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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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2 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

 

People don't have to like their ground though. There's bits of it I like. There's bits I don't (since the end of it was pointed out to me it looks like the new Dublin airport, I can't I unsee that although I think it resembles a Tesco extra more). And the inside looks a bit meh, like lots of new grounds. But I think mainly it's people reacting to blues saying it's the greatest stadium in the world, when obviously that won't be true. And it's not too unreasonable for people to be pissed off at the part they played in the city losing it's world heritage status - although I feel that anger should be directed more towards the likes of Joe Anderson and his cronies. 

 

 

Just feels really unbecoming to me. Apart from the WHS stuff, which you rightly point out but isn't raised on this thread very often, why should it matter to us whether they have a new ground they're excited about? They have fuck all else to be excited about ever.

 

I know they're rivals and, at times, a hateful bunch, but why are the people acting like Everton having something nice is some kind of affront they have to endlessly play down and belittle? It's really fucking small. If I were a blue reading this forum in the way some people from TLW do on GoT or whatever, I'd think "what a bunch of spiteful, bitter twats"

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20 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

 

Just feels really unbecoming to me. Apart from the WHS stuff, which you rightly point out but isn't raised on this thread very often, why should it matter to us whether they have a new ground they're excited about? They have fuck all else to be excited about ever.

 

I know they're rivals and, at times, a hateful bunch, but why are the people acting like Everton having something nice is some kind of affront they have to endlessly play down and belittle? It's really fucking small. If I were a blue reading this forum in the way some people from TLW do on GoT or whatever, I'd think "what a bunch of spiteful, bitter twats"

I think plenty of people have said they like it on here too. It's just opinions and it's on our waterfront, so I think it's pretty fair to have them..for example, I took my kids somewhere maybe about a year ago and we went down boundary street getting there. You get this awesome view of it side on but because of the hill, you're way above the roof of the stadium (I posted pictures on this thread at the time). Then I saw pictures from the opposite side. It makes the waterfront look fucking shit. That's a thing and it's a thing the impacts our whole city.

 

The bottom line is hopefully it will bring regeneration around there and make it a vibrant part of the city and the view from the river will matter less. We will all benefit. The blues can be as happy as they want, but I don't think it's unreasonable when they've stuck a pretty out of character building on our waterfront, that some people say "that's a bit shit". It's no different from some of the other monstrosities the city have allowed over the last 25 years. 

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10 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I think plenty of people have said they like it on here too. It's just opinions and it's on our waterfront, so I think it's pretty fair to have them..for example, I took my kids somewhere maybe about a year ago and we went down boundary street getting there. You get this awesome view of it side on but because of the hill, you're way above the roof of the stadium (I posted pictures on this thread at the time). Then I saw pictures from the opposite side. It makes the waterfront look fucking shit. That's a thing and it's a thing the impacts our whole city.

 

The bottom line is hopefully it will bring regeneration around there and make it a vibrant part of the city and the view from the river will matter less. We will all benefit. The blues can be as happy as they want, but I don't think it's unreasonable when they've stuck a pretty out of character building on our waterfront, that some people say "that's a bit shit". It's no different from some of the other monstrosities the city have allowed over the last 25 years. 

 

 

Fair enough on that front. I lived in the city during the time of that "fourth grace" debacle and the waterfront hasn't recovered.

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6 minutes ago, Chris said:

 

 

Fair enough on that front. I lived in the city during the time of that "fourth grace" debacle and the waterfront hasn't recovered.

 

This is why I mentioned in the last post, I don't blame Everton for it. It's that cunt Anderson (and Peel come to that). He presided over some awful planning decisions. I'm glad where Everton are is being used. I don't agree with the idea leaving it derelict but in it's original state is better, it is a living city and hopefully it a dying one. But when you combine it with some of the other shit that's gone up, when you see it from the river, it has certainly devalued our waterfront, in a city that relies heavily on the tourist £. And it might have been worth it if the stadium was some game changing thing they think it is. But it's not. 

 

For me it's not black and white (or should I say red and blue). It can hopefully bring some benefits to the area. It can hopefully kickstart regeneration. It's better than it being derelict and in disrepair. But it's not wonderful. It's not even great. And it does diminish one of our main assets of the city. 

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1 hour ago, Chris said:

why are the people acting like Everton having something nice is some kind of affront they have to endlessly play down and belittle? 

I don't think anyone is.

 

People are, quite rightly, laughing at the exaggerated claims of "the best stadium in the country"; expressing scepticism about claims that it will miraculously transform their fortunes: worrying about the impact it will have on local traffic, etc.

 

If I had to sum up a TLW consensus, it would be "fair play to them, it looks alright on the outside and I hope it helps regenerate the area; but it's not going to be the magic bullet that fixes all their problems".

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People laugh at them because of the way they go overboard about anything remotely positive that they do. However in the weird warped mind of an Evertonian its not only over exaggerated its somehow getting one over the redshite.

 

I don't care about their stadium and I actually think its good to develop that land that Peel have done fuck all with since 2005. What is funny is the way they go on about it like it's better than one of these 2bn dollar stadiums in the US or that it is instantly the best football stadium in the world. 

 

For a set of fans who are excited about the new stadium they dont half bang on about Anfield saying its a shit loft extension and that the club destroyed the entire area to build 2 stands. Or that they repeatedly go on about building 3 stadiums in the city when all they did was rent a bit of land for the first one and haven't spent a penny on their currently one for 35 years letting the area it is in rot. 

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This from a couple of pages back where Chris Beesley goes further than claiming it will be the best stadium in the country, by grandly stating:

 

"Evertonians have heard it all from jealous rivals but even before it opens you can see this will be...

 

THE most iconic ground in world football"

 

Fair play to them for finally getting a new ground. Not for the want of trying, and false starts. It's not the new ground itself that's being mocked, but such deluded fuckwittery, as quoted above, is impossible to not laugh at, or belittle. 

 

I'd love to see Beesley on camera, being asked to state the criteria for that honour, and to legitimately justify such a claim, and also how and when he sees Everton managing to fufill it.

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Sorry Chris, no.

 

When you’ve shared the City with them for a lifetime listening to the lies about our players, their sad little conspiracy theories, their assumption of the role of the victims of Heysel, the chants of murderers, calling us wall-pushers, feeding the egos of Mancs who chant about burning scousers, and the slowly growing number who think it’s ok to make Hillsborough faces-against-fence gestures, then you can call people out. 

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12 hours ago, Anubis said:

Sorry Chris, no.

 

When you’ve shared the City with them for a lifetime listening to the lies about our players, their sad little conspiracy theories, their assumption of the role of the victims of Heysel, the chants of murderers, calling us wall-pushers, feeding the egos of Mancs who chant about burning scousers, and the slowly growing number who think it’s ok to make Hillsborough faces-against-fence gestures, then you can call people out. 


 

I reckon he was just having another self righteous minute. He does it every now and again. 

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13 hours ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

We take you into a nearly empty dark dust filled room,eerie and foreboding, a cuckoo clock springs into action. A large obese man with greasy hair approaches and gestures toward another door.

 

Everton tours with Neville Southall £10 a ticket.

Watch out kids for our Spooky Sigurdsson, he’ll jump out the bushes when you least expect it.

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On 10/10/2024 at 08:56, Bjornebye said:

They invent all the angst against it as well. 
 

“Aaaaarrrgggghhh you’re jealous as fuck lad”

 

”I’m not arsed mate good on you. Area needed redevelopment anyway so fair play”

 

”See you can’t even say it can you! Aaaaagggghhhh another soft kopite cunt jealous as usual. Your heads fell off hahahaaaaahhhh!” 

 

“We’ve still got a bigger capacity mate”

 

 

”Aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh murderin cunt!!!!!”

You and your missus have some great discussions

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