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2 hours ago, littletedwest said:

It amazes me how thick people are.

There will genuinely now be millions of people who believe that family pets are being eaten by immigrants. 

The bigger the lie the more they believe.

Post truth era

Saw it with johnson and seeing it with farage.

The truth doesn't matter, only that morons believing it.

It's obviously helps when you have a media bending over for them.

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13 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Post truth era

Saw it with johnson and seeing it with farage.

The truth doesn't matter, only that morons believing it.

It's obviously helps when you have a media bending over for them.

 

Absolutely. A normal, functioning and independent media would not only have debunked their shite, but would also have starved them of the platform they have enjoyed for the past ten years.

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17 minutes ago, Rushies tash said:

 

Absolutely. A normal, functioning and independent media would not only have debunked their shite, but would also have starved them of the platform they have enjoyed for the past ten years.

Most of it shouldn't even need debunking.  When someone makes a clearly preposterously claim, the correct response is "Nah. Never happened".  Every functioning adult should be able to say that. Instead, we get fact-checkers investigating whether immigrants eat cats.

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2 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Most of it shouldn't even need debunking.  When someone makes a clearly preposterously claim, the correct response is "Nah. Never happened".  Every functioning adult should be able to say that. Instead, we get fact-checkers investigating whether immigrants eat cats.

 

Trouble is, when outlandish claims do get proven to be bollocks, these people have been conditioned to believe that this is proof of some kind of conspiracy and only they know the real truth. Fucking lunatics.

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Thing I think some people still don't get about Trump is that people vote for him for two reasons.

 

(1) they don't care if he'll deliver for them or not, but he's despised by people they themselves despise, so they're happy enough with that. Misery loves company, like with Brexit.

 

(2) they're people who consume lies all day, every day, on fox news and YouTube. So they no longer believe what they see with their own eyes and ears. This is underpinned for many by the idea of faith over facts. They're from towns where everything is closed except for the 18 churches selling Jesus, so they're well drilled in the idea of not sweating the fact everything is falling to bits, the Lord will provide. Populism is tailor made for these people. You don't need statistics and facts, you just need to believe.

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Taking last night well i see

 

 

Trump: I won’t debate Harris again – unless it’s on my terms

 

Donald Trump suggested he would not debate Kamala Harris again unless it was on his own terms after a bruising head-to-head against the vice-president.

Trump lashed out at the ABC News network that hosted Tuesday night’s debate, which viewers and critics agreed he lost to Ms Harris after a string of outbursts.

 

He blamed the “terrible network” and on Wednesday suggested he would only debate Ms Harris again on his favoured Fox News with his preferred presenters.

Both Fox and CBS News have offered to host a second debate, but on Tuesday night it appeared to be unlikely to go ahead.

The presidential debate saw Trump raise bizarre claims that migrants are eating pet cats and dogs in US cities, while Ms Harris remained largely on message.

Snap polls suggested she had won the debate by a wide margin, while some of Trump’s close allies admitted he had underperformed.

The debate was one of the set-piece events of the campaign. Ms Harris remains slightly ahead of Trump in national polls, but the election on November 5 is likely to be decided on tiny margins in a handful of states.

On Wednesday, pressure was growing on Trump, 78, to change tack after his tirades against Ms Harris, 59, in the debate appeared to backfire.

His performance rattled senior Republicans, with party donors reportedly reconsidering their spending on the presidential race.

 

Shares in Trump’s own media company also fell more than 13 per cent as the markets priced in a drop in the odds of him reclaiming the White House.

The Republican senator Lindsey Graham, one of Trump’s most prominent allies, conceded the former president suffered a “missed opportunity”.

 

The Republican candidate failed to seize his “chance to lay it all out”, Mr Graham said, while Ms Harris had “handled herself well”.

Amy Koch, a Republican strategist, said she felt Trump had “prepared more than ever” and had performed better than Ms Harris on the economy and inflation, but sounded “old man crazy” when he regurgitated conspiracy theories.

Trump was also ridiculed online for reviving the debunked claim that Haitian immigrants were abducting pets in Ohio and eating them.

“They’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating the cats,” he said during a segment of the debate about immigration.

Republican officials also feared Trump came across as angry when provoked by Ms Harris over the size of crowds at his rallies and the result of the 2020 election, which he still claims to have won.

Trump made a surprise appearance backstage after the debate in the “spin room” where he claimed he had won the debate to groups of reporters interviewing his allies.

 

During the debate, Trump also signalled that he would once again attempt to repeal the Affordable Care Act, the last big legislative expansion to US healthcare protections often known as “Obamacare”.

However, he conceded he had no firm proposal to replace the legislation, which remains broadly popular with Americans. “I have concepts of a plan,” he said, sparking mockery online.

A snap CNN poll of registered voters who watched Tuesday’s debate found the majority, 63 per cent to 37, thought Ms Harris outperformed her rival on stage.

However, the overwhelming majority – 82 per cent – said it would not affect how they cast their vote.

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13 hours ago, Lee909 said:

However, the overwhelming majority – 82 per cent – said it would not affect how they cast their vote.

 

Fucking hell. A good number of that 82% will still vote for Trump despite that performance. Imagine being that tribal you'd elect somebody who I wouldn't even trust to run a bath let alone one of the world's most powerful nations.

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15 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Most of it shouldn't even need debunking.  When someone makes a clearly preposterously claim, the correct response is "Nah. Never happened".  Every functioning adult should be able to say that. Instead, we get fact-checkers investigating whether immigrants eat cats.

even now the bbc wont come out and call the likes of johnson or trump what they are (liars) because they think they are maintaining "balance”, so even when they come out with something vaguely critical will be denounced by the right as false news.(trump)or a  deep state plot (johnson)

Which is why you have dribbling fuck wits on twitter talking about a "lefty msn" when, quite demonstrably opposite is the case.

  

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40 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I'm hoping he's jumped the shark now. I've seen a few clips online of people watching the debate in town halls and bars and everyone has just creased up laughing at the dogs comment.

Be better if he was eaten by one.

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On 11/09/2024 at 14:39, littletedwest said:

Some of the shit he says is hilarious. Imagine 20 years ago if someone told you a presidential nominee would be talking about democrats executing new born babies and immigrants eating our pets. It's like brass eye.

The shit he says, it's like something off the front page of the Sunday sport. 

 

 

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