Donald Trump

[Anubis]

Bleachgate just gets better and better...
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

 

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The leader of the most prominent group in the US peddling potentially lethal industrial bleach as a “miracle cure” for coronavirus wrote to Donald Trump at the White House this week.

 

In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”.

 

A few days after Grenon dispatched his letter, Trump went on national TV at his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus. To the astonishment of medical experts, the US president said that disinfectant “knocks it out in a minute. One minute!”

He went on to say: “Is there a way we can do something, by an injection inside or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that.”

 

Trump did not specify where the idea of using disinfectant as a possible remedy for Covid-19 came from, and the source for his notion remains obscure. But the Guardian has learned that peddlers of chlorine dioxide – industrial bleach – have been making direct approaches to the White House in recent days.

 

Grenon styles himself as “archbishop” of Genesis II – a Florida-based outfit that claims to be a church but which in fact is the largest producer and distributor of chlorine dioxide bleach as a “miracle cure” in the US. He brands the chemical as MMS, “miracle mineral solution”, and claims fraudulently that it can cure 99% of all illnesses including cancer, malaria, HIV/Aids as well as autism.

 

Since the start of the pandemic, Genesis II has been marketing MMS as a cure to coronavirus. It advises users, including children, to mix three to six drops of bleach in water and drink it.

 

In his weekly televised radio show, posted online on Sunday, Grenon read out the letter he wrote to Trump. He said it began: “Dear Mr President, I am praying you read this letter and intervene.”

 

Grenon said that 30 of his supporters have also written in the past few days to Trump at the White House urging him to take action to protect Genesis II in its bleach-peddling activities which they claim can cure coronavirus.

 

On Friday, hours after Trump talked about disinfectant on live TV, Grenon went further in a post on his Facebook page. He claimed that MMS had actually been sent to the White House. He wrote: “Trump has got the MMS and all the info!!! Things are happening folks! Lord help others to see the Truth!”

 

Paradoxically, Trump’s outburst about the possible value of an “injection” of disinfectant into the lungs of Covid-19 sufferers came just days after a leading agency within the president’s own administration took action to shut down the peddling of bleach as a coronavirus cure around the US.

 

Last week the US Food and Drug Administration obtained a federal court order barring Genesis II from selling what was described as “an unproven and potentially harmful treatment for Covid-19”. The FDA also ordered a disciple of Genesis II, Kerri Rivera, to remove claims that MMS cured coronavirus from her website.

 

Last August the FDA issued an urgent warning urging Americans not to buy or drink MMS, which it said was a “dangerous bleach which has caused serious and potentially life-threatening side effects”. Drinking MMS can cause nausea, diarrhea and severe dehydration that can lead to death, the federal agency said.

 

The Guardian contacted the White House asking whether Grenon’s letter had influenced Trump’s comments on disinfectant, but did not immediately receive a response. 

 

Another advocate of bleach as a miracle cure who has been seeking to interest Trump in the treatment is Alan Keyes. He is a former ambassador and adviser to Ronald Reagan who ran unsuccessfully as a Republican candidate for the US Senate and on three occasions for the US presidency.

 

Keyes has featured Genesis II bleach products as a miracle cure on his online conservative TV show, Let’s Talk America.

 

It is not known whether Keyes has discussed MMS with Trump. But the two men have overlapping interests.

 

Not only have they both featured in Republican party and presidential politics, but they were both leading proponents of the Birther conspiracy theory that wrongfully suggested Barack Obama was born outside America.

 

Keyes’s TV show is hosted on IAMtv, a rightwing web-based channel. IAMtv’s other leading anchor is Bob Sisson, who has also advertised Genesis II bleach products on air.

 

In one of his shows, first reported by the Daily Beast, Sisson held up two bottles of Genesis II MMS and said: “Gonna meet Trump, it’s only a matter of time. President Trump’s gonna invite us up there, when he finds out about this stuff.”

 

On Friday Trump claimed he was being “sarcastic” in his remarks but there is no evidence to back up that claim and he appeared entirely serious as he made them.

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

 

 

Anyone know if this as going to be as big a story as it's claimed ?

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Seems so easy to create some giant conspiracy story to show trumps corruption only for it to fall apart and make trump look like a victim. I'm sceptical of all news sources these days, a lot of people are so against main stream media they ignore the idea that most of the internet and smaller news groups are utter bullshit too. 

[Anubis]

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

Is this it ? Something about a $200m loan from the bank of China.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt-205475

 

 

Didn't see it but just before last nights briefing, CCN were asked to move to the back of the room which they refused. Apparently they were told that if they didn't the Secret Service would remove them if they didn't.

 

 

 

Apparently when Trump did turn up, he walked off after about five minutes.

 

Anyone got a link to it ?

[Scott_M]

[Dougie Do'ins]

[Anubis]

59 minutes ago, Dougie Do'ins said:

Is this it ? Something about a $200m loan from the bank of China.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/24/trump-biden-china-debt

That looks like a story about old debt in 2012. The suggestion in the above tweets is that the story is more recent if it’s about gathering dirt on Biden.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Imbleachment

[Anubis]

Mick, here’s the press conference. He seems only to speak for 5 minutes because he turns it over to someone else. He doesn’t answer questions though.

 

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

13 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Mick, here’s the press conference. He seems only to speak for 5 minutes because he turns it over to someone else. He doesn’t answer questions though.

 

 

Thanks. He doesn't look happy there. Looks like he's been told not to deviate from the script and got the fuck out before he did any more damage.

[Trumo]

3 hours ago, Anubis said:

Bleachgate just gets better and better...
 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirus

 

 

 

If there is indeed a Lord God Almighty, he really ought to be smiting charlatans like this cunt with great vengeance and furious anger for spouting their shite in His name.

[Red Phoenix]

I've been looking through old Magic The Gathering sets over the last few days, have just found this :

 

 

It's not a joke either, it's a real card from 2005 : https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=88802

[ZonkoVille77]

25 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I've been looking through old Magic The Gathering sets over the last few days, have just found this :

 

 

It's not a joke either, it's a real card from 2005 : https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=88802

 

I've no idea what this means. 

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

 

I've no idea what this means. 

You’ve had sex, you won’t understand. 

[Captain Turdseye]

41 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

I've been looking through old Magic The Gathering sets over the last few days, have just found this :

 

 

It's not a joke either, it's a real card from 2005 : https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=88802

I’ve got a shiny Blastoise. Straight swap?

[Anubis]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/coronavirus-trump-treatment-disinfectant-bleach-new-york-a9483786.html%3famp

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New York revealed a spike in cases of disinfectant exposure in the 18 hours following Donald Trump’s dangerous and false suggestion that injecting the cleaning agent could help treat coronavirus patients.

 

The city’s Poison Control Centre managed 30 cases from Thursday evening until Friday afternoon, a spokesperson told New York Daily News – more than double the number of cases the centre dealt with over the same period last year.

 

It followed an extraordinary White House press briefing on Thursday that saw the US president wrongly tout the potential of disinfectants injected inside the body to treat Covid-19.

 

“I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because, you see, it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number,“ Mr Trump said.

 

Following the briefing, the Poison Control Centre reported: nine cases of possible exposure to Lysol, a US brand of disinfectant; 10 cases regarding bleach; and 11 to household cleaners generally.

 

That compared to just 13 cases over the same 2019 period.

 

On Friday, Mr Trump claimed his comments had been “sarcastic”, although both video footage and a transcript of the press briefing suggested otherwise.

 

“I was asking a question sarcastically to reporters ... to see what would happen,” the president said on Friday as he signed another coronavirus relief bill into law.

 

But Mr Trump’s dangerous musings were condemned by experts, and forced makers of commercial cleaning products to warn customers against ingesting them.

 

“We must be clear that under no circumstance should our disinfectant products be administered into the human body (through injection, ingestion or any other route),” said a statement from the parent of the company that makes Lysol and Dettol, Reckitt Benckiser.

 

The US surgeon general’s office also tweeted a reminder to all Americans: “Please always talk to your health provider first before administering any treatment/ medication to yourself or a loved one.”

 

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

I've no idea what this means. 

 

I was referring to the card title sorry. Thought it was funny.

 

1 hour ago, Captain Turdseye said:

I’ve got a shiny Blastoise. Straight swap?

 

I googled "shiny Blastoise" and found Pokemon Go. No.

 

No no no.

 

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

You’ve had sex, you won’t understand. 

 

Haha, a couple more virgins here for you :

 

 

[pauliescouse]

[Captain Turdseye]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

I googled "shiny Blastoise" and found Pokemon Go. No.

 

No no no.

My card is shiny. Your isn’t. I’m withdrawing the offer. Unlucky. 

[Mudface]

Top Trumps looks a bit complicated these days. 

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

11 hours ago, Trumo said:

 

If there is indeed a Lord God Almighty, he really ought to be smiting charlatans like this cunt with great vengeance and furious anger for spouting their shite in His name.

Current situation suggests Gaia concept most likely. Let’s get a little bit sick to wipe out some of this virus and restore a bit of natural balance to the waterways and air. The rest of them look like they will take care of themselves in due course due to the balloons they keep following.

[aRdja]

 

[polymerpunkah]

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

23 minutes ago, aRdja said:

 

I'm blind drunk and I still can't believe this shite.

 

It may or may not have taken me 10 minutes and spell check to type this.