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On 14/08/2021 at 19:41, Nelly-Torres said:

A decent win to start the season for them. Still not enough to make them truly happy though... 

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Maths seems to be wrong there anyway even if there aren't things in place to make it so the top 4 teams are likely to get a promoted side like Barry Wom says.

 

Odds of a newly promoted side each year are 3/19*, the following 2 years are not dependent on the outcome of the previous years.

 

Therefore the probability of getting a newly promoted team is actually 3/19 x 3/19 x 3/19 = 27/6859 which is about 0.39% and actually lower than he claims the likelihood is.

 

Unless the powers that be have changed the rules of probability?

 

Wasn't it the esk who had a running battle with someone on GOT because someone picked up on him actually not having a clue how to read the clubs financial statements?

 

 

*Obviously that would change massively depending on other factors and how the fixture picking factors in things like us and Everton not being at home on the same day or the Manc teams not being at home the same day etc. so I expect the actual odds are somewhat higher once you factored in dependent events like that.

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Why do they always bang on about Liverpool neglecting the area and running it down?.

 

Went to Anfield yesterday with my son and took a few photos with him outside the ground. There's always loads of people walking around there visiting the stadium. The area is still a bit messy but there's been a lot of improvements with new housing, roads and new businesses opening. There's also been a lot of improvements to the Park too which Liverpool paid for. 

 

Then drove round Everton's ground to show him and Everton have done nothing to improve the area, all the streets are run down and there's no evidence of any money being put into the area, it looks far more neglected than the areas round Anfield. 

 

They could argue that they are moving grounds but it's looked like this for at least the last 20 years and well before they announced the unicorn arena. If they do move then the area will be even more neglected.

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Richarlison hasn't had a break and is one of the few players who are currently fully match fit. Let's see if he's still full time of beans come February. 

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14 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

Christ. The Everton badge photoshopped over the picture of a Juventus act of remembrance. Really? 

 

They genuinely do view it as being their disaster too, don't they? Do they not realise how cheap and vile it is to behave like this? 

as i always say, they genuinely believe they were the victims of heysel. they're completely fucking nuts and the younger they are, the more fucking mental they are. 

3 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Why do they always bang on about Liverpool neglecting the area and running it down?.

 

Went to Anfield yesterday with my son and took a few photos with him outside the ground. There's always loads of people walking around there visiting the stadium. The area is still a bit messy but there's been a lot of improvements with new housing, roads and new businesses opening. There's also been a lot of improvements to the Park too which Liverpool paid for. 

 

Then drove round Everton's ground to show him and Everton have done nothing to improve the area, all the streets are run down and there's no evidence of any money being put into the area, it looks far more neglected than the areas round Anfield. 

 

They could argue that they are moving grounds but it's looked like this for at least the last 20 years and well before they announced the unicorn arena. If they do move then the area will be even more neglected.

Didn't you know the EitC trumps absolutely everything because they are the most generous & philanthropic club ever to have existed in the entirety of football? 

 

The area by GP is shocking. They have taken housing to improve their hospitality facilities. and despite this "giving back" to the area when they leave GP, the businesses in the local area will go to the wall. They're quick enough to tell us how many millions of jobs the stadium will create during the build phase - but the reality is, the bulk of peoples spend on match days will move from small local businesses to the chains and multinationals in town. And as those businesses go, what's going to replace them? And we'll all be gutted to see the brick go. 

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6 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

as i always say, they genuinely believe they were the victims of heysel. they're completely fucking nuts and the younger they are, the more fucking mental they are. 

Didn't you know the EitC trumps absolutely everything because they are the most generous & philanthropic club ever to have existed in the entirety of football? 

 

The area by GP is shocking. They have taken housing to improve their hospitality facilities. and despite this "giving back" to the area when they leave GP, the businesses in the local area will go to the wall. They're quick enough to tell us how many millions of jobs the stadium will create during the build phase - but the reality is, the bulk of peoples spend on match days will move from small local businesses to the chains and multinationals in town. And as those businesses go, what's going to replace them? And we'll all be gutted to see the brick go. 

It makes me laugh to see them go on about running the area down when the area round their stadium is completely neglected. The streets look dirty and most shops are closed down. Maybe its because all their fans are local and they don't care about any tourists seeing it?.

 

They blame Liverpool for running down the area yet the council have responsibility to the area yet moved tons of problem families into the Anfield area. I know this as I have a relative who lives near the ground and work with people who live at the back of the KD stand. 

 

Everton ave also contributed to Kirkby being neglected and not having a large supermarket there since they pulled out of the Tesco deal. 

 

Yet they've gone on about Liverpool forcing people out of their homes like tye Chinese government do when they want to build a motorway. The club has always offered people money in excess of their valuation. The only people who refused to go were the two sisters in Kemlyn Road and a couple of landlords who wanted to rinse the club. 

 

Everton also demolished houses on 3 sides of their ground to redevelop it at various points but that never gets mentioned. 

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3 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Why do they always bang on about Liverpool neglecting the area and running it down?.

 

Went to Anfield yesterday with my son and took a few photos with him outside the ground. There's always loads of people walking around there visiting the stadium. The area is still a bit messy but there's been a lot of improvements with new housing, roads and new businesses opening. There's also been a lot of improvements to the Park too which Liverpool paid for. 

 

Then drove round Everton's ground to show him and Everton have done nothing to improve the area, all the streets are run down and there's no evidence of any money being put into the area, it looks far more neglected than the areas round Anfield. 

 

They could argue that they are moving grounds but it's looked like this for at least the last 20 years and well before they announced the unicorn arena. If they do move then the area will be even more neglected.

everton's idea of making the area around the pit look good is giving the local primary buckets of blue paint every year so it looks newish.

 

The bit of ground behind the Park End is a disgrace. What's that they say, it's not owned by everton? No, and neither is the area beyond Anfield's curtilage but they say it's still Liverpool's 'shithole.'

 

As for destroying a world heritage site, dont get me started!

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Just now, dockers_strike said:

everton's idea of making the area around the pit look good is giving the local primary buckets of blue paint every year so it looks newish.

 

The bit of ground behind the Park End is a disgrace. What's that they say, it's not owned by everton? No, and neither is the area beyond Anfield's curtilage but they say it's still Liverpool's 'shithole.'

 

As for destroying a world heritage site, dont get me started!

The gleaming new stadium has already cost the city dear and it is still a pipe dream, Everton aren’t we!

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6 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

It makes me laugh to see them go on about running the area down when the area round their stadium is completely neglected. The streets look dirty and most shops are closed down. Maybe its because all their fans are local and they don't care about any tourists seeing it?.

 

They blame Liverpool for running down the area yet the council have responsibility to the area yet moved tons of problem families into the Anfield area. I know this as I have a relative who lives near the ground and work with people who live at the back of the KD stand. 

 

Everton ave also contributed to Kirkby being neglected and not having a large supermarket there since they pulled out of the Tesco deal. 

 

Yet they've gone on about Liverpool forcing people out of their homes like tye Chinese government do when they want to build a motorway. The club has always offered people money in excess of their valuation. The only people who refused to go were the two sisters in Kemlyn Road and a couple of landlords who wanted to rinse the club. 

 

Everton also demolished houses on 3 sides of their ground to redevelop it at various points but that never gets mentioned. 

You know what, I have no issues with the criticism of both and club and the council over many years when we were tinning properties up at a time when we were supposedly looking to move on from Anfield - even if it was only to the park. We were bad neighbours and the communication between the club and the local residents was way, way below where it should have been. And that indecision had knock on effects in terms of how the area was managed by the city council. I don't feel the need to defend LFC - we behaved badly and while we might have offered good money for people to move, there were plenty of years where we weren't offering people money to go and they had to live next door to tinned up houses that were constantly full of smackheads.  It's important imo, we recognise where the club should do more - and most of this happened or at least started when the club was owned by a fan. It's better now because it's in the economic interests of the club to be better now, I don't believe there should be any pats on the back - even through the recent redevelopments and planning apps to stage non-footballing events, club communication has been less than it should be and has been nothing more than the bare minimum. 

 

But I find it astonishing they they feel able to slaughter us over this, when their club is little different. The only real difference is they've never had an ambition to stay in the area the tell us they love, so they've never tinned up houses. They can't wait to get out. This obsession with people on cruise ships seeing their stadium as their platform to get forward is effectively saying Walton holds them back. They don't want to be there, they just want out for the dream of getting tourists they keep telling us they'd never want. Personally I think L4 is one of the best assets we have and we should take care of it. 

 

They're just absolutely massive hypocrites. They love L4, but can't wait to leave. They love their parochial base, yet long for our tourists. They hate how we've hurt L4, yet they're about to leave all of those businesses in that area to fend without the income of match day and their pubs running along walton road to go into red hands ... and why? Because they think they will own town and attract tourists. 

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45 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

You know what, I have no issues with the criticism of both and club and the council over many years when we were tinning properties up at a time when we were supposedly looking to move on from Anfield - even if it was only to the park. We were bad neighbours and the communication between the club and the local residents was way, way below where it should have been. And that indecision had knock on effects in terms of how the area was managed by the city council. I don't feel the need to defend LFC - we behaved badly and while we might have offered good money for people to move, there were plenty of years where we weren't offering people money to go and they had to live next door to tinned up houses that were constantly full of smackheads.  It's important imo, we recognise where the club should do more - and most of this happened or at least started when the club was owned by a fan. It's better now because it's in the economic interests of the club to be better now, I don't believe there should be any pats on the back - even through the recent redevelopments and planning apps to stage non-footballing events, club communication has been less than it should be and has been nothing more than the bare minimum. 

 

But I find it astonishing they they feel able to slaughter us over this, when their club is little different. The only real difference is they've never had an ambition to stay in the area the tell us they love, so they've never tinned up houses. They can't wait to get out. This obsession with people on cruise ships seeing their stadium as their platform to get forward is effectively saying Walton holds them back. They don't want to be there, they just want out for the dream of getting tourists they keep telling us they'd never want. Personally I think L4 is one of the best assets we have and we should take care of it. 

 

They're just absolutely massive hypocrites. They love L4, but can't wait to leave. They love their parochial base, yet long for our tourists. They hate how we've hurt L4, yet they're about to leave all of those businesses in that area to fend without the income of match day and their pubs running along walton road to go into red hands ... and why? Because they think they will own town and attract tourists. 

Should invade the Brick and make them turn it back into the Red Brick. 

 

They just have this massive complex about being the standard bearers of football who never do anything wrong.

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19 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Should invade the Brick and make them turn it back into the Red Brick. 

 

They just have this massive complex about being the standard bearers of football who never do anything wrong.

The real Red Brick was on Lodge Lane, it was my local and it’s now a Lebanese restaurant I believe.

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Criticising City for having a net spend over 600 million pound more than us in the last 10 years is racism because they have arab owners? Wow. 

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He goes further  down the rabbit hole by saying that the city & PSG owners human rights records are no worse than what American owners (ours) have attached themselves too by supporting Trump. 

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I kind of buzz of catchers obsession. The mental gymnastics, sacrificing what little morals he has by constantly contradicting himself in order to back city and Chelsea’s owners and their regimes and not to mention the constant bitterness that means he has to try and turn our victories into some sort of defeat. 
 

I used to pitty him but now I worry for him I really do.

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I kind of buzz of catchers obsession. The mental gymnastics, sacrificing what little morals he has by constantly contradicting himself in order to back city and Chelsea’s owners and their regimes and not to mention the constant bitterness that means he has to try and turn our victories into some sort of defeat. 
 

I used to pitty him but now I worry for him I really do.

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5 minutes ago, Beno said:

How is our title win tainted,but Cities 3 trophies in the pandemic not?

Hes an utter bellend.

 

Especially since the hard yards were done before the pandemic and our form tanked after it. If anything, it's even more of a monumental achievement. Footballers dealing with a once in a century pandemic having to train with each other on zoom all the while worrying about theirs and their families' health still managed to win the league.

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Our owners are cunts for having a picture with Donald Trump apparently yet he won't mind sitting in a stadium funded by Usmanov who has heavy links to Putin and all sorts the fucking skinny cunt (catchernonce not Usmanov who is a rather large fat cunt) 

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Why is he even bothered about what us and the Manc clubs do?. Just worry about your own club and stop picking apart other clubs who actually compete for trophies. 

 

It's like someone who sits in every Friday and Saturday night watching porn while slagging off other fellas who go out shagging women. 

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