Donald Trump

[Scooby Dudek]

Sanders 97%

Stein       96%

Trump    24%

[Rico1304]

US Version:

 

Sanders 92%

Stein 92%

Clinton 87%

Bloomberg 54%

Johnson 25%

Bush 24%

Trump 18%

Cruz 12%

Carson 9%

 

Australian version:

 

Greens 90%

Labour 67%

Liberals 7%

 

The answers were shit. I wanted to add my own stance to the majority of them.

Strange that, you mean there wasn't a BURN ALL THE RIGHT WING CAPITALIST CUNTS option in the poll?

[Dr Nowt]

There is no mystery to it, these quizzes tend to miss nuance.

 

For instance, you could say that you want to subsidise renewable energy, as I did, and another person could say they want to expand surveillance. To the quiz, they are both examples of government intervention, so either response would move you leftwards on the scale, even though they are clearly very different in form and intent.

 

That said, you don't have to be very left-wing to disagree with the majority of the Republican platform, do you.

Save it, you bloody pinko.

[Rico1304]

There'll only be me left soon.

[Gnasher]

Most people believe in left wing issues in this country.

 

The media prevents people for believing so, it's akin to a large number of Aston Villa supporters not wanting Rafa Benetiez managing their club as the media in this country tarnished him as a know nothing fat Spanish waiter.

[Dr Nowt]

Sanders 97%

Stein 97%

Clinton 90%

Bloomberg 69%

Johnson 34%

Bush 31%

Trump 30%

Carson 20%

Cruz 16%

 

Can't believe I scored 30% for Trump. Answering 'Yes' to I want to impregnate my own daughter and throw Muslims into the Great Pit of Carkoon obviously did for me.

[Jairzinho]

There was a UK one of these a while ago and I got 5% Nick Griffin. A proud day.

 

Think it was the bit about coloureds. Sorry, I mean some transport policy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Running over coloureds.

[Boss]

Yeah it asks you at the top of the quiz whether you want to do the UK one. I got...

 

Labour 93%

Green 92%

Lib Dems 92%

SNP 91%

UKIP 31%

Conservative 30%

[setreal]

This whole Trump vs The Bush family spectacle now reminds me of Kansas City vs. The Gerhardts.

[redheart]

[KMD7]

Karl Strontz

[Anubis]

There'll only be me left soon.

If we can get Stronts its only a matter of time....

[Bob]

Just seen that Trump has bought the domain www.jebbush.com, as the domain registration ran out.

 

He may be an arse, but that's quite funny

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Is Trump a genuine Fascist?

 

Here's an article written a few years ago which lists 14 features shared by historical Fascist regimes.  It's interesting to consider how many of these chime with the stuff Trump is saying.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4113.htm

 

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    1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the prominent  displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins, the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was  usually coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on  xenophobia.

    2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

     3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most significant common thread among these regimes was the use of scapegoating as a  means to divert the people’s attention from other problems, to shift blame forfailures, and to channel frustration in controlled directions. The methods of choice—relentless propaganda and disinformation—were usually effective. Often the regimes would incite “spontaneous” acts against the target scapegoats, usually communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities, traditional  national enemies, members of other religions, secularists, homosexuals, and“terrorists.” Active opponents of these regimes were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

    4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was allocated to the military, even  when domestic needs were acute. The military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations, and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

    5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

     6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media were  under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and implied threats. The leaders of the mass  media were often politically compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in keeping the general public unaware of the regimes’ excesses.

     7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting “national security,” and questioning its activities was portrayed as unpatriotic or even treasonous.

    8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes, the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling elite’s behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the “godless.” A perception was manufactured that opposing the power elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

     9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure military production (in developed states), but also as an additional means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of interests, especially in the repression of “have-not” citizens.

    10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was seen as the one power center that could challenge the political hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass, viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being poor was considered akin to a vice.

    11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts. Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or they had no right to exist.

    12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked power, leading to rampant abuse. “Normal” and political crime were often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of criminals or “traitors” was often promoted among the population as an excuse for more police power.

    13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and close to the power elite often used their position to enrich themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general population.

    14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining control of the election machinery, intimidating an disenfranchising opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

[Strontium]

Just seen that Trump has bought the domain www.jebbush.com, as the domain registration ran out.

 

He may be an arse, but that's quite funny

 

Trump is the World's Greatest Troll. I stand in awe.

[Dr Nowt]

Koptalk nostalgia all over the shop tonight.

 

Trump must have Oldham as his campaign strategist.

[Boss]

You've basically just described America there Angry.

 

Nationalism ('merica fuck yeah!)   ✓

Distain of human rights (Guantanamo Bay)  ✓

Scapegoats (Islam, Blacks, Poor people)   ✓

Military supremacy   ✓

Controlled mass media (Fox News)   ✓

Obsession with national security   ✓

Religion tied to policy (Republicanism)    ✓

Corporate protection (Bilderberg, Corporate tax avoidance)   ✓

Power of labour suppressed (Unions destabilised, left wing seen as communist)   ✓

Obsession with crime and punishment (Strictest sentences in the world, death penalty)   ✓

Rampant cronyism and corruption (lobbyists, Big pharma)   ✓

[ZonkoVille77]

You've basically just described America there Angry.

 

Nationalism ('merica fuck yeah!) ✓

Distain of human rights (Guantanamo Bay) ✓

Scapegoats (Islam, Blacks, Poor people) ✓

Military supremacy ✓

Controlled mass media (Fox News) ✓

Obsession with national security ✓

Religion tied to policy (Republicanism) ✓

Corporate protection (Bilderberg, Corporate tax avoidance) ✓

Power of labour suppressed (Unions destabilised, left wing seen as communist) ✓

Obsession with crime and punishment (Strictest sentences in the world, death penalty) ✓

Rampant cronyism and corruption (lobbyists, Big pharma) ✓

And Israel.

[SasaS]

And Russia.

[VladimirIlyich]

And the UK.

[SasaS]

Iran, Saudi Arabia.

[Jairzinho]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDMx0CSkU04

[SasaS]

Guardian translated Picketty's opinion piece from Le Monde. Unsurprisingly and by cleverly recycling his greatest hit(s), Picketty sees Sanders' popularity as people wanting to tax the reach more. Much, much more.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2016/feb/16/thomas-piketty-bernie-sanders-us-election-2016

[SasaS]

This is hardly helping.

[Boss]

This is hardly helping.

 

The IQ in that youtube comment section would probably equal less than an Avery family reunion.