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13 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I never said that. I said her not going on Rogan will. 
 

If she was good as they say she is, she’d be able to go on anywhere and hold her own on anything Trump goes on. 

 


 

 

 

You said "these type" and then used Schulz as the example, so you kinda did...

 

I don't think holding your own on comedians podcast to the same degree as a long-term Howard Stern guest is the best qualifier of statesmanship, personally. 

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3 minutes ago, Pidge said:

 

You said "these type" and then used Schulz as the example, so you kinda did...

 

I don't think holding your own on comedians podcast to the same degree as a long-term Howard Stern guest is the best qualifier of statesmanship, personally. 


Aye, I see what you’re saying. I meant big podcasts inviting you on in general that aren’t the crowd you don’t need to win over as much. 
 

Rogan is the biggest podcast out there. Gets more views than any news channel outlet and is very different to that cunt Stern’s show ever was and is. Longform without the soundbites and question restrictions her team have put in, would destroy her. 
 

I think the Dem’s have fucked this up again. And he’s going to win. 

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5 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:


Aye, I see what you’re saying. I meant big podcasts inviting you on in general that aren’t the crowd you don’t need to win over as much. 
 

Rogan is the biggest podcast out there. Gets more views than any news channel outlet and is very different to that cunt Stern’s show ever was and is. Longform without the soundbites and question restrictions her team have put in, would destroy her. 
 

I think the Dem’s have fucked this up again. And he’s going to win. 

 

Yeah you might be right, but I'm not sure about the last bit. I don't know who he's winning over.

 

But, hey, it's not my country so I don't really know shit, they're pretty good at turning a blind eye to all sorts of shit.

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It a very strange world where Joe Rogan holds such power. A weird, steroidal, does-his-own-research, UFC commentator who also claims to be a comedian, but history shows has never said anything remotely funny or interesting. This, this is the man who could bring about the end of democracy in the world's foremost superpower?

 

In a way, it's almost fitting. 

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What gets on my tits about the yanks is they spend decades cementing their status as world policeman, ensuring blighty has to have us airforce bases out the arse, assassinating progressive African and Latin American leaders, engineering nato around its own needs (our aircraft carriers were specifically designed for anti submarine helicopter warfare to protect their carrier battlegroups), then, one day, they say "ah fuck this, protect yourselves we're going back to bed."

 

We should just pump billions into the German military and just let them do what they do best.

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6 minutes ago, Pidge said:

 

Yeah you might be right, but I'm not sure about the last bit. I don't know who he's winning over.

 

But, hey, it's not my country so I don't really know shit, they're pretty good at turning a blind eye to all sorts of shit.


Rogan is still trying to get her on.

 

I’ve not finished this podcast (I don’t think Rogan is buying all of what he’s saying on it) started watching the UFC but there’s clip of them both talking about this. 
 

https://x.com/yashar/status/1850033372279734703?s=46&t=PwhHrO1toVvshRoo1wdiVA

 

 

 

 

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From BBC News

 

A few moments ago at Trump's rally in Novi, Michigan, a group of Arab and Muslim community leaders joined the former president on stage to endorse him and explain why they're backing him.

The largest Arab population in the US is in Dearborn, Michigan, not far from where Trump is speaking - and one of those on stage is the mayor of Dearborn.

They voiced their support for Trump and desire for peace in the Middle East, which they believe he can bring. Trump said the Muslim vote could help turn Michigan for him.

Both Harris and Trump have both been vying for support from Arab-Americans.

Some Arab voters, particularly in Dearborn, are frustrated with the Democratic Party, especially Biden and Harris, for what they perceive as a lack of support for Palestinians in the Middle East.

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33 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Yeah the republican party is well known for its love of Islam.

 

Thick as halal mince. 

Although, maybe the bigger issue is that the 'better' politicians etc fuck things up so much out of incompetence and having no initiative, that the right use it to reel in the gullible.

 

It feels like more of an own goal and absolutely avoidable. There's basically no point in any party as it stands. I do worry that they all really ARE the same, behind the image and branding they display.

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14 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

I don’t think the media will ever show you a Trump supporter who can do this as it doesn’t fit the narrative. 

The US media includes Fox and Newsmax.

In the UK I'm not convinced that there's any strict adherence to a "Trump voters are thick" narrative in the news media.

 

If there's a Trump supporter who can provide a rationale for it, they won't be silenced or suppressed on either side of the Atlantic.

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1 hour ago, TheSire said:

Although, maybe the bigger issue is that the 'better' politicians etc fuck things up so much out of incompetence and having no initiative, that the right use it to reel in the gullible.

 

It feels like more of an own goal and absolutely avoidable. There's basically no point in any party as it stands. I do worry that they all really ARE the same, behind the image and branding they display.

 

I'd imagine that's what quite a lot of Muslims in the States think. Some of it might be a fuck you vote. Ultimately self defeating like Brexit was for fisherman in Grimsby etc but the solution is just...stop aiding and abetting genocide.

 

 

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8 hours ago, 3 Stacks said:

I don't know much about politics, but it's just not a good idea to call people stupid. In the case of Trump voters, it's true, but it doesn't work to vote shame people. It just makes them dig in more, which is why politics are fucked up. My team vs your team, etc...

Indeed.  Calling Brexit voters thick worked a fucking treat in 2019.

 

For any serious political strategist, it must be worthwhile looking into the reasons why people would vote ,  against their own interests.  There's probably some that can be put down purely to stupidity - and there's fuck all you can do about their votes - but for others, with more complex motives, it would be useful to try to understand them.

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4 hours ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

There’s a very good chance this podcast could finish Harris off, it’s had 16 1/2 million views in 15 hours. I’m an hour in and he’s very different to the rallies. Still some bold claims still, and stuff I can’t work out if it’s true or not.
 

However, he’s willing to sit down and talk for 3 hours. Harris ran from these types of opportunities (She knocked back going on Flagrant with Andrew Schulz while going on “Call Her Daddy”) and I think it’s going to damage her chances of winning. 
 

 


 


 

 


Harris hasn't run from these opportunities, she's been protected from them because she's an absolute lightweight with no beliefs in anything. People forget this is the same person who got torpedoed out of the primary in 2020 very early. She's only in the position she's in currently through circumstance nothing more.

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3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Indeed.  Calling Brexit voters thick worked a fucking treat in 2019.

 

For any serious political strategist, it must be worthwhile looking into the reasons why people would vote ,  against their own interests.  There's probably some that can be put down purely to stupidity - and there's fuck all you can do about their votes - but for others, with more complex motives, it would be useful to try to understand them.

 

In fairness, I've never really heard politicians calling them thick, just people online. Also, them lacking intelligence and needing to address their reasons for voting the way they do aren't mutually exclusive. Both can be, and are, true. As you say, it takes alot of unravelling and I'm not sure that this incarnation of Labour are capable of doing it.

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7 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Indeed.  Calling Brexit voters thick worked a fucking treat in 2019.

 

For any serious political strategist, it must be worthwhile looking into the reasons why people would vote ,  against their own interests.  There's probably some that can be put down purely to stupidity - and there's fuck all you can do about their votes - but for others, with more complex motives, it would be useful to try to understand them.


I think it’s relatively easy to understand even the complex motives, but when they are ultimately self-defeating, it’s essentially the same conclusion 

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4 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I honestly don't know what to make of the polls. You'd imagine the strategy types in the Democratic party are of higher calibre these days than the cranks in the republican machine, so when you get stories like "top level Dems feeling downbeat" there must be something a brewing there.


Polls are difficult to navigate but we've had Obama come out lecturing black men about what the fuck they are playing at essentially and Harris going full Trump is a Nazi going to destroy your life etc, which all sounds a bit desperate. Meanwhile I've just seen Trump bring on the "Muslims of Michigan" to fully endorse him at one of his rallies.

I'd be surprised if Harris wins from here to be honest, feels like all the momentum is with Trump right now.

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This is where we are as humanity. “Well she’s shit if she doesn’t got on Joe Rogan” 

 

The Future President of the United States of America 

 

We all and I mean all need to give our heads a huge wobble and try and get back to sensible shit ish 

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1 minute ago, MacsBurstNads said:

This is where we are as humanity. “Well she’s shit if she doesn’t got on Joe Rogan” 

 

The Future President of the United States of America 

 

We all and I mean all need to give our heads a huge wobble and try and get back to sensible shit ish 


It's not about going on Joe Rogen it's about being put under scrutiny of your ideas and beliefs. Same as it ever was, just fit for the modern world. Joe Rogen is the softest interview ever regardless of your political leanings, Bernie Sanders has been on there and got through fine so whats Harris's issue? It's one of the biggest podcasts in the world.

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26 minutes ago, MacsBurstNads said:

This is where we are as humanity. “Well she’s shit if she doesn’t got on Joe Rogan” 

 

The Future President of the United States of America 

 

We all and I mean all need to give our heads a huge wobble and try and get back to sensible shit ish 

Is this the same situation as Starmer (so we're told) needing to guzzle Murdoch's dusty spooge in order to win?

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29 minutes ago, Gooch said:


It's not about going on Joe Rogen it's about being put under scrutiny of your ideas and beliefs. Same as it ever was, just fit for the modern world. Joe Rogen is the softest interview ever regardless of your political leanings, Bernie Sanders has been on there and got through fine so whats Harris's issue? It's one of the biggest podcasts in the world.


Boris Johnson hid in a fridge. 

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