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Local elections 5th May


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For all the talk about Wandsworth and Hull and whether the Tories did as badly as some hoped or Labour did as well as some feared, the results in NI are by far the biggest takeaway from these elections. How it will play out in the coming weeks, given the state of the political scene and the Stormont protocols, and particularly the intransigence of the DUP, is anyone's guess, but, as Big Bobby D once said, the times they are a changing.

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9 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

For all the talk about Wandsworth and Hull and whether the Tories did as badly as some hoped or Labour did as well as some feared, the results in NI are by far the biggest takeaway from these elections. How it will play out in the coming weeks, given the state of the political scene and the Stormont protocols, and particularly the intransigence of the DUP, is anyone's guess, but, as Big Bobby D once said, the times they are a changing.

 

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Hey ho, after crunching the numbers of the local election results bookmakers have hardened the odds on the Conservatives winning the next election to odds on, 4-7 in places, 10-11 the best you'll get on tories winning most seats. Considering the backdrop these elections were fought against a backdrop of partygate and cost of living crisis Labour being odds against winning most seats at the next election is both damning and depressing.

 

Appears the much triumphed London results turned into a bit of a mish-mash for Labour, won three, lost three, one in East London lost to an independent. Labour did do well in parts of the south, Southampton being a very good result and Labour did well in both Scotland and Wales. The Midlands and North all showed the Labour vote stagnating, Labour lost Derby, Hull, Hartlepool, Sheffield and Bolton but won Mayfair, make of that what you will. 

 

The Labour Party's neglect of some of its traditional voters is costing it dear, NHS workers, the Muslim vote and the Younger/Youth vote are deserting Labour. IMO i don't disagree with the bookmakers, the makeover into a Change UK tribute act will see Labour fall fall short at the General Election. 

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2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Hey ho, after crunching the numbers of the local election results bookmakers have hardened the odds on the Conservatives winning the next election to odds on, 4-7 in places, 10-11 the best you'll get on tories winning most seats. Considering the backdrop these elections were fought against a backdrop of partygate and cost of living crisis Labour being odds against winning most seats at the next election is both damning and depressing.

 

Appears the much triumphed London results turned into a bit of a mish-mash for Labour, won three, lost three, one in East London lost to an independent. Labour did do well in parts of the south, Southampton being a very good result and Labour did well in both Scotland and Wales. The Midlands and North all showed the Labour vote stagnating, Labour lost Derby, Hull, Hartlepool, Sheffield and Bolton but won Mayfair, make of that what you will. 

 

The Labour Party's neglect of some of its traditional voters is costing it dear, NHS workers, the Muslim vote and the Younger/Youth vote are deserting Labour. IMO i don't disagree with the bookmakers, the makeover into a Change UK tribute act will see Labour fall fall short at the General Election. 

 

The country deserves its fate, the only morsel of comfort is that people who voted Tory used to be largely insulated from suffering as a result of their decisions, but now, from toothless simpletons in the North East to elderly pensioners in Kent, none will be spared from this absolute plague and pestilence. And good.  

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

The country deserves its fate, the only morsel of comfort is that people who voted Tory used to be largely insulated from suffering as a result of their decisions, but now, from toothless simpletons in the North East to elderly pensioners in Kent, none will be spared from this absolute plague and pestilence. And good.  

 

 

 

Still a fair chance of a Lab victory and a coalition with the Libs/Greens, the cost of living crisis is going to get worse and according to the betting its still very close. Still all to play for.

 

Edit; I've no idea what's making people in the Midlands and Nth East voting Tory, its staggering,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/09/more-than-2m-adults-in-uk-cannot-afford-to-eat-every-day-survey-finds

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3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Still a fair chance of a Lab victory and a coalition with the Libs/Greens, the cost of living crisis is going to get worse and according to the betting its still very close. Still all to play for.

 

Not sure about that. I suspect it'll have to get 'worse before it gets better'. Some kind of social reset brought about by a disaster and/or severe hardship that will change the course of British/English society, a la post World War 2. We're not going to get to that place organically. 

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9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

Not sure about that. I suspect it'll have to get 'worse before it gets better'. Some kind of social reset brought about by a disaster and/or severe hardship that will change the course of British/English society, a la post World War 2. We're not going to get to that place organically. 

Some bad reports on mental health and the cost of living crisis today,

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/may/09/more-than-2m-adults-in-uk-cannot-afford-to-eat-every-day-survey-finds

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Still a fair chance of a Lab victory and a coalition with the Libs/Greens, the cost of living crisis is going to get worse and according to the betting its still very close. Still all to play for.

I dont see any signs of Labour hooking up in a coalition, they still think they have enough to win an election on their own. Or, they are happy to stay in perpetual opposition as it means they still have jobs and can pay the bills.

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2 minutes ago, redinblack said:

I dont see any signs of Labour hooking up in a coalition, they still think they have enough to win an election on their own. Or, they are happy to stay in perpetual opposition as it means they still have jobs and can pay the bills.

Very little chance of Labour winning a majority at the next election.

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