Donald Trump

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Is this the same situation as Starmer (so we're told) needing to guzzle Murdoch's dusty spooge in order to win?

Yeah actually. We both know what he had to maintain the status quo with. 

[Gooch]

3 minutes ago, MacsBurstNads said:

Boris Johnson hid in a fridge. 

Whats Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge got to do with Kemala Harris and the US election?

[3 Stacks]

1 hour ago, Rushies tash said:

 

In fairness, I've never really heard politicians calling them thick, just people online. Also, them lacking intelligence and needing to address their reasons for voting the way they do aren't mutually exclusive. Both can be, and are, true. As you say, it takes alot of unravelling and I'm not sure that this incarnation of Labour are capable of doing it.

Hillary Clinton said Trump voters were "deplorables" in 2016, which is basically political speak for dumb ugly cunts.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Gooch said:

Whats Boris Johnson hiding in a fridge got to do with Kemala Harris and the US election?

I was pointing out that Boris Johnson hid in a fridge. I doubt that a serious candidate for president would or should be arsed about a Joe Rogan podcast. I don’t think Kamala Harris is the answer but I’d take Kamala the wrestler over Trump. 
 

 

[The wanderer]

6 hours ago, Gooch said:

Harris hasn't run from these opportunities, she's been protected from them because she's an absolute lightweight with no beliefs in anything. People forget this is the same person who got torpedoed out of the primary in 2020 very early. She's only in the position she's in currently through circumstance nothing more.

Put forward to become presidential candidate without going through the normal electoral procedure. A big mistake by the dems . I don’t think she would have been a winning candidate if the y had a run off.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I’ll give Trump credit for his trash talk. His ability to “weave” when telling a tale is a filibusting masterclass. Never witnessed anything like it.
 

Still an hour left and there’s nothing about his plans or facts and figures (I think that is why Jamie isn’t fact checking or they’ve agreed not to keep him talking). He’s good with key words that cut through to voters. And obviously taking credit for everything. 
 

Rogan(albeit gently) tries to pin him down but he’s not an interviewer, he’s a conversationalist. If Harris does go on, I think she should and needs to, she could convince a lot of people who are unsure as she’d show herself to be more human than just being a presidential candidate preaching to the converted and answering to set questions.

 

 

 

 

 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

 

Tremendous. 

[Section_31]

It's mad how Democrat candidates are held to higher standards though, Hilary Clinton, Harris and the likes labelled lightweight, meanwhile there's been three Republican presidents in my lifetime, Reagan, Bush Jnr and Trump who were actually, certifiably retarded. 

 

"Harris stands for nothing so ill vote for the man who holds a bible upside down and back to front while US citizens and press are being teargassed 100 feet away."

[Skidfingers McGonical]

23 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

It's mad how Democrat candidates are held to higher standards though, Hilary Clinton, Harris and the likes labelled lightweight, meanwhile there's been three Republican presidents in my lifetime, Reagan, Bush Jnr and Trump who were actually, certifiably retarded. 

 

"Harris stands for nothing so ill vote for the man who holds a bible upside down and back to front while US citizens and press are being teargassed 100 feet away."

While you are right, the Dems should never have put either of them forward. Also, the Dems and Labour claim to be the saviours of all things centre right to far right leaning, and they never are really. For the 46 years I have been on this planet, it’s been run by The Republicans and the Tories for the majority of that time. It’s ingrained into society that we hold them to a higher standard because they should be changing things, but they don’t because they don’t really represent me and you, they represent big multi corporations first, then maybe they’ll throw us a little tasty moral to keep us quiet for a while. 

 

You’ve also got to remember that we shouldn’t really be expecting others to behave, act, vote like we would because that’s an unrealistic expectation. 
 

If people feel they aren’t being treated fairly by their government after they go to work all week and pay their fair share they are gonna want change. We’ve been doing it for 14 years, and a lot of us (if not all) on here (and around the country) are aware that Red and Blue are the same shit just covered in different glitter.

 

I tend to ignore a lot of what the “digital world” says or does because of the tech infiltration of bots (remember Cambridge Analytica anyone) and to me, it’s not the real world. Even here, do 100% of us portray our true character to the fullest or do we use it as a place to express our feelings because we are afraid to in public in fear of being lambasted for an opinion that others don’t agree with. I know I go into “character” mode at times on something I may not agree with or someone’s internet persona I don’t like. 
 

I’ve got to the point where I just look to understand why people act the way they do. Rather than slag them off (still working on it mind) Calling someone thick because they vote opposite to what we do is not helpful. We don’t know deep down what their life has been like for them to get to the position they are. That phrase, “never judge a man till you’ve a walked 1000 miles in his moccasins” springs to mind. But, we’re a judgemental bunch of fuckers aren’t we?

 

 

 

[Jack the Sipper]

Trump ran from/was protected from another debate with Harris after the hiding he took in the first one. That's a bigger deal than not doing a fucking podcast with Joe Rogan. What is Rogan's constituency anyway? From what I know, it's predominately male, veers to the right and is sympathetic to conspiracy theories, which Rogan is happy to play on with the guests he has on and his own claims about the CIA's role in the insurrection of Jan 6th.

 

The idea that Harris would be given a fair ride from a man with his views on a show catering to a right-wing audience, and who makes no claims to being a professional interviewer or journalist is laughable.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

9 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

Trump ran from/was protected from another debate with Harris after the hiding he took in the first one. That's a bigger deal than not doing a fucking podcast with Joe Rogan. What is Rogan's constituency anyway? From what I know, it's predominately male, veers to the right and is sympathetic to conspiracy theories, which Rogan is happy to play on with the guests he has on and his own claims about the CIA's role in the insurrection of Jan 6th.

 

The idea that Harris would be given a fair ride from a man with his views on a show catering to a right-wing audience, and who makes no claims to being a professional interviewer or journalist is laughable.

I reckon she would he given a fair ride. He’s had Bernie on. He’s had 100’s of female guests on. He’s not Fox News. Plus whether someone took a hiding in a debate is subjective isn’t it? I mean we see loads of goons online saying “X person gets destroyed by X person” and it’s never ever the truth. 

 

This interview with Trump has had 25+ million views in 1 day. That’s phenomenal exposure and MSM would never ever get close to this figures. 

 

 

 

[Jack the Sipper]

16 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I reckon she would he given a fair ride. He’s had Bernie on. He’s had 100’s of female guests on. He’s not Fox News.

 

This interview with Trump has had 25+ million views in 1 day. That’s phenomenal exposure and MSM would never ever get close to this figures. 

 

 

 

 

Well, I don't think she would have. And I don't think Sanders would have if he was up against Trump with two weeks until the election. I don't think he's impartial, I don't think his audience has any interest in him being impartial, and given his lack of training, I don't think he could be impartial even if he wanted to be. 

 

The guy promotes insurrection conspiracy theories and used to do the same with Covid 19 until Spotify, who pay him, gave him a slap for it.

 

You talk about the figures, but what about the soundbites that are replayed endlessly, all over news networks worldwide and social media? After the last and only debate, I could hardly avoid mention of the talking points? This? I'm having to search them out. And what about the credibility side of Trump chickening out? 

[Bjornebye]

He platforms lunatics. I was the POTUS not to be a lunatic. 

[Captain Turdseye]

Fantastic puff piece here. 
 

 

 

One of the talking heads is some yappy little twat that once won American Idol. Endorsements don’t get much better than that. Make America Great Again. 

[stringvest]

32 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I reckon she would he given a fair ride. He’s had Bernie on. He’s had 100’s of female guests on. He’s not Fox News. Plus whether someone took a hiding in a debate is subjective isn’t it? I mean we see loads of goons online saying “X person gets destroyed by X person” and it’s never ever the truth. 

 

This interview with Trump has had 25+ million views in 1 day. That’s phenomenal exposure and MSM would never ever get close to this figures. 

 

 

 

Absolutely no way would he have been impartial.  He’s a conspiracy theorist. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

20 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

Well, I don't think she would have. And I don't think Sanders would have if he was up against Trump with two weeks until the election. I don't think he's impartial, I don't think his audience has any interest in him being impartial, and given his lack of training, I don't think he could be impartial even if he wanted to be. 

 

The guy promotes insurrection conspiracy theories and used to do the same with Covid 19 until Spotify, who pay him, gave him a slap for it.

 

You talk about the figures, but what about the soundbites that are replayed endlessly, all over news networks worldwide and social media? After the last and only debate, I could hardly avoid mention of the talking points? This? I'm having to search them out. And what about the credibility side of Trump chickening out? 

Bernie did it in his run for nomination in 2020. Doesn’t matter whether it was 2 years or 2 weeks before. 
 

I take it you haven’t watched much of Rogan’s conversations, he doesn’t promote, he discusses. He didn’t get a slap on the wrist from Spotify (the owner was in support of him) it was when the community note/comments about Covid 19 were added on those platforms to bring balance. And Rogan was all for it as he even said himself he was getting things wrong. 
 

If Rogan was as bad as you and others say (he’s far from perfect) would the likes of Brian Cox, Louis Theroux go on and develop a friendship with him? 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

1 minute ago, stringvest said:

Absolutely no way would he have been impartial.  He’s a conspiracy theorist. 

Well, we’ll see won’t we. Is he any less impartial from the likes of Fox, CNN, Sky, BBC? 

[stringvest]

1 minute ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Well, we’ll see won’t we. Is he any less impartial from the likes of Fox, CNN, Sky, BBC? 

No, yes, no, yes

[Skidfingers McGonical]

2 minutes ago, stringvest said:

No, yes, no, yes

Nice to see someone calling the BBC impartial on here. Apparently they are a Tory propaganda machine. 

[Vincent Vega]

38 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I reckon she would he given a fair ride. He’s had Bernie on. He’s had 100’s of female guests on. He’s not Fox News. Plus whether someone took a hiding in a debate is subjective isn’t it? I mean we see loads of goons online saying “X person gets destroyed by X person” and it’s never ever the truth. 

 

This interview with Trump has had 25+ million views in 1 day. That’s phenomenal exposure and MSM would never ever get close to this figures. 

 

 

 

I think you’re over-egging the importance of Rogan’s podcast Skidders. You say its had 25m listeners, but I would bet that 95% of them will be either Trump or Rogan fanboys anyway, I can’t see that this will change anybody’s mind. At the last election Biden got over 81m votes, and Trump himself got over 74m votes, so 25m is less than a sixth of the people who voted last time. I just don’t see what Harris would have to gain from doing this podcast, I think 99% of minds are made up at this stage, why take the risk.

[Jack the Sipper]

14 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Bernie did it in his run for nomination in 2020. Doesn’t matter whether it was 2 years or 2 weeks before. 
 

I take it you haven’t watched much of Rogan’s conversations, he doesn’t promote, he discusses. He didn’t get a slap on the wrist from Spotify (the owner was in support of him) it was when the community note/comments about Covid 19 were added on those platforms to bring balance. And Rogan was all for it as he even said himself he was getting things wrong. 
 

If Rogan was as bad as you and others say (he’s far from perfect) would the likes of Brian Cox, Louis Theroux go on and develop a friendship with him? 

 

It's pretty futile discussing whether or not Rogan would've given Harris a fair crack. You think he would have, I've said he wouldn't and given reasons why. 

 

I'm not sure why you think she's harmed her chances by not going on his show either. Do you think she can be accused of bottling out, in the same way that Trump was when he refused another debate? Do you think that harmed his chances? Why do you think he was happy to go on his show having refused other debates and interviews?

 

Do you think Rogan's audience were ready to be persuaded by Harris's arguments? What did she have to gain by appearing on his show, exactly? More viewers (even ignoring the massive reach of those soundbite replays I mentioned earlier) just means more opportunities to see him to goad and antagonise her. 

[Bjornebye]

Fuck Joe Rogan. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

12 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

I think you’re over-egging the importance of Rogan’s podcast Skidders. You say its had 25m listeners, but I would bet that 95% of them will be either Trump or Rogan fanboys anyway, I can’t see that this will change anybody’s mind. At the last election Biden got over 81m votes, and Trump himself got over 74m votes, so 25m is less than a sixth of the people who voted last time. I just don’t see what Harris would have to gain from doing this podcast, I think 99% of minds are made up at this stage, why take the risk.

I think it shows that MSM short sound bite model isn’t that great anymore and people of all ages,are becoming more and more distrustful of it.

 

Also, it’s presumptious that that such a high percentage will be fanboys of Rogan or Trump, not all of Rogan’s fan base are men. A lot of women watching every night of the week. He’s hot 18M subscribers on YouTube, plus it’ll be on Spotify as well and the thee podcast platforms. Those are going to be huge numbers and not across those platforms will he fans of both of them. 
 

I watch him sporadically these days as his guests aren’t as interesting to me as they use to be and a hearing someone constantly talk about MMA without prompt by the guest is irritating. 
 

I’ve just finished it and Trump, he’s like Code on the *f back in the day. 

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I think it shows that MSM short sound bite model isn’t that great anymore and people of all ages,are becoming more and more distrustful of it.

 

Also, it’s presumptious that that such a high percentage will be fanboys of Rogan or Trump, not all of Rogan’s fan base are men. A lot of women watching every night of the week. He’s hot 18M subscribers on YouTube, plus it’ll be on Spotify as well and the thee podcast platforms. Those are going to be huge numbers and not across those platforms will he fans of both of them. 
 

I watch him sporadically these days as his guests aren’t as interesting to me as they use to be and a hearing someone constantly talk about MMA without prompt by the guest is irritating. 
 

I’ve just finished it and Trump, he’s like Code on the *f back in the day. 

Back in the day?!!!!!! 
 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Does Trump come out of it looking well. I dont care either way the Americans will choose who they choose and the world will keep spinning.