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*Shakes head* Everton again.

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I doubt it will be long before 'Not so Ace Ventura' is looking for employment, he also has the added bonus of managing a team that plays in Blue. 

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He could stay in the one he’s got now where he won’t get the chop after a run of bad games.

He could, but if he wants to step up, he needs to move. He's not doing more with Burnley is he? And he's not getting a top 6 team. So there's a bunch of clubs like Everton, Newcastle, West ham maybe. They all sack. So do the top 6. It goes with the territory and you're not getting one of those teams from outside the top 6 unless they've just sacked their man and are a mess.
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It is nearly always about the money. Plus if Dyche does well at Burnley (he is as such anyway) he'll just be noticed as a manager doing well at a small club. Everton, regardless of how deluded their fans are, is a step up due to the size of their fan base and the media coverage they get. If he went to Everton and did a good job he would basically be knocking on the door to landing a big club. He won't get to do that at Burnley. 

 

He could always fuck off to China or the States mind. 

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Surely any decent manager would want assurances of money to spend in January. I have read that they have already spent the Barkley and Niasse money on players in the summer, from that line of credit they got from a Chinese bank. They had to pay off Koeman and his staff, they'll may need to pay a club compensation for a new manager. Add to that the spending on shite in the summer and the new free stadium not happening and it's a bucket of shit really.

 

So you need to achieve top four with a squad of shite, with no money and a toxic fanbase that think they are the new Man City. 

 

There are several bluffers on the manger-go-round that specialise in taking millions from clubs by somehow convincing them that they can achieve this. Unfortunately two of them have just been given jobs. 

 

Everton bet on black and red won, they took a massive gamble on Red Ron and that bloke from Leicester. If their fans were not such massive dickheads I might feel sorry for them, as it is I am starting to find this whole thing a little more than amusing. 

 

I may just piss a kidney if they appoint Big Sam, if they decide to stick with Unsworthy until the end of the season I can see them crawling to Allardyce in January. 

 

I'd give a little shout out to Claudio Ranieri, not just because I have a £1 on him at 457/1 but because I think he would actually be a decent manager for them. Maybe he has too much class to join them though.

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Moyes is the template for a manager like Dyche. Not so much the failures, but more the path. Go to Everton and do well, and you might get a shot at a big club. You won’t get that from where you are at Burnley (then again, we appointed a Rodgers from Swansea, so you never say never).

 

Everton are obviously much bigger than Burnley, so it all depends on what he sees in his future. I don’t see how Burnley can be any better than at present, but Everton can do much better. Burnley’s natural level is bobbing around the relegation zone and hopefully staying up. Dyche has done a good job so they are mid table with him. Everton’s level is much higher, and while I can’t for the life of me see how they break into the top six, they could easily be the seventh best team in the Prem, consistently, and then try to build further from there.

 

Have Everton interviewed Dyche? I’ve seen talk of Simeone and other luminaries, but surely that’s unrealistic. In the meantime maybe Unsworth will have a little run and do well, especially after their late win last time. They’ve been underperforming so there’s a fairly easy upside for someone to harness if they grab the chance.

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Surely any decent manager would want assurances of money to spend in January. I have read that they have already spent the Barkley and Niasse money on players in the summer, from that line of credit they got from a Chinese bank. They had to pay off Koeman and his staff, they'll may need to pay a club compensation for a new manager. Add to that the spending on shite in the summer and the new free stadium not happening and it's a bucket of shit really.

 

So you need to achieve top four with a squad of shite, with no money and a toxic fanbase that think they are the new Man City. 

 

There are several bluffers on the manger-go-round that specialise in taking millions from clubs by somehow convincing them that they can achieve this. Unfortunately two of them have just been given jobs. 

 

Everton bet on black and red won, they took a massive gamble on Red Ron and that bloke from Leicester. If their fans were not such massive dickheads I might feel sorry for them, as it is I am starting to find this whole thing a little more than amusing. 

 

I may just piss a kidney if they appoint Big Sam, if they decide to stick with Unsworthy until the end of the season I can see them crawling to Allardyce in January. 

 

I'd give a little shout out to Claudio Ranieri, not just because I have a £1 on him at 457/1 but because I think he would actually be a decent manager for them. Maybe he has too much class to join them though.

 

Come on, they surely only play on routlette tables that are black and blue.

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Paul Joyce writes in The Times

 

Everton’s scattergun approach to finding a new manager is making an even bigger mess

 

There was a time not so long ago when Farhad Moshiri, Everton’s major shareholder, remained relatively anonymous and could simply sit back with his business associate Alisher Usmanov and pick apart Stan Kroenke’s running of Arsenal. How they must miss those days now.

 

This year, the pantomime season has come early for Everton. The club’s search for a new manager - a search being headed by Moshiri - is creating even more mess at a club that spent £140 million last summer only to find themselves sixth from bottom in the Premier League.

 

To recap, Ronald Koeman was sacked on October 23 after a two-month downturn in results in which Everton won only two matches. David Unsworth was put in charge (losing three games and winning one) until the international break, when Everton were expected to roll out the masterplan to restabilise the club.

 

It has become obvious, however, that when Koeman was dismissed there was no clear succession plan. The timing of Koeman’s sacking was especially ironic given that it came after a 5-2 defeat by Arsenal, the club in which Moshiri sold his shares in 2016 and bought a 49.9 per cent stake in Everton because he wanted more of a say in the running of a Premier League club.

 

It seems there is no coherent, joined-up strategy. So far there has been a meeting with Sam Allardyce, a courtship of Diego Simeone with a view to a summer appointment and, belatedly yesterday, a pile of money waved at Watford in the hope that they would release Marco Silva and take on the problem of finding a manager themselves. Predictably, they said no.

 

Silva has come round to the idea of moving to Goodison Park — just as Koeman was persuaded by Moshiri’s millions to quit Southampton in the summer of 2016 — having initially not wanted to appear disloyal and walk out on Watford after only 11 matches.

 

That will give Everton encouragement but, equally, Moshiri’s compensation package of about £8.5 million was hardly likely to turn heads at Watford, who cleverly did not allow Silva a break clause in his contract.

 

Even in the modern game, where clubs happily pay tens of millions for players but try to secure managers on the cheap, the maths did not add up.

If Silva is as good as Everton think, and don’t forget that Unsworth’s sole victory involved coming from 2-0 down to win 3-2 against Watford, then he is the difference between staying in the top flight or not. That difference is worth in the region of £100 million and in that context, Everton’s offer can hardly be described as enticing.

 

That said, it also feels like the beginning of the end for Silva at Watford and perhaps it is a matter of when, and to where, he eventually moves. The Portuguese has shown that he views the club as a stepping stone and that in itself could have ramifications for their season given that early momentum has been stalled by three successive defeats.

 

In the meantime, Allardyce — whose presence as a candidate has polarised opinion — has grown frustrated at the lack of progress, while Burnley’s Sean Dyche knows he is at least fourth choice if the wheel of fortune ever comes spinning back in his direction.

 

As for the Atletico Madrid coach Simeone, goodness knows what he is thinking, but the internet spoofs that have circulated since his name was mentioned may offer a gauge.

 

It is hard not to feel sympathy for Unsworth, who stepped into the breach and continues to take training daily while unsure if he will be in charge for Saturday’s game at Crystal Palace — a match which feels crucial at the lower end of the table.

 

His hand has been weakened further by the way Everton have gone about their business and yet he could be asked to rouse a set of players who know that he is not the club’s preferred permanent manager.

 

Kevin Mirallas and Morgan Schneiderlin have already chosen to walk off the training pitch when challenged by the interim backroom staff over a perceived lack of effort rather than display the humility required to drag the club out of the mire.

 

Unless Silva agitates and Watford cave in — and there is no sign of the latter — Everton, increasingly, appear to have two options: go cap in hand to Allardyce, massage his ego and offer him a big bonus if he keeps them up, or back Unsworth.

 

Whatever way Moshiri goes, it is time for some clarity of thought.

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How has Silva managed to seem such an enticing prospect on the back of relegation with Hull? And a (admittedly) good start at Watford? 

 

Coming off the back of Simeone it is akin to striding confidently into a car showroom, and asking really loudly so that everyone can hear 'I'm interested in the Porsche, the Bentley and the Mondeo'! 

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