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20 hours ago, Bjornebye said:


It’s properly batshit. Since 9/11 it’s been headcase central. Obama offered some stability to an extent but even from 2016 onwards the world has been one long dark comedy.
 

I’d say it all really started with Robin Williams passing away. As soon as the world reset a bit from the loss it was a much more evil place. Trump, Johnson, Truss, Putin, Netenyahu etc all with more power than they should ever be afforded. I’d be giving them one aaa battery a time at best. 

I think people could sense it coming, hence voting in Obama in the hope that he’d offer some solutions to the growing inequality and lunacy. Instead he turned into a brilliant after dinner speaker and did fuck all of lasting consequence. 

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3 minutes ago, bossy said:

I think people could sense it coming, hence voting in Obama in the hope that he’d offer some solutions to the growing inequality and lunacy. Instead he turned into a brilliant after dinner speaker and did fuck all of lasting consequence. 


I think he stabilised some stuff but the world saw that things that needed doing weren’t something a “president” could do because they’re just the face of the brand. 

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14 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:


I think he stabilised some stuff but the world saw that things that needed doing weren’t something a “president” could do because they’re just the face of the brand. 

Possibly/probably. I know I was disappointed in his ‘change’ mantra that felt hollow about half way through his first term. I wish he was still their bloody president though. 

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22 hours ago, Section_31 said:

You kind of forget about it sometimes, how mad it is, that there's essentially someone with the mental aptitude of a four year old spoiled dunce in the White House.

 

Imagine having a time machine and coming froward from 1998, I'd argue the peak of western civilisation. You'd never believe it.

 

I don't think it's a shock. I remember as a teenager watching spitting image and the whole "the presidents brain is missing" about Reagan. That was way before they knew he had Alzheimer's. They followed that up not long later electing that complete moron Bush junior. We've had our own, by electing another man boy to a landslide with Johnson. The longer I'm alive, the more I'm realising the vast majority of people don't vote for anything they want, they just vote against what they don't want. 

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2 hours ago, bossy said:

I think people could sense it coming, hence voting in Obama in the hope that he’d offer some solutions to the growing inequality and lunacy. Instead he turned into a brilliant after dinner speaker and did fuck all of lasting consequence. 

 The public healthcare is named after him. 

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21 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

I don't think it's a shock. I remember as a teenager watching spitting image and the whole "the presidents brain is missing" about Reagan. That was way before they knew he had Alzheimer's. They followed that up not long later electing that complete moron Bush junior. We've had our own, by electing another man boy to a landslide with Johnson. The longer I'm alive, the more I'm realising the vast majority of people don't vote for anything they want, they just vote against what they don't want. 

 

I wonder if there's a bit of this that can be accredited to reality television.

 

A vote used to be a sacred right of citizens to exercise their democratic say every four or so years.

 

Nowadays, we are asked to vote nearly every day.  And our vote is usually based on personality rather than capability.

 

I'm sure there's a decent doctorate study in there somewhere.

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6 hours ago, Anubis said:

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He’s fucking insane.

 

There is likely another layer to this, namely immigration control from South America. 

 

You all really do have to watch The Beast, a 45 minute Sky News documentary about immigrants trying to get through Mexico on their way to US. 

 

The US is already cosying up with Mexico to try and slow immigration down.  The deal is money/investment/trade deals/etc in exchange for police and army co-operation.  

The police there can make immigrants vanish, and they can certainly stop a train of immigrants and beat the shit out of them and rob them.  And they do.  

 

But it's still not working, the number of immigrants coming to Mexico  is growing all the time, and Mexico is a big ass country.  

 

My guess here, is that Panama is being identified as the key to controlling immigration from South America.  Trump knows he can't take the Panama Canal, he's not stupid, but he wants Panama to co-operate on policing immigrants.  If that means he'll carry on paying the tariffs and stop threatening not to, or worse, then that might be enough. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

By the way, after watching The Beast I'm starting to understand Trump's focus on immigration and agree with harsh measures. 

 

That wasn't the point of the docco, they were trying to make me feel sorry for them, but it just makes me uncomfortable.  

 

 

 

Maga/tea party is essentially any anti immigration movement. They fear the changing demographic of the states into predominantly non white/non protestant. Having a black president obviously exacerbated their concerns. 

 

The parallels with nazism are clear. A figurehead leader who can rouse a mob, but the funders and backers in the early days were industrialists who were worried about the rise of communism in Germany.

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14 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I've decided to boycott American goods for the next four years, I'll be drinking only Irish whisky and scotch instead of my preferred bourbon. I'll also not be listening to any country music.


Life without Dolly Parton will be a dark and lonely place. 

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1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

 

Maga/tea party is essentially any anti immigration movement. They fear the changing demographic of the states into predominantly non white/non protestant. Having a black president obviously exacerbated their concerns. 

 

The parallels with nazism are clear. A figurehead leader who can rouse a mob, but the funders and backers in the early days were industrialists who were worried about the rise of communism in Germany.

 

There's actual economic and social issues with excessive immigration, you can't ignore that.  

 

Their child is ancillary to their personal ambition of reaching America.  

 

Young women get pregnant to try and enter America because if they do get over the border then America will care for pregnant women and deliver the baby and it becomes an American citizen and the mother gets 14 years of automatic rights to stay.  

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37 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Young women get pregnant to try and enter America 

It is one of the most talked about "priorities" of the incoming admin - Ramsawamy and Musk can't shut the fuck up about it.

 

Today:

President-elect Donald Trump’s team is assessing multiple options to fulfill his long-promised pledge to end birthright citizenship, according to two sources familiar with the discussions, teeing up a legal fight with the expectation that the Supreme Court would ultimately have to rule on the matter.

Trump has railed against birthright citizenship, which is protected by the 14th Amendment, for years and suggested he’d use executive action to ban it.

 

About three dozen countries provide automatic citizenship to people born on their soil, including US neighbors Canada and Mexico and the majority of South American countries.

 

Legal experts remain confident that birthright citizenship will remain even with a right-leaning Supreme Court that has shown willingness to overturn longstanding precedents on other issues, such as on abortion rights or regulatory power.

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