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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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1 hour ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

I fucking love GOT. This SaintDomingo is proper mental.

 

 
Don't you find it strange that both the rs and city were great for 2 seasons, then their performances dropped afterwards. Chelsea are a good side, yet they don't seem to be far fitter than other teams, like the RS and City. There have been teams with bigger squads and better players who haven't achieved what the RS did in 2020. Milner has somehow got better as he's got older and playing in a far more physically demanding league. Other quality players haven't kept that up, yet he has. Also other than Vardy, Larsson and Wright almost all world class strikers were spotted at a young age. Messi, Ronaldo, Maradona, Rooney, Drogba, Shearer, Lukaku, Bergkamp and a variety of others. Can you explain how Salah wasn't being looked at by any other top clubs, yet has become world class overnight. It's almost unheard of for a world class striker or attacker, to not be in their prime, by let's say 20. You could see Rashfords class, from the very off, even Barkley you could see his quality, same when we had Eto. Firmino was crap when he started at the RS yet suddenly became a world beater. It's almost unheard of for 2 full backs out of nowhere to become quality, yet overnight Robertson and TAA came into their side a d set the world alight. Don't you find it strange how not 1 player who has left them under I look has done anything. Look at how many of their players have asthma, you wouldn't find that many asthmatics in any other workplace. Having done numerous community programmes relating to those with physical and mental health issues, I'm aware that ashstma is rarely concentrated in certain fields, compared to type 2 diabetes, liver issues and other lifestyle issues, that are related to people's socio economic


Spot on all of this but you’ll get called part of the tin foil hat brigade by the same group on here who seem to love this lot.

It’s the world class striker bit that resonates the most with me. These big clubs don’t miss a single one. Not a single one. They were picking up Messi as a teenager. They paid millions for Neymar. United swooped for a teenage Rooney with a record fee. Same with Ronaldo. Haaland and Mbappe have been signed up as teenagers to top clubs already. These top clubs are constantly gambling on young prodigies across the globe, and let’s be honest how many do they miss? Barely any, and if they do they’re buying them in their early 20s for huge money.

You can even extend it to CBs. Pique was world class as a teenager, both United and Barcelona knew it. Ramos also, Varane likewise. City shelled out 50 mill for John Stones. Even all the way back to Maldini. The class was obvious.


Then you have Liverpool who somehow managed to find the only three forwards in world football all in their mid 20s who happened to just morph into not only world class players (despite never showing it anywhere before) but arguably the best forward line in world football all at the same time! What an amazing coincidence.

But then to repeat the trick with Van Dijk as well, a player in his mid 20s who had been good for Celtic and Southampton to then become, according to the media now, the best CB in the world and maybe prem history. How did all these top clubs miss these prodigies in their teenage years?

To top it all off, how amazingly convenient that all these players came along just as two world class full backs appeared over night (despite no one mentioning TAA in his academy years at all, and Robertson looking terrible for Hull)

I see Coutinho is now at Aston Villa and Wijnaldum can’t get in the PSG team. Amazing how their period of world class form occurred for the only time in their career under Klopp at Liverpool.

He’s just a doping cheat, so is Pep (seriously I’d never even heard of Dias, Rodri, Jesus, Bernardo Silva before they all turned out to be world class). How convenient that they lost Kompany Silva Aguero (genuine generational world class players) and just replaced them so easily with a few players from Benfica and Atletico and arguably got even more consistent.

One day people will look back and wonder how they got sucked in by all this. It’s almost quite disgusting to watch. They’re just trampling on years of football history like it’s nothing. 100 points, 99 and 98 points, 18 game winning streaks, 5 and 6 nil wins becoming common place. Making PL teams look like Sunday league sides. Going to European power houses and smashing them on their own turf with their B teams like it’s nothing.

It’s pornographic and not the good kind. The game is seriously wrong and these two are the rotting core of it. Doping cheats.

 

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That Salah goal against Norwich which is shortlisted for this months Goal of the Month on MOTD: massive 80 yard boot downfield by Allison to Salah who slots.

Anyone else and that's described as agricultural...but the Establishment Club scores that way and it's included as a Goal of the Month contender.

That lot have been route one since Gerrard demanded Rodgers to be route one 7/8 years ago...THAT is their style. Big hoof to Suarez/Salah.

Norwich goalkeeper looked on the take in that game. The Mane goal is ridiculous, he could have just picked that up. His fake rush out and slip over for the Salah goal also looked suspect to me. At best it’s just abysmal abysmal goalkeeping, at worst it’s something else. Neither of them should have been in goal of the month.

 

 

I read this, I considered a measured response but then remembered you can’t have a discussion with batshit crazy.

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"I don't for one minute believe that a world class coach supported by a top team of support staff and analysts with a measured and thought out strategy of how they want a team to play and working on marginal gains etc can take players I've never heard of and improve them"

 

It's either witchcraft or drugs, no other reasonable explanation.

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2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Can you imagine writing that shit and actually believing it. He must be torturing himself with it. It is truly superb.

It's tremendous. Every word of it is wrong. He goes on about Salah not being at a top club when he was young. He was at Chelsea at 21. Firmino was such a non-entity before playing for us that he scored 22 goals in a season for Hoffenheim. Van Dijk was supposedly plucked from obscurity in his mid 20's. You know, the obscurity of being the best defender in the Premier League and costing £75m.

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Still at it…….how are we getting away with all this? 

 

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Also I can't think of a midfielder getting better in their 30s, than their 30s, yet Milner a player who was average in his prime has got better in his 30s. Defenders get better as they get more experience, same with midfielders. KDB got better at Wolfsburg, but it took him a year and a half to reach his prime, Ronaldo took 4 years to become world class, Salah was able to come in to the premier league and to become world class overnight. Liverpool's success in recent years does not fit in within the norms of football. The RS team of 2017/2018 was very similar to the their team in 2019/2020, so why was there a huge change in their performances. They scraped through the group stages in 2017/2018 and 2018/2019 which doesn't fit in with how the great sides of the past did. The RS when they were dominating domestic football and European football still didn't destroy teams like the RS did in 2020. The great sides of the past had quality across the park, not just a few good players. The United side who won the league in 2009, had quality across the park and the RS somehow had this success with a small squad. When you take in the style of football they play it becomes even more suspicious.

He big indicator for me was their form in the middle of last season. 

I don’t care what anyone says, a couple of injuries at centreback does not lead to that sort of drop off. They went from being a team that had steamrollered everyone for 2 and a half seasons barely dropping points, to a team that lost 6 in a row at home getting beaten by the likes of Brighton Fulham Everton Burnley Southampton. They then flicked a switch and won a ridiculous number in a row at the back end of the season to make sure they got CL football again. I’ve never seen any other team have a dip in form like that. 

Alexander Arnold and Robertson went from the best full backs in PL history apparently to in danger of not making the England squad, being told he couldn’t defend, and fans wanting Tsimikas over Robertson. Mane and Firmino couldn’t hit a barn door. 

Now they’ve gone straight back to the same form they showed in previous seasons. An odd aberration that coincides precisely with the PED cycle periods.
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3 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

Still at it…….how are we getting away with all this? 

 

Saint Domingo

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m
Also I can't think of a midfielder getting better in their 30s, than their 30s, yet Milner a player who was average in his prime has got better in his 30s. Defenders get better as they get more experience, same with midfielders. KDB got better at Wolfsburg, but it took him a year and a half to reach his prime, Ronaldo took 4 years to become world class, Salah was able to come in to the premier league and to become world class overnight. Liverpool's success in recent years does not fit in within the norms of football. The RS team of 2017/2018 was very similar to the their team in 2019/2020, so why was there a huge change in their performances. They scraped through the group stages in 2017/2018 and 2018/2019 which doesn't fit in with how the great sides of the past did. The RS when they were dominating domestic football and European football still didn't destroy teams like the RS did in 2020. The great sides of the past had quality across the park, not just a few good players. The United side who won the league in 2009, had quality across the park and the RS somehow had this success with a small squad. When you take in the style of football they play it becomes even more suspicious.

He big indicator for me was their form in the middle of last season. 

I don’t care what anyone says, a couple of injuries at centreback does not lead to that sort of drop off. They went from being a team that had steamrollered everyone for 2 and a half seasons barely dropping points, to a team that lost 6 in a row at home getting beaten by the likes of Brighton Fulham Everton Burnley Southampton. They then flicked a switch and won a ridiculous number in a row at the back end of the season to make sure they got CL football again. I’ve never seen any other team have a dip in form like that. 

Alexander Arnold and Robertson went from the best full backs in PL history apparently to in danger of not making the England squad, being told he couldn’t defend, and fans wanting Tsimikas over Robertson. Mane and Firmino couldn’t hit a barn door. 

Now they’ve gone straight back to the same form they showed in previous seasons. An odd aberration that coincides precisely with the PED cycle periods.

Wow, so we're cheats then, bollocks!

 

Or could that be just about the biggest load of shite I've read in my life?

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Before klopp we weren't regular in the CL and would get outmuscled in the transfer market by Arsenal, Chelsea, the manc clubs and even spurs sometimes.

 

We never had the money or the pull to get these 50m superstars so had to go for cheaper players and develop them. It really isn't that deep but they just love inventing conspiracy theories as their coping mechanism. 

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24 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

The best thing about it is they all believe the utter shite they come out with as if it's gospel. I hope Spurs fucking bum them now 

It is bizarre that there are that many people and events to consistently conspire against a nomark club like Everton to keep them down at all costs and at the same time constantly help their more successful neighbours. You could have a computer generator of excuses that put Liverpool in a bad light and Everton as the ones hard done by and they would take every one as gospel. 

 

Grown men still cry about Clive Thomas believing it was one of the reasons why it stopped them dominating the game. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

It is bizarre that there are that many people and events to consistently conspire against a nomark club like Everton to keep them down at all costs and at the same time constantly help their more successful neighbours. You could have a computer generator of excuses that put Liverpool in a bad light and Everton as the ones hard done by and they would take every one as gospel. 

 

Grown men still cry about Clive Thomas believing it was one of the reasons why it stopped them dominating the game. 

 

Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. 

They should have studies into the mind of an Evertonian. They'd make One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest look like a Mensa gathering. 

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His logic is so fucking stupid that it's actually offensive. He claims that it took Ronaldo 4 years to enter his prime but Salah was an overnight success. Perhaps that's because one was 18 and the other was 25 you mentalist.

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