Stabbing burglars 'will be legal'

[Hermes]

To my mind, the ridiculous extremes of leniency and overreaction Clark has shown of late with regard to, respectively, crimes against the person (ie, rape) and crimes against property perfectly exemplify the fucked up perspective of the average Tory. It's grab and hold whatever I can and fuck everyone else.

 

Are you both a burglar and a rapist?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I think the current law is pretty adequate.

[King Emlyn]

I think the current law is pretty adequate.

It is.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I think the current law is pretty adequate.

 

This.

 

The law has always been clear. You are allowed to use reasonable force, purely to defend yourself, not to exact some sort of vigilante justice. Hence the reason why Tony Martin was, rightly, prosecuted.

 

The recent "clarification" of the law by Kenneth Clarke has not clarified anything. It's politicking of the highest order by the Conservatives. They have simply jumped onto a contemporary issue thats in the news and made some loose worded declaration, not policy, to try and create an impression they are up to scratch on current issues affecting the population.

[zigackly]

What realm do these people live in. 'Hit him with a poker'. How many people have a poker these days.

 

I will be off to get one first thing in the morning now I know about this.

[King Emlyn]

This.

 

The law has always been clear. You are allowed to use reasonable force, purely to defend yourself, not to exact some sort of vigilante justice. Hence the reason why Tony Martin was, rightly, prosecuted.

 

The recent "clarification" of the law by Kenneth Clarke has not clarified anything. It's politicking of the highest order by the Conservatives. They have simply jumped onto a contemporary issue thats in the news and made some loose worded declaration, not policy, to try and create an impression they are up to scratch on current issues affecting the population.

Correct. You could always "stab a burglar" anyway so long as you can justify it. That farmer shot the burglar in the back as he was fleeing as I recall. You can't be doing that. No, the law as it stands is fine. The problems I have with the law start when the burglar is caught.

[VladimirIlyich]

Could you rape them?

 

You'd shag an 80 year old woman? sick

[The King]

what the fuck is wrong with defending your family & property?

 

you going to strike over this as well?

 

fuck me.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

what the fuck is wrong with defending your family & property?

 

Nothing is wrong with it, as the law stands. What is your point?

[VladimirIlyich]

Critics have said the law is fine as it is and this stupid statement just muddy's the waters even more.

 

But your honour,........I was very,very,dwunk.'

[The King]

Nothing is wrong with it, as the law stands. What is your point?

 

as the law stands - you stand quite a large chance of going down for a considerable amount of time for it.

 

thats what, dont tell me all the reasonable force bollocks.

 

today's pc cunting bollocks means it's always going to be the wrongun burglar who gets favoured because of the stress of bruising to his lock-thieving hands or some shit.

 

meaning he can't work/steal for a living any more.

 

fuck me this country is full of mongs.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

as the law stands - you stand quite a large chance of going down for a considerable amount of time for it.

 

What is 'it'?

 

thats what, dont tell me all the reasonable force bollocks.

 

today's pc cunting bollocks means it's always going to be the wrongun burglar who gets favoured because of the stress of bruising to his lock-thieving hands or some shit.

 

meaning he can't work/steal for a living any more.

 

fuck me this country is full of mongs.

 

Oh, you're clearly just that stupid prick who comes back from time to time championing vigilante justice. Have fun.

[King Emlyn]

as the law stands - you stand quite a large chance of going down for a considerable amount of time for it.

 

thats what, dont tell me all the reasonable force bollocks.

 

today's pc cunting bollocks means it's always going to be the wrongun burglar who gets favoured because of the stress of bruising to his lock-thieving hands or some shit.

 

meaning he can't work/steal for a living any more.

 

fuck me this country is full of mongs.

 

Aint that the truth

[The King]

"it" is clearly is fucking the issue at hand & current point of debate you trotsky lover - defending your property.

 

as you said in your original post

 

Originally Posted by Número Veinticinco

Nothing is wrong with it, as the law stands. What is your point?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

"it" is clearly is fucking the issue at hand & current point of debate you trotsky lover - defending your property.

 

as you said in your original post

 

Originally Posted by Número Veinticinco

Nothing is wrong with it, as the law stands. What is your point?

 

I just wanted you to clarify, that's all. You're wrong, by the way. You don't 'stand quite a large chance of going down for a considerable amount of time for' 'defending your family & property'. You're perfectly able to defend your family and your property.

 

As for being a 'trotsky lover', I'm not convinced you have any clue what that actually means. As with most other things you've posted in the past, you're just parroting what your BNP, Nazi mates are saying.

[VladimirIlyich]

It sounds like a S*n reader has escaped and posted on here!

 

Trotsky lover? I havent heard that since the 80's,lol.

[The King]

Just wanted you to clarify. You're wrong. You don't 'stand quite a large chance of going down for a considerable amount of time for' 'defending your family & property'.

 

As for being a 'trotsky (sic) lover', I'm not convinced you have any clue what that actually means. As with most other things you've posted in the past, you're just parroting what your BNP, Nazi mates are saying.

 

what if you/your partner are not strong enough to use the force of your hands only?

 

what happens then? you get everything stolen and/or you/family member subjected to rape?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

It sounds like a S*n reader has escaped and posted on here!

 

Trotsky lover? I havent heard that since the 80's,lol.

 

I get called it a bit, you know. I've been called many things in my time: Thatcherite, Blairite, Brownite, Bennite, Bevanite, Bennite, Communist, Capitalist, Socialist, Cunt, Nationalist, Globalist, Nazi... only a couple of those are really true!

[Guest TK-421]

Clarke's words were deeply irresponsible and almost criminal, like incitement to kill. It's law making without a mandate. Booooo.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

what if you/your partner are not strong enough to use the force of your hands only?

 

If the situation calls for it, you can use a weapon. Any weapon, including a gun for a fatal shot. If the situation calls for it. You're not interested in that though, are you? You want to kill somebody for robbing your kettle.

 

what happens then? you get everything stolen and/or you/family member subjected to rape?

 

Yes, that's right. The law says you must be raped.

[The King]

I have two very strong views

 

1) you should live to your means and not rely on the majority of others for support.

2) you should be able to defend what is yours with whatever force is necessary

 

How is either of those being a nazi?

[VladimirIlyich]

Wish it was legal to stab tories.

[Sugar Ape]

I get called it a bit, you know. I've been called many things in my time: Thatcherite, Blairite, Brownite, Bennite, Bevanite, Bennite, Communist, Capitalist, Socialist, Cunt, Nationalist, Globalist, Nazi... only a couple of those are really true!

 

Which of those are true NV you Nazi cunt?

[The King]

If the situation calls for it, you can use a weapon. Any weapon, including a gun for a fatal shot. If the situation calls for it. You're not interested in that though, are you? You want to kill somebody for robbing your kettle.

 

 

 

Yes, that's right. The law says you must be raped.

 

damn fucking right someone nicks my mrs kettle they are getting pistol whipped.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Which of those are true NV you Nazi cunt?

 

Bennite and Bennite, maybe?