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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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7 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

While they fantasise that Everton in 1985/6 were the best team in Europe, in the real world they weren't even the best team in their postal district.

They did have a decent team tbf

However challenging for the double took its toll on them.and to believe they could just waltz their way to the European cup ,with no experience,is utter fantasy.

However its because one of those myths which ,repeated often enough,becomes 'fact'.

Officials from the club have helped maintain that illusion (didnt kendall used to mention it a lot)as it's a useful excuse for the decades of failings with the added bonus of blaming us(their favourite topic)

Even if by some miracle they would have win it over 30 years ago,that would have no influence today,just look at Nottingham forest.

Every single one of the fairytales around heysel can be challenged (they sold their best players,how can you win a league 2 years into a deckine)but logic and reasoning have long left the building.

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9 hours ago, Harry Squatter said:

Kevin Kilbane was on football focus a while back and said that game affected Evertons entire season. 

 

He said every time they asked Collina about a dodgy decision he smirked and wouldn't answer. 

 

Funny the way everyone is against them and things affect them forever. 

Just the first 2 words of that post were enough for anyone with a modicum of sanity to realise that Everton wouldn’t have gone deep in Europe that season and were destined for mid table.

 

Kevin Kilbane

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1 hour ago, Arniepie said:

They did have a decent team tbf

However challenging for the double took its toll on them.and to believe they could just waltz their way to the European cup ,with no experience,is utter fantasy.

However its because one of those myths which ,repeated often enough,becomes 'fact'.

Officials from the club have helped maintain that illusion (didnt kendall used to mention it a lot)as it's a useful excuse for the decades of failings with the added bonus of blaming us(their favourite topic)

Even if by some miracle they would have win it over 30 years ago,that would have no influence today,just look at Nottingham forest.

Every single one of the fairytales around heysel can be challenged (they sold their best players,how can you win a league 2 years into a deckine)but logic and reasoning have long left the building.

The difference with Forest is that they actually won 2 european cups,and even Villa lifted one themselves. 

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55 minutes ago, VladimirIlyich said:

The difference with Forest is that they actually won 2 european cups,and even Villa lifted one themselves. 

But it's made no.difference to where they are now though has it?

The bloos seem to think that of they had have won the European cup in 86,they would still today be some European power house

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/england/liverpool/user_1_article_8.shtml

 

 

While researching his book The Last of the Hitler's, David Gardner was called by his business partner who had just received a letter from someone he described as a “complete whacko”, "some guy says Hitler lived next door to him in Liverpool and they used to go together to watch Everton at Goodison Park. It goes on and on about how he converted Adolf from liking Liverpool when he first came to Britain."

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12 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

While they fantasise that Everton in 1985/6 were the best team in Europe, in the real world they weren't even the best team in their postal district.

Although we won the double we weren't really a great side compared to some of the other sides we had even in that decade.

 

We were miles off them after they beat us at Anfield and even some of the senior players went to Kenny Dalglish saying we needed to change how we played. 

 

We then went on a big winning run and they bottled it at Oxford.

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21 hours ago, Boss said:

Next time you hear an Everton fan talking about that game, just say, "Collina was right. Bent was holding the Villareal defender". Then just sit back and watch the reaction. It's like throwing water on a gremlin.

Another good one is "you only won the league in 1985 because we got complacent and didn't replace Souness properly".

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6 hours ago, Harry Squatter said:

Although we won the double we weren't really a great side compared to some of the other sides we had even in that decade.

 

We were miles off them after they beat us at Anfield and even some of the senior players went to Kenny Dalglish saying we needed to change how we played. 

 

We then went on a big winning run and they bottled it at Oxford.

Agreed

It wasnt a vintage team and we were ,understandably, missing the loss of one of the greatest players in our history, souness.

However we had the mentality to go on that winning run when we were almost out of the picture at one point

That 2 tribes is a great book.

The double. 

Not bad for your 1or ever season in management. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Its seems to be getting like the heysel myth.

Say a lie often enough and it becomes fact.

Where the fuck did that even come from?

 

Some lone Russian bloke on a dodgy Russian account claimed that all of our players were listed as having asthma and were receiving inhaler medication and that it was all to enhance performance. Naturally, a few opposition fans, including Blues, took this as gospel.

 

He was styling himself as an investigative sports journalist and grifting for money.

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