London looking like Mogadishu...

[dennis tooth]

Wish I did play the banjo actually....

 

Why the fuck would I go out rioting for the sake of it? Why would i suddenly go out and start acting the Cunt. Why aren't you our there instead of sitting behind your computer dishing out drunken abuse.

 

Go out there and set fire to things if you believe in it so much. You're more the fool than me, sat at home acting the tit but calling the rest of us cunts.

 

You Childish Idiot.

 

Jog on meff, I dont drink for a start. As for starting a revolution I will be there at the end it was always going to be the youth who started it but people need to rise up. If you arent willing to even support it then you are just another turkey voting for Christmas. I only abuse the abusers I have been round these areas and shown a lot of hospitality from this community, these are poor people standing up and if you dont support it then you should be strung up and made to answer for why. As with the rest of them there is nothing but powderpuff bluster to justify not rioting or slagging off those that are behind your posturing, more concerned with the tube timetable and rehearsals, get a grip.

[Phoenix]

I live two minutes from Moss Side and Wythenshaw.

 

If they burnt down my house it wouldn't change the facts. It might make me angry and muddy my thoughts and objectivity on the issue though.

 

You live in Chorlton mate, which is nothing like Wythenshawe or Moss Side and neither are they two minutes away.

[Juniper]

Piss off, Dennis. Not even going to entertain a lengthy response to that.

 

Strung up? Fuck off.

[kelster]

There was one of these lads interviewed on 5 live this morning complaining that the government are cutting his benefit and closing the youth club where he goes. (he was 26). He said that if the government won't provide for him he is sick of it and is going to go out and take it. Asked why he doesn't get a job he said he has depression.

Fucking unreal.

 

Shoot the cunts.

 

So you watched a bit of telly, eh? Did they interview any of the kids who went to the youth club that has been closed and asked what they get up to now? I wouldn't want to speculate, but maybe a number of kids at this closed youth club were from single parent families whose only contact with responsible adults was at this place and maybe they got a little bit of adult guidance. That's all gone now.

 

Did they also talk to the children of families who have had their benefit cut? Life just got a bit harder for them.

[Mendoza]

[TheHitman]

Divide and rule, the old classic.

[dennis tooth]

Go on Dennis I dare you to set fire to your local Greggs.

 

stop being a middle class aspiring uncle tom. You are working class.

[ngogswilly]

I'd love to get stuck into this discussion as I think it's been a good thread, for the most part, so far but I'm "working" on some uni stuff.

However, I just can't believe the amount of people I've spoken to, on Facebook and on here that see no correlation between what's happening and the breakdown of society into what has become a self-centred, money grabbing shambles. I'm not particularly excusing the riots but actions have consequences, and 20 years of being served shit whilst those at the top ascend into further gluttony has left a nasty taste in the mouth. It doesn't just manifest itself by means of people thinking 'I don't have a job, I know I'll steal some stuff' but through continuous degradation of the system that is supposed to nurture and support people leading to a breakdown in morals and codes.

 

This isn't a one-off riot for no reason, it's a reaction to the situation so many disillusioned people find themselves in. Some of you have made remarks about this being the work of black youths, if you think that then ask yourself why its them? Is it because they're at the bottom of the pile, in the sections of society that have little hope and yet have to endure those gobshites running the country telling us we're all in it together.

 

Fuck that shit, people are angry. It was said that there would be riots when the Tories came to power, who knew it would take less than 18 months.

 

Definitely, western society whilst still probably the best in the world, is slowly beginning to crumble.

 

And its not just as simple as made out, the shite has been slowly rolling downhill for 20/30 years now and its been the richest 1% at the top shitting on everyone else.

[Code]

Where abouts? If it's posh you'll be alright.

 

Oxford Circus is too close for my liking, I`m staying close to Tottenham Court Rd station, but if I`m honest I`m not really worried and I dont actually feel like I`m entering a warzone.

 

I guess its been clamped down next week anyway.

[dennis tooth]

Piss off, Dennis. Not even going to entertain a lengthy response to that.

 

Strung up? Fuck off.

 

middle class fool

[BatChainPuller]

Be ironic if all this kick starts the buidling industry!

 

I counted 8 glazing vans in Wood Green High Road this afternoon - definitely the business to be in at present. Those looters are just radical neo-Keynesians.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

So Dennis. That building on the news now in Croydon. If that's a residential building, say with a 18 month old baby asleep upstairs, or in one of the neighbouring buildings, you going to support that. A martyr for the struggle?

 

Jog on, Knobend.

[Anubis]

Is it time to change the thread title to London looking like Mogadishu?

[Anny Road]

Out of interest, for those who think socio-economic conditions have nothing to do with it, why do you reckon we never see riots in Bath, Cambridge or York? Are the people of Bath genetically predisposed to having a peaceful nature? Or have they learned to better control their emotions? Like Mr Spock?

 

Because Bath, York, Cambridge are essentially filled with reasonably decent folk not criminal pond life.

There is a reason scum ends up living in a particular area. Thats because they are lazy bastards and cannot be arsed putting in the work that it takes to better yourself. It takes sacrifice to make a success of yourself. T

[Gym Beglin]

You're obviously joking Dennis, you aren't stupid.

[Whelan]

People don't riot because they are bored and the television is shite! If that was the case, then they would not be the rare occurance that they are!

 

They don't do it because they are black either, what about the riot in Bristol a month or so ago, that wasn't in a black area!

 

People riot because they feel frustrated, and that frustration is the result of years (not days or weeks), years of frustration, of barriers, of predjudice, of low self esteem from not having a job, not having hope. All of that comes out in the wrong way, because essentially they are all young and, not particularly educated so they can't go to the interenet and write blogs, they can't join a student demonstration and they can't boycott anything as they don't have the financial clout to matter in the first place, they don't see any way that they can vent this frustration. You can ignore all this if you want, but don't complain when rioting occurs.

 

And how any football fan, who has been in contact with police with special powers to 'maintain public safety' can call on them to be given more power! Well that is just ridiculous.

 

find out why people feel the need to riot and remedy that, and there will be no looting or cars burning, but if you focus on stoping people from looting then you will find more and more riots will occur.

[Section_31]

Definitely, western society whilst still probably the best in the world, is slowly beginning to crumble.

 

And its not just as simple as made out, the shite has been slowly rolling downhill for 20/30 years now and its been the richest 1% at the top shitting on everyone else.

 

Correct.

 

People have been pandering this lazy shite for ages. Half the two-penny Tories I know only ever moan about either 'scroungers' or public sector pensions, all the while their own futures and their kids' futures are being stolen by the obscenely rich.

 

These kick offs are happening all over the world. People are rioting in London for the same reason they're rioting in Syria - and those involved don't even know it.

 

Let the world burn - it's shit anyway.

[Juniper]

 

middle class fool

 

Haha, ok Dennis.

[Section_31]

Because Bath, York, Cambridge are essentially filled with reasonably decent folk not criminal pond life.

There is a reason scum ends up living in a particular area. Thats because they are lazy bastards and cannot be arsed putting in the work that it takes to better yourself. It takes sacrifice to make a success of yourself. T

 

So the wealthy gravitate to Bath and York then? They're presumably all born in Brixton like the rest of us, but the ones with work ethic get a good job and all move to Bath? And the ones that are left behind are lazy? Is that it?

[Uncle_Meat]

Surely they're just following the good old Capitalist ideal. Find a weakness and exploit it for your own benefit. David Camerwrong should be proud....

 

 

Seriously though.. As much as I dig love and tolerance and all that tree-hugging stuff, I found myself watching some footage on BBC news before and just wishing that the coppers, or at least someone, would wade in there and stove their fucking heads in.

 

People depress me. Stick with cats. Cats, ponies, sheep, cows, whatever. Anything but fucking people.

[kelster]

Because Bath, York, Cambridge are essentially filled with reasonably decent folk not criminal pond life.

There is a reason scum ends up living in a particular area. Thats because they are lazy bastards and cannot be arsed putting in the work that it takes to better yourself. It takes sacrifice to make a success of yourself. T

 

So people born in these areas inherit a lazy gene that makes them criminal scum? It's a pretty interesting proposition, if a little controversial. But you must be right as I can't think of any other reason why people who live in these areas that suffer socio-economic deprivation don't coalesce to the leafy suburbs.

[Whelan]

This isn't a reaction to one of their mates getting shot, people are fed up of getting shit on!

 

Paying taxes, working hard, and working even hard for less and less, whilst every service and amenity gets cut so that we can continue offering tax cuts to the rich!

 

The ironic aspect of all this is going to come tomorrow when New International's newspapers, particularly the S*n take a moral stance! And the Express and their porn baron proprietor telling all and sundry how immigration is at fault.

[dennis tooth]

So Dennis. That building on the news now in Croydon. If that's a residential building, say with a 18 month old baby asleep upstairs, or in one of the neighbouring buildings, you going to support that. A martyr for the struggle?

 

Jog on, Knobend.

 

maybe you should go and see the NHS cuts killing babies or social services failing tortured babies day in day out because of cuts so bankers can have their bonuses upped. Dont fucking lecture me bellend, with 'If's.

 

Im a can of fucking worms of shit you dont even want to think about so put the tin opener down.

[Charles Penrose]

Tooth, you'd be up in arms if one of these scallies nicked your passport.

 

Dick.

[dennis tooth]

You're obviously joking Dennis, you aren't stupid.

 

No. No im totally serious.