Rise of the far right in Europe.

[Anubis]

http://www.thelocal.fr/20151202/french-town-sets-up-volunteer-force

 

 

Far-right French mayor sets up volunteer force

 

The Local/AFP · 2 Dec 2015, 11:07

 

 

A controversial French mayor said on Tuesday he was setting up a volunteer force to patrol his town while the national state of emergency remains in force following the attacks on Paris.

 

Robert Menard, who has been accused of turning Beziers in the southwest into a "laboratory of the far-right", urged former soldiers and police officers to join his "Beziers Guard".

 

"France is living through difficult times and it is in that context that I asked myself how we could reinforce security and help the local and national police," Menard told reporters.

 

Local police union leader Bruno Bartocetti said it was "worrying that volunteers were being put into uniform... Even if this is an exceptional situation, we should let the professionals do their work.

 

"It proves that Robert Menard does not have enough men on the ground while he boasts about the efficiency of his police," he added, in a reference to posters of 7.65-calibre handguns the mayor put up across the town earlier this year reading "Police officers have a new friend."

 

The poster appealing for volunteers to patrol the streets during the state of emergency, introduced after the jihadist attacks on Paris last month, features the town's cathedral of Saint-Nazaire.

 

Last week Menard, the outspoken founder of the international journalists' group Reporters Without Borders (RSF), who is close to the far-right National Front (FN), demanded that the town's mosques sign a charter to only preach in French.

 

Menard has previously blocked new kebab shops in Beziers' historic centre.

 

The mayor, who said the first patrols would begin Thursday, has already imposed an 11:00pm curfew on minors in the picturesque but poverty-stricken town and also banned washing being hung from balconies.

 

His call for recruits set off a storm on social networks with several Twitter users volunteering - mostly tongue-in-cheek - to join.

 

One, Karim Boukercha, joked: "I did my national citizen's service and judo in third class, can I join your militia?"

 

Another, Gilles Gautheron, tweeted, "My grandfather was a member of the militia under Vichy, can I come with his uniform?"

 

Militia is a highly charged term in France which evokes memories of the Nazi Occupation during World War II, when the collaborationist Vichy regime armed its supporters to fight the French Resistance.

 

The French government imposed a three-month state of emergency following the attacks on Paris. The measures include bans on public demonstrations.

[mattyq]

What a shame they went full blown retard

Tis lovely, Beziers

[Rico1304]

What a shame they went full blown retard

Tis lovely, Beziers

It's Stockports twin town, I went when I was 15. Probably my fault.

[Bjornebye]

Luton. Now thats a den of cunts. 

[mattyq]

It's Stockports twin town, I went when I was 15. Probably my fault.

Fucking Hell, mate

You should stick to blowing C listers on the train

Murdering grannies and fomenting Nazis in the south of France isn't great

[Rico1304]

Cunt, he's a b- lister.

 

Oh and far right fucking hammered in the French elections 1 month after a terrorist attack. Maybe it's not so fucking bad. Or America rigged the vote.

[Anubis]

That doesn't really tell the full story though. The Socialists withdrew their candidates in two of the three areas the National Front were contesting, and asked their voters to vote for Sarkozy's republicans to stop the NF.

[cloggypop]

Geert Wilders is busy endorsing Donald Trump over here in the Netherlands. They have been brought together by a love of terrible hair and a hatred of others.

 

[Rico1304]

That doesn't really tell the full story though. The Socialists withdrew their candidates in two of the three areas the National Front were contesting, and asked their voters to vote for Sarkozy's republicans to stop the NF.

I don't get it, more people voted against than for = win. America again?

[Anubis]

You do get it. You're just being deliberately obtuse. May as well put that down to America as well, eh?

[Section_31]

Far right protests on the streets of Germany and Mein Kampf has sold out its new print run over there. 

 

Who's up for a pre emptive strike?

 

[Mook]

It's going to kick off in Germany, I haven't seen much about it on here but the attacks on women on the 31st December in Cologne (amongst other places) are exactly what these far right groups want.

[stringvest]

What a shame they went full blown retard

Tis lovely, Beziers

 

it is.

[s(k)aturation]

We need a far Left counter-offer.

Bring back Stalin.

At least, technically, Marx's manifesto was "humanitarian".

Mao, Pol Pot... all good "theorists".

Cared a lot about the proletariat.

The socialist, "far Right" tendency towards mass murdering megalomania is but a glitch.

All good in theory though.

 

Cunts at both extremes is the answer.

The balance of power and all that...

[Section_31]

We need a far Left counter-offer.

Bring back Stalin.

At least, technically, Marx's manifesto was "humanitarian".

Mao, Pol Pot... all good "theorists".

Cared a lot about the proletariat.

The socialist, "far Right" tendency towards mass murdering megalomania is but a glitch.

All good in theory though.

 

Cunts at both extremes is the answer.

The balance of power and all that...

 

 

I think people are by and large simple and meak folk and prone to being overwhelmed by the desires and views of extremists. They want safety, shelter, prosperity. The right and the left can both in theory offer this to them depending on the circumstances, but tend to be perverted for their own means by people of dubious character. This goes for socialism, communism, conservatism, christianity, you name it - if people are involved, weak people will be drawn to it and strong, unscrupulous people will exploit them. 

[s(k)aturation]

I think people are by and large simple and meak folk and prone to being overwhelmed by the desires and views of extremists. They want safety, shelter, prosperity. The right and the left can both in theory offer this to them depending on the circumstances, but tend to be perverted for their own means by people of dubious character. This goes for socialism, communism, conservatism, christianity, you name it - if people are involved, weak people will be drawn to it and strong, unscrupulous people will exploit them. 

 

Yep, exactly my lamely sarcastic point, M.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

It's going to kick off in Germany, I haven't seen much about it on here but the attacks on women on the 31st December in Cologne (amongst other places) are exactly what these far right groups want.

 

The far right groups have been making noise but just as many anti far right groups have been louder. The UK press and media have sensationalised it more than the Germans, picking what they want to use to paint a different picture, it takes the heat off the shit what goes on in the UK. I'm not saying these incidents have caused unrest but apart from Cologne (which the UK media have jumped on due to the police there fucking up) things are pretty much under control.

 

Here in Bielefeld where I live there was also a bit of bother as in Cologne on New Years Eve, but the Police sorted it out quickly. Last weekend far right groups congregated at the Bahnhof Viertel where this trouble had happened and caused more damage as they used their protest to use violence. This is also not main news where I got this info, my mate is an ex Criminal Police Officer (Kripo), his brother and my daughters boyfriends father are still serving with Kripo and say they are not surprised with the media running anti refugee stories. They themselves attend attacks on refugee camps/people on a daily basis, always late at night under the cover of darkness etc. I'm sure the BBC/ITV etc have deliberately ignored these facts as they cover the bits the UK Government want them to so as to back up their anti refugee stance. 

 

Things might come to a head as the far right use incidents to fuel fire etc, but as it stands at the moment there is no massive threat and the Police/Local council etc have things very much under control. 

[Mook]

Thanks for the info, I'd only been going on what I'd read online.

 

It did sound like the police in Cologne had made a right arse of it.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Thanks for the info, I'd only been going on what I'd read online.

 

It did sound like the police in Cologne had made a right arse of it.

 

No problems Mook. 

 

They did indeed, if you look at the list for the safest major Cities in Germany Cologne is pretty much near the bottom, it seems as far as crime goes their police force should be pretty much ashamed of themselves. Bielefeld where I live has been number one safest city for ages, and we have loads of mixed cultures and refugees within the City itself and surrounding areas. 

 

http://www.rp-online.de/panorama/die-sichersten-staedte-deutschlands-bid-1.566235

 

Poker time, hope I don't get attacked whilst I'm out and about. 

[Anubis]

Far right protests on the streets of Germany and Mein Kampf has sold out its new print run over there. 

 

Who's up for a pre-emptive strike?

 

 

I may finally get my wish to see a Tiger Tank in action.

[setreal]

Bielefeld where I live has been number one safest city for ages.

 

Surely that is - at least partially - a result of the mild scent of baking powder in the air?

[s(k)aturation]

Bielefeld where I live has been number one safest city for ages, and we have loads of mixed cultures and refugees within the City itself and surrounding areas. 

 

Poker time, hope I don't get attacked whilst I'm out and about. 

 

Nowt wrong with Bielers, G.

 

My other cousin owned a beautiful pub a ways across town from my cousin's hostelry at Sieiker-Mitte.

 

Complete with two-lane subterranean bowling alley. 

[Sugar Ape]

Let's be honest this refugee crisis is already causing uprest in Europe and it's only going to get a lot worse in my opinion. Sweden and Denmark are now imposing border checks on each other and Denmark has already got a right wing government and I wouldn't bet against Sweden going the same way too.

 

Just my opinion, and I know it won't be popular on here, but I think Merkel has been a disaster in all this. Saying all refugees are welcome has encouraged ever more people to try and make the dangerous journey here. I hate Cameron as much as anyone as should be known by anyone who reads any of my political posts but I think he has the right ' idea ' even though he should be expanding it. Taking refugees from camps where you can take the most vulnerable, orphaned children, the elderly, the sick etc... is the right way to go about things, but obviously he should be taking a lot more than 20,000 over five years.

 

This is just people who are coming in from the med, so not including Hungary etc... and there were over a million people last year alone just from that route, the majority of which are going to end up in Germany. The other EU countries won't even agree to relocate 160,000 equally across members. I can see this getting very ugly in a lot of countries soon.

 

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

[Section_31]

Let's be honest this refugee crisis is already causing uprest in Europe and it's only going to get a lot worse in my opinion. Sweden and Denmark are now imposing border checks on each other and Denmark has already got a right wing government and I wouldn't bet against Sweden going the same way too.

 

Just my opinion, and I know it won't be popular on here, but I think Merkel has been a disaster in all this. Saying all refugees are welcome has encouraged ever more people to try and make the dangerous journey here. I hate Cameron as much as anyone as should be known by anyone who reads any of my political posts but I think he has the right ' idea ' even though he should be expanding it. Taking refugees from camps where you can take the most vulnerable, orphaned children, the elderly, the sick etc... is the right way to go about things, but obviously he should be taking a lot more than 20,000 over five years.

 

This is just people who are coming in from the med, so not including Hungary etc... and there were over a million people last year alone just from that route, the majority of which are going to end up in Germany. The other EU countries won't even agree to relocate 160,000 equally across members. I can see this getting very ugly in a lot of countries soon.

 

http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.php

 

Agree with most of that. 

 

The issue with immigration is that it's skewed mainly towards young men. It's a survival of the fittest situation, the strongest and youngest will reach the west while the rest stay behind. Once those young men are there they're going to stick together, which in turn creates social tension. 

 

The fact we can't have discussions about any form of immigration, asylum etc is part of the problem - stifling debate is leading to frustrated on the fringes instead.

 

The ruling elite of Europe don't care about the fallout from immigration, neither do the top brass of Labour or even the Tories - I firmly believe Cameron et al doens't give two turds about immigration, he's just playing to his home team now that he's been outmaneuvered by UKIP on his right flank. 

 

Parachuting thousands, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of foreigners onto any population is going to cause strife, that's just a basic reality of human nature, it would be the same if you took loads of people from Birmingham and Newcastle and dropped them en mass in Manchester, it's not a racial thing - it's a human thing. 

[Jairzinho]

Agree with most of that. 

 

The issue with immigration is that it's skewed mainly towards young men. It's a survival of the fittest situation, the strongest and youngest will reach the west while the rest stay behind. Once those young men are there they're going to stick together, which in turn creates social tension. 

 

The fact we can't have discussions about any form of immigration, asylum etc is part of the problem - stifling debate is leading to frustrated on the fringes instead.

 

The ruling elite of Europe don't care about the fallout from immigration, neither do the top brass of Labour or even the Tories - I firmly believe Cameron et al doens't give two turds about immigration, he's just playing to his home team now that he's been outmaneuvered by UKIP on his right flank. 

 

Parachuting thousands, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of foreigners onto any population is going to cause strife, that's just a basic reality of human nature, it would be the same if you took loads of people from Birmingham and Newcastle and dropped them en mass in Manchester, it's not a racial thing - it's a human thing. 

 

Aye, it simply doesn't effect them in the slightest. Their party donors want the cheap labour, it's a great scapegoat to use as divide and conquer propaganda, and they're not arsed what happens mid/long term economically or socially. And since they control the message it's not as if they'll be scrutinised about it all that much anyway.

 

I'd imagine Merkel is much the same. Her interests will be Deutsche Bank and dickslapping Latin Europe.