Donald Trump

[Red Phoenix]

To be a bit clearer because I don't want to be in here going on every day for ages about this:

 

Some on here obviously remember me from the last US election and my refusal to budge at all over the course of months and insane amounts of arguing, etc. I'm not anywhere near that point with this idea that a president should be able to ban reporters from the White House and I've never really felt that comfortable with it either. Mainly because I understand that it could lead to some really messed up situations in the future. I don't really think that's very likely to happen and have said that several times now but yeah, I don't feel that secure about it.

 

It could be that I just want to be that sure that this guy doesn't get a second term that I'd even be willing for the 1st amendment to be fucked over a little until he's gone, mainly in the hope that he causes such a level of outrage that there's no way he can win the next election. So from that angle yeah that's kind of fucked up and I get that.

 

I'm in no way prepared to crusade on my stance on this one anyway, and I get that it could be a really wrong way of thinking about things. It started out as just hoping CNN would lose for the sake of seeing them fail but get that it could turn out a lot more serious than that with some real lasting damage. If this does end up causing huge problems and he wins the case I suppose we just hope that Dems get a majority in both houses after the next election and can work out some way of rolling it back.

 

That would also be frustrating if we end up with say, cunts from Fox constantly baiting a president that I hope does well, but it's clearly worth dealing with if it prevents the chances of some other president doing what many fear and banning all reporters apart from those that'll cover them in a positive light. It'd just be good to see Drumf really fuck himself over with this as time passed if he won the case, so maybe that was more of an unconscious thing I had in my head.

 

So yeah I've backed down, I've budged, etc. Fair enough. Not willing to have a really drawn out thing with something as dodgy as this.

[TheBitch]

Hilary would have been worse. 

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Some on here obviously remember me from the last US election.

 

[Red Phoenix]

Added rep because I think I actually thought of that guy as I typed it or read it back. Was tired and should've probably phrased it differently, but you know what I mean hopefully. Was referring back to it as a contrast to what I'm like with this current bs. It'll be a relief if dems pick someone like Sanders or Warren next time and I'm not arguing with half the forum.

 

Would probably just avoid it anyway if not, even if they put up a total idiot it might still be better than this madness.

[Captain Turdseye]

That Cory Booker came across pretty well during that Kavanaugh shite. I read he’s considering running for president and thought that he’d be alright, even though I don’t know too much about him. But then I heard that he’s a vegan so now I’m a bit ‘meh’ about him. A vegan, for fuck sake. 

[magicrat]

4 hours ago, TheBitch said:

Hilary would have been worse. 

A worse leader than Trump is a big call.  I've never seen anyone less suited to being President .

[stringvest]

1 hour ago, magicrat said:

A worse leader than Trump is a big call.  I've never seen anyone less suited to being President .

It’s one of those reference jokes

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, magicrat said:

A worse leader than Trump is a big call.  I've never seen anyone less suited to being President .

Roy Hodgson

[TheHowieLama]

I remember when WikiLeaks was the bastion of free speech

[deiseach]

On 11/15/2018 at 12:57 AM, Red Phoenix said:

I can't resist this because I can't stand CNN and I think this is insane. Am going to try avoiding talking about Trump though because I haven't had to speak about him on here for ages and it's been great :

 

For CNN to win this case would mean that the president of the US doesn't have authority over White House press passes. That it's not up any future president who's standing there asking him/her questions, they just have to deal with whoever media outlets send in there. That doesn't really make sense at all to me.

 

If you just take clown president out of the picture here and think of any president and any major media outlet going to court and trying to make out that the president doesn't have authority in that area, then surely it's just completely fucking stupid.

 

Ruling is later today and I think CNN will definitely lose. I mean it's just one reporter not being able to enter one building, fuck him and fuck CNN. Fuck Trump too, but this is another important point for me personally : if say, Warren is president next time around, I'd like to think that if some twat from Fox or wherever is doing her head in she'd have, as president of the US, the authority to tell him to fuck off out of the White House and to stay out whilst she's in office. So on that note I don't want CNN winning this at all.

Swing and a miss, as the Americans say:

BIG: Judge Kelly rules Jim Acosta’s first amendment rights overrules the White House’s right to have orderly press conferences.

— Paul McLeod (@pdmcleod) November 16, 2018

[magicrat]

2 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Roy Hodgson

Would have been the new FDR compared to Tangoman 

[Red Phoenix]

6 hours ago, Captain Turdseye said:

That Cory Booker came across pretty well during that Kavanaugh shite. I read he’s considering running for president and thought that he’d be alright, even though I don’t know too much about him. But then I heard that he’s a vegan so now I’m a bit ‘meh’ about him. A vegan, for fuck sake. 

 

Have heard him mentioned quite a bit and maybe he'll do well, I don't know much about him either though. Him being vegan might wind up some of the more boneheaded right wingers so maybe that'd be cool too.

 

1 hour ago, deiseach said:

Swing and a miss, as the Americans say:

 

Yep, fine with being wrong on it after I started thinking about the seriousness of it a bit more. And Drumf failed again and will be wound up too, so that's also good I suppose. I admit to still finding it a bit odd with it being the White House and a president being told by courts that he can't actually do that, but when you see who's the current president it's almost impossible to give a shit really.

[Red Phoenix]

If Trump does flip out over the next two years and goes completely batshit crazy to the point where he's removed from office, I think Hodgson would be a good choice to steady the ship until the next election. He won't be great and can't seeing him really fixing anything over there, but he has a lot of experience and I think that'd at least stop the US being relegated.

 

I could see him getting a bit cosy with Putin though so that'd be something they'd have to watch for.

[Captain Turdseye]

2 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Have heard him mentioned quite a bit and maybe he'll do well, I don't know much about him either though. Him being vegan might wind up some of the more boneheaded right wingers so maybe that'd be cool too.

 

Are you insinuating that I’m a boneheaded right winger there? That’s it. I’m banning you from any threads that I start in future. If you’ve got a problem with that I’ll see you in court. 

 

A fucking vegan. 

[Red Phoenix]

26 minutes ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Are you insinuating that I’m a boneheaded right winger there? That’s it. I’m banning you from any threads that I start in future. If you’ve got a problem with that I’ll see you in court. 

 

A fucking vegan. 

 

Gah, was trying to be sly about it but looks like I've failed.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

It's not my main reason to hate the cunt, but the audible nasal inhalation he does mid-sentence is definitely on the list.

[magicrat]

A must have for Christmas. Build the wall Lego

 

[Dougie Do'ins]

He's managed to piss off the Californian fire brigade now.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46183690 

[cloggypop]

This thread needs more dwarf tossing 

 

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/11/neomi-rao-dwarf-tossing-kavanaugh-replacement/

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 11/16/2018 at 5:20 PM, Red Phoenix said:

 

 I admit to still finding it a bit odd with it being the White House and a president being told by courts that he can't actually do that, 

It shouldn't be odd, though. That's the whole purposes of the three branches of Government, to offer checks and balances.

[Hades]

 

[Section_31]

Visiting the ruins of paradise, Trump said he spoke to the president of Finland who told him that raking the leaves off the floor was an important part of forest fire management. 

 

The president of Finland says he doesn't recall saying this. 

 

He's also just tweeted about Adam Schiff but referred to him as Adam Schitt. 

 

Genius. 

[Bjornebye]

9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Visiting the ruins of paradise, Trump said he spoke to the president of Finland who told him that raking the leaves off the floor was an important part of forest fire management. 

 

The president of Finland says he doesn't recall saying this. 

 

He's also just tweeted about Adam Schiff but referred to him as Adam Schitt. 

 

Genius. 

He also called 'Paradise' 'Pleasure' twice until his staff had to correct him. Colossal fucking gimp. 

[Section_31]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

He also called 'Paradise' 'Pleasure' twice until his staff had to correct him. Colossal fucking gimp. 

I do wonder if he's genuinely senile.

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I do wonder if he's genuinely senile.

Absolutely.