 

That's it and fits in with your earlier 'powder keg' comment.

[Sloan]

Yes, they do stand up for themselves and there rights, they dont lie down. I dont need to do them a service, they not waiting for nobody god bless the child that can hold his own.

You fool. Here's what I can tell you about these so-called "poor" people. They've had it GOOD their whole life. They've been given free housing, free education, free health, law and order and a sense of security, and they've been given financial assistance their entire fucking lives. And this is how they repay the very society that helped them? Fuck them. And fuck your sympathies for them, you cock.

[Phoenix]

 

These kick offs are happening all over the world. People are rioting in London for the same reason they're rioting in Syria - and those involved don't even know it.

 

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Come on Section, comparing looters in the process of stealing the next nike trainer to the protestors in Syria is ridiculous.

[Wor Horse]

What I don't get that people don't seem to understand.

 

Being poor and economics do not come into it.

 

These are lawless people who have seen an opportunity to get a free ride, they're not rioting because of Duggan or because they're poor. They're rioting because they want free shit and they've got no respect for anyone but themselves and their 'bluds'.

 

These kids are not fucking poor! Look what they're wearing for God's sake! These aren't African kids who have fled famine, these are English born Kids who have lived here all their lives.

 

Just like the majority of perpetrators and victims of stabbings in London I bet a hell of a lot of these kids' parents are social workers, nurses etc.

 

They're all dressed in designer gear, absolutely no chance these people are as poor as some make out to the extent they're rioting to change it.

[Whelan]

You can't call yourself Liberal if you accept and condone violence, but I would hope that most reasonably intelligent people (which does rule Sloan out mind!) realise that wanting to understand why the riots occured in the first place, and seeing how people in different circumstances can react and behave differently to these situations, doesn't mean I believe that it is right to loot and plunder, and burn. It isn't and it is self defeating because it plays into the hands of idiots like Sloan, who sadly, represent a sizable minority of the population.

 

And since the main losers in this situation are people from this black community, maybe a little bit of understanding of that fact wouldn't go amiss in those calling for fucking Robocop.

 

And since we seem to be on some sort of 'poor deprived' pissing contest, I grew up in Walton in the 80's, smack and 89% youth unemployment, I have worked hard to get out, and through free choice decided to educate myself as best as I can. I can understant why they are rioting, whilst disagreeing with the consequences of it.

[Monster Masch]

Get the tear gas and rubber bullets out te fuck!

[Anny Road]

I hope you've been on the meths again.

 

Not at all. There is nothing about living in these areas that means you cannot succeed in life. Guess what that's hard. These dickheads think someone owes them a living. Get to fuck. If you leave school and can't read that is noones fault but your own.

The opportunities are there if you don't take them it's your own fault.

[dennis tooth]

And don't go threatening people with your pelican brief shit dennis, I'm all for revolution, but I don't ever accept that it goes hand in hand with scaring innocents and hoping their house doesn't burn down in the middle of the fucking night.

 

It's bollocks, what possible positive outcome can come from this Dennis?

 

How about burning shit down in the rich parts of London?

That would almost make sense.

But depriving poor people of local amenities? Scaring them? Genius, I'm a right cunt for not helping.

 

Got to start somewhere, oh right yeah they should have organised a coach over to the richer areas.

 

Positive outcome? You think the situation was positive before this? U trust those 'in charge' to do something positive before all this kicked off, people been waiting and the solution offered was more tax cuts for the rich.

They all panicking now but they cant put it back once its out.

I will tell you what good, fucking chaos, disorder, so long as you engage the system it will continue so long as you endorse fake democracy it wil continue, but refused to participate any more and the whole facade comes crashing down.

 

 

ROLL THA FUCKING DICE.

[withnail71]

What I don't get that people don't seem to understand.

 

Being poor and economics do not come into it.

 

These are lawless people who have seen an opportunity to get a free ride, they're not rioting because of Duggan or because they're poor. They're rioting because they want free shit and they've got no respect for anyone but themselves and their 'bluds'

abso fucking lutely !

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

It's not just about being poor, it's also about despiar. You can be poor and happy - if - and it's a big if - you have some semblence of community and family to depend on and to improve your general quality of life. Our country has nothing of the sort anymore, it's all been stripped away. There's nothing left to give a fuck about for these people.

 

So, why strip it away even more by setting fire to buildings in your community? Why make a shit hole even more of a shit hole? Why further diminish your quality of life? Why wait to do it now when it's been like that for ages?

 

Answer, because you're a bandwagon jumping criminal who is trying to justify your actions by an ideal that you know little about and couldn't elucidate upon if you tried....."it's about jobs and shit....innit blud"

[dennis tooth]

You fool. Here's what I can tell you about these so-called "poor" people. They've had it GOOD their whole life. They've been given free housing, free education, free health, law and order and a sense of security, and they've been given financial assistance their entire fucking lives. And this is how they repay the very society that helped them? Fuck them. And fuck your sympathies for them, you cock.

 

No thats just u stereotyping. And calling me a cock.

 

0 out of 2 isnt bad tho. I suggest you quit while you are behind.

Oh and they dont need my sympathies you can have them.

[RedKnight]

 

Cos u a faggot behind a keyboard thats why.

 

Cut this stuff out now.

[Kevin D]

It's not just about being poor, it's also about despiar. You can be poor and happy - if - and it's a big if - you have some semblence of community and family to depend on and to improve your general quality of life. Our country has nothing of the sort anymore, it's all been stripped away. There's nothing left to give a fuck about for these people.

 

There was a sensational post by RR about exactly that years ago. Been looking through a few Thatcher threads for the last 20 minutes but to no avail.

[ngogswilly]

The problem most of these rioters have now is they don't really have a leg to stand on if they are running around robbing HMVs and Foot Lockers.

 

I don't believe its as simplistic as made out by many people and people have to see the bigger picture in terms of whats wrong in society.

 

But this isn't a revolution of the poor. Its just a ridiculous amount of twats robbing shit like PS3 games and iPods and acting like scumbags.