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Local elections 5th May


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5 hours ago, Section_31 said:

I'd argue that all the publications you mentioned except the Mirror are a bit different, in the sense that the people who read them already think like that. You wouldn't buy the New Statesmen to read about the footy or the Guardian to get a money off voucher for Greggs. People who read these publications actively pursue them because they already agree with it. The right wing press is more insidious. 

 

The media in this country create and peddle falsehoods and then perpetuate them over and over with simple messages, they blitz you into oblivion, and it works. 

 

If you had an election between Jesus of Nazareth and Pol Pot, and Jesus was on about free food and wine for all. Andrew Neil would rake him over the coals about how he was going to pay for it. Jesus would be like 'I'll create it with magic' and the Mail and Nick Ferrari and all the other cunts would be giving it the 'magic money tree' shit.

 

Pol Pot would be framed as a strongman who'd sort out the economy and confiscate the glasses of the Brexit naysayers. 

 

Then you'd go and do a vox in Wigan or Barnsley or wherever the f*ck and you'd get a mixture of 'they're both the same' and 'how's Jesus going to pay for it?'.

 

It's bollocks. 

 

I've said before, but is it any coincidence that the English speaking world where Murdock has no foothold - New Zealand and Canada - are relatively liberal, but where he does - UK, USA and Australia have elements of their white working class which are all virtual carbon copies of one another?

 

White van man is the shock trooper of British Conservatism, - copy of the S*n on his dashboard and shit between his ears. 

 

I'd also argue that the circulation of the likes of private eye is slightly smaller than the amount of people who read the daily mail website.

Quite how anyone can argue we don't have a right wing media in this country is slightly baffling.

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26 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I'd also argue that the circulation of the likes of private eye is slightly smaller than the amount of people who read the daily mail website.

Quite how anyone can argue we don't have a right wing media in this country is slightly baffling.

The fundamental difference between left and right is that the left believes pod people are capable of great things and only lack the light to show them the way, the right has no such lofty expectations and weaponises them with simple messaging designed to stir their baser instincts.

 

One side is trying to train a dog to play the piano, the other to eat its own balls.

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Putting Corbyn to one side, it does seem significant that the only part of Britain where Labour is embracing any level of socialism and trying to enthuse the electorate is the only bit showing some decent positive results. How the fuck can Labour actually reduce their vote share in Northern England after 2 years of this shitshow from the Tories ?

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This is how you want a loser to react, none of this go out gracious rubbish, launch a tirade against the media and bring up the death of lady Diana.

 

 

Be criminal if he wasn't given the below gift as a leaving present,

 

https://www.bradford.co.uk/dianabag.html?tid=345861&gclid=CjwKCAjwjtOTBhAvEiwASG4bCJk3JPR5Cl8pVR8lNKgLKNMN-tJwAMTjt_fIhckDV7SubF2PE_XKaBoCG_wQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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Just now, Captain Howdy said:

Am I missing something here, have the Conservatives not had a bit of a mare?

Yup, but they got their media spin in early yesterday when it didn't look as bad. I wondered what the Mail was saying about the disastrous results- the one article I could find was buried waaaay down the new page under a tidal wave of royal shite.

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1 minute ago, Captain Howdy said:

Am I missing something here, have the Conservatives not had a bit of a mare?


Yes, but not as bad as it should have been.

 

Key thing is Labour didn’t mop up the mess meaning in a GE the outcome is still uncertain. 
 

So, it’s stick or twist time?

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2 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


Yes, but not as bad as it should have been.

 

Key thing is Labour didn’t mop up the mess meaning in a GE the outcome is still uncertain. 
 

So, it’s stick or twist time?

That's a question that's hard to answer, isn't it; he's not personally very popular but he is doing pretty well in the polls. Then there's the factor of... if not him, then who? Burnham? Nandy? Erm... Corbyn? 

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31 minutes ago, Carradona said:

Looks like Sinn Fein will become the largest party in NI. Momentous occasion. 

I wouldn't get too excited, no United Ireland for a while yet. Give it 20 years 

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1 hour ago, Captain Howdy said:

Am I missing something here, have the Conservatives not had a bit of a mare?

In certain areas they have, Wales, Scotland, London. In the Midlands and North they've held their own which is why we have not heard any calls for Johnson to go from Conservative MPs. How the Tories didn't get put to the sword in places like Bolton, Sheffield, Sunderland etc is boggling.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

National vote percentage from the beeb just now, 

 

Lab 35%

CON 30%

 

I missed the lib dems and greens.

Lib Dem’s have done ok. It will be interesting to see what the smear campaign against Ed Davey will be 

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20 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

National vote percentage from the beeb just now, 

 

Lab 35%

CON 30%

 

I missed the lib dems and greens.

30% of the electorate have witnessed thousands of people dying unnecessarily,daily gaffes and lies,law breaking during the pandemic the economy stagnating as the cost of living spirals out of control and said..yep well done.

There are simply no words

 

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24 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

30% of the electorate have witnessed thousands of people dying unnecessarily,daily gaffes and lies,law breaking during the pandemic the economy stagnating as the cost of living spirals out of control and said..yep well done.

There are simply no words

 

They might have been saved by that fella looking at porn in the commons swaying the all important undecided pervert vote?

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