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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:
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Yes they live in a really weird bubble where they just talk to each other and nobody else. Once their ideas hit the outside world, they look stupid. It's partly why just about every fanbase in the country think they are complete buffoons and can't stand them.
Can have a chat about footy with fans of any other club except that lot.
 
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Surely this dope isnot in Oz is he? Only locals and Columbians support the Ev

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11 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Can't believe Rafa has lasted this long tbh 

I can, what other Everton manager has gone this long unbeaten? And a trophy already, not to mention the likely retaining of the transfer window

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Just had a thought, you know how they have the highest wage to turnover ratio in the league (another unique 1st?), imagine (this will be a huge stretch but bear with me) if they actually won something and had to pay out bonuses. What would the ratio look like then? 

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25 minutes ago, Remmie said:

Just had a thought, you know how they have the highest wage to turnover ratio in the league (another unique 1st?), imagine (this will be a huge stretch but bear with me) if they actually won something and had to pay out bonuses. What would the ratio look like then? 

The lawyers who write the bonus clauses in Everton contracts are a bit like the people who fit indicators at the Audi factory.

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Couple of Evertonians I know are shitting themselves because Villa are buying players, Arsenal have bought a couple and Leicester too. If City buy Kane Spurs will have a massive amount to spend and Leeds will probably strengthen too. 

 

Those game changing CL places for Moshiri and his masterplan look further away than ever. 

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5 hours ago, littletedwest said:

I'd likely say their Manchester friends will beat them on that one 

You don't have to get better signings than Liverpool to win the transfer window but they have won the transfer window

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navidson

Player Valuation: £70m
 
One of the reasons why we're in such a crap financial situation is that we haven't cashed in on any of our 'prestige' players over the past few years

Seeing as they appear to be the most aspirational and attainable club to imitate - Leicester have sold Mahrez, Maguire and Chilwell over the past 3 years for nearly £180m

Aston Villa now get the chance to do a hard reset by obtaining £100m for Grealish

Our loveable neighbours have fluked a couple of big money sales recently which has funded the large scale improvements to their squad (The Coutinho, Sterling and Suarez sales basically allowed them to start afresh)
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Surely it’s about time our legal department stepped on this shit.

 

Kever10

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Some roles will show an immediate change. Some will take time for the changes to be apparent.

Take our not so loveable neighbours for instance. If you can score lots of goals but because you have a bang average goalkeeper and defence, you keep losing valuable points, but you can afford to go out and break transfer records to sign 2 of the best players in those positions, you will likely see almost immediate improvement in results. More is the pity.

On the the other hand, if the problem is that your players are not fit enough because you are cycling off whatever "energy drinks", asthma medication or blood doping processes you have installed, then you are just going to have to wait and let things play out until you are in a stronger position to go again, even if you go from runaway champions who dropped 2 points by march in the 1 year to the worst historical home record in the clubs existence the next.


The point is, if Brands is ever going to be successful in his role, it is not something that would ever be instantly apparent or even within 3 years, especially when trying to fix the mess he was left with. And yes, in some respects, he may have partially added to that in the 3 years he has been here, but at the very least, it was with good intentions.

What is the alternative? Say he has a plan and is going to stick to it, so insist we only sign 16 year olds and sit back and wait? We still had to improve the side for the here and now, and in the main part, we have done exactly that, with mostly younger players with a higher ceiling, while trying to shift the god awful mess we were left with when he arrived.

Yes, a few signings have been underwhelming and/or failures, but some of that is also down to bad luck (Gomes and Gbamin for instance).

It's all well and good saying he does nothing, but you don't actually know that. You assume it, because the results you demand/expect haven't arrived yet. And they may not for another 4 years or more.

The indications though are that there has been an overhaul at youth level and we are starting to see the shoots of this coming through. We have signed, with a few notable exceptions, generally a younger crop of players with an eye for further down the line.

If you are expecting instant success from a director of football, taking over this basket case of a club, who spent the previous 2 years handing out insane contracts that no other rational club would consider to bang average journeymen who each arrived with their own humungous transfer fees that we would never be able to claim back in month of sundays, a club who had already hired and fired 2 managers in the previous 2 years, also on ridiculous contracts, and were still paying each of them off as well, and at the same time, had a transfer ban on youth players to contend with, then you really need to take a look at the criteria for your expectations.
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2 minutes ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

The tales they tell themselves to feel adequate. 

The short ugly bloke who stares at himself in the mirror and sees a tall, toned, attractive bloke looking back at him. 

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1 hour ago, Anubis said:

Fluked…

navidson

Player Valuation: £70m
 
One of the reasons why we're in such a crap financial situation is that we haven't cashed in on any of our 'prestige' players over the past few years

Seeing as they appear to be the most aspirational and attainable club to imitate - Leicester have sold Mahrez, Maguire and Chilwell over the past 3 years for nearly £180m

Aston Villa now get the chance to do a hard reset by obtaining £100m for Grealish

Our loveable neighbours have fluked a couple of big money sales recently which has funded the large scale improvements to their squad (The Coutinho, Sterling and Suarez sales basically allowed them to start afresh)

Who are Everton's "prestige" players?

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2 hours ago, Anubis said:

Surely it’s about time our legal department stepped on this shit.

 

Kever10

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What is the alternative? Say he has a plan and is going to stick to it, so insist we only sign 16 year olds and sit back and wait?

All things considered, talking about young teens might have been a bad hypothetical for a Bloos fan right now, particularly if they’re already dabbling in libel themselves. 

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2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Who are Everton's "prestige" players?

Lets pretend selling Lukaku 4 years ago for 90ml(75+15 in addons) and buying Sigurdsson,Keane and Klassen with the money didn't happen. Or that they've spent 536ml in the past 5 years. More than anyone but Chelsea and the manc clubs. 60ml more than us who are the 5th biggest spenders

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