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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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Angelgabriel said: ↑

If Koeman got us to 2 finals in his 1st season, (which is now impossible & it's only October) I think we'd all be very optimistic over Ronald & the future. If Koeman lost said finals, would that make him a tried and tested loser? Serious question. Be good if you could answer it. Hell, if Ronald got us the Cup Final he'd be lauded.

 

 

If Koeman had lost as many cup finals as Klopp and had a track record that is nothing special managing probably the biggest club in a 2 horse race whilst the other team was having a sticky patch there would be loads of questions still to be asked. Fortunately Koeman's one of the most decorated footballers/managers in the modern game and is a tried and tested winner, with lots and lots of trophies to prove it, unlike Klopp.

Three Dutch titles and a Dutch Cup plus a Spanish Cup make you one of the most decorated managers in the game, apparently.
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My mistake: I've just realised that he's counting what Koeman won as a player, too.

 

By that measure, Gary Neville is one of the best in the business.

 

You joke, but there are a LOT of people who think Giggs should be United manager for this very reason.  It's a more popular delusion than one would think.

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Another for the list of firsts today.

 

Gareth Barry is the first player to be the twelfth player to be on the winning side in 250 Premier League games.

 

 

Im gonna guess at the others

 

Giggs

Scholes

G Neville

R Ferdinand 

Shearer

Lampard

Terry

Campbell

Keane (Roy)

Gerrard

Carragher

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