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Rise of the far right in Europe.


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1 hour ago, Pidge said:

What's the context for the quote?  Is it referring to pre-war when the Nazis were looking for activists to seize the zeitgeist, or later when he was pretending to be best buds with big Joey?

 

It was from a speech that Hitler gave pre-war. 

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6 minutes ago, Boss said:

 

It was from a speech that Hitler gave pre-war. 

Thanks, I've just searched for it, seems to originate from a book by a Hermann Rauschning, from conversations he claims to have had with Hitler before leaving the party in 1934 and later the country.  It's authenticity appears to be disputed, but I don't know how convincingly. 

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5 hours ago, Boss said:

Hitler could be construed as a socialist. His socialism was racially based, as opposed to class based. 

 

 

In the same way that my arse could be construed as a pineapple.  There is no such thing as "racially based Socialism " or any Socialism that isn't class based.

 

Hitler and his goons had Socialists locked up and killed, because he quite rightly recognised that Socialists were his enemies. 

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4 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

In the same way that my arse could be construed as a pineapple.  There is no such thing as "racially based Socialism " or any Socialism that isn't class based.

 

 

Fair play for even challenging his statement. I shook my head and left the thread. 

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39 minutes ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

In the same way that my arse could be construed as a pineapple.  There is no such thing as "racially based Socialism " or any Socialism that isn't class based.

 

Hitler and his goons had Socialists locked up and killed, because he quite rightly recognised that Socialists were his enemies. 

He had socialists locked up and killed because he hated Marxism, but a lot of the entrants into Nazism in the 20's and early 30's were formerly radical leftists. The name National Socialist Workers Party was not ironic. They did see themselves as Nationalist Socialists.

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5 minutes ago, Boss said:

He had socialists locked up and killed because he hated Marxism, but a lot of the entrants into Nazism in the 20's and early 30's were formerly radical leftists. The name National Socialist Workers Party was not ironic. They did see themselves as Nationalist Socialists.

To help a country rebuild itself. Once he got his power his ideologies changed dramatically. When people say 'Hitler' you don't think of a Socialist trying to rebuild a country. You think of him as the disgusting human being him and his party ended up being. 

 

You know that though Boss and comparing him and Corbyn is fucking ridiculous. Thatcher was closer to Hitler than Corbyn ever will be. 

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Hitler was such a socialist that the Nazi privatised every single industry except for war as soon as they gained they gained power. He was such a socialist the state gassed the poor and disabled, as opposed to support them.

 

The closest we have to Hitler in the UK at the moment is probably Nigel Farage much that it’s hard for you accept Boss.

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33 minutes ago, Boss said:

He had socialists locked up and killed because he hated Marxism, but a lot of the entrants into Nazism in the 20's and early 30's were formerly radical leftists. The name National Socialist Workers Party was not ironic. They did see themselves as Nationalist Socialists.

 

But the socialist element was essentially eliminated during the Night of the Long Knives. 

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1 hour ago, Sixtimes Dog said:

 

But the socialist element was essentially eliminated during the Night of the Long Knives. 

True. Rohm was a National Socialist. He took the workers side in trade disputes and supported pickets. He wanted a second revolution based on the redistribution of wealth. That was the original plan. The SA was filled with socialist worker types. Rohm wanted to take over the German army which had 100,000 soldiers. I think the SA had something like 2,000,000 members.

 

Hitler liked Rohm, and he was one of the only people who could call him Adolf, but he was too revolutionary. He was hated by the German Army. Hitler did pardon him initially but ended up killing him. It was a National Socialist movement up until 1934 though.

 

 

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15 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

To help a country rebuild itself. Once he got his power his ideologies changed dramatically. When people say 'Hitler' you don't think of a Socialist trying to rebuild a country. You think of him as the disgusting human being him and his party ended up being. 

 

You know that though Boss and comparing him and Corbyn is fucking ridiculous. Thatcher was closer to Hitler than Corbyn ever will be. 

You know she would probably have approved of you saying that. Although I don't really have an interest in politics even I know that this woman was evil.

 

 

 

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