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4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Besides which, if the British could have dropped an atom bomb on Berlin in 1941 and avoided four years of conflict would that have been wrong? Obviously not, in fact I've got a genuine erection just thinking about it. 

Still not cricket for me, mate.  

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In Bielefeld where I live they found another American Bomb yesterday. Safely diffused, a 500 kilo job. 700 hundred people evacuated and roads blocked for 3 hours, they find these on a regular basis. Thankfully all have been dealt with. 

 

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58 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

I've seen one or two documentaries that say there was a major split in the higher echelons of the Japanese power base and they may just have surrendered very soon. That said something had to be done and it was a case of amount of japanese civilians versus US troop deaths mounting an invasion and it was always going to be the latter. The comment Lee says about it also being done to stop the Soviets invading Japan is an accurate one,I believe.

Japan knew she was defeated. However, the Army command felt they could secure a conditional surrender. The allies wanted an unconditional surrender. Showing the Soviets the weapon was a by product of the decision to use it, not the reason for it.

 

The Army still refused to surrender after the two bombs. It was the Emperor's decision in the end.

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And even after his surrender there was a coup attempt to force a continuation of war. The Japanese high command had been out of control since the early 30s. I honestly Hirohito would have started a war. But he was happily left along while it went well and happy at the territory increase 

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