*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Davelfc]

12 hours ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/echo-comment-fears-of-witch-hunt-against-liverpool-fc-part-3.107670/post-8267454

 

I think catcher in the rye fears for us, I think he really does.

 

there’s not an element of our club he’s not a bona fide expert on, but this is super.

 

catcherintherye

Player Valuation: £70m

 

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number4. said:

If I was to guess, he knew this might come & they were planning to break up the team with one or two big sales this summer and a rebuilding job. Covid scuppered that and as such they doubled down on the same team for one more year which has blown up in their face.

Certainly does feel like the cliff edge and you are right, its a vicious cycle, More injuries means more risk to those remaining........

Regarding the juicing point, it simply cannot be unique to one team or manager, there is too many staff (medical and players) moving between clubs for this to remain confidential. Either they are all at it and it is systemic across the board or the more likely is that they are pushing sports science and TUE's to the absolute max. Although, when you look at the fuentes case and the Dr's involved there, it would suggest that certainly one, if not two of the Big two in spain have crossed the line.

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I think a couple of things happened for them and it's been a bit of a perfect storm. Firstly nobody wanted Mane in summer 19. Madrid wouldn't go beyond 70m. They wanted in excess of 100, it got laughed off.

The crisis then happened, and they were in essence the traderleft with too much stock in a brutal recession. Loads of players, on long term deals who now will not only not gain much value, but actually you struggle to get rid of them.

It killed the market for Wilson, Shaqiri, Origi, Grugic, Brewster, Chamberlain, Karius etc. There are more but I'm a bit too ill tonight to think of them. In most cases they are left loaning them out, and only getting some of their wages met. Not big fees as they hoped.

I think they had hoped for fans to be back by now. Each game they are not it's killing them. United's financial results are grim, and theirs will be much much worse.

They have a Manchester City style wages budget, with a good but not world leading commercial operation and now not being able to trade. Those players they have are drains.

I can see why their owners are panicking and making idiots of themselves, making outlandish moves. It's panic.

In fairness it's not their owners fault. They were doing what you should do in good teams. Hedging and being bold on them continuing. Unfortunately recessions are cruel, and often punish people unduly who had previously done the right things. The trader with too much stock comes to mind.

 

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You have to laugh, I mean Red Ronnie and Big Sam lumbered them with crap, Sam bought Tosun who they just cannot shift and he's on a decent wedge and a long contract. They are slowly shifting the shite but it's really affected them, hence their over £100m loss. 

 

Hames is reverting to form and going missing since he realised they are mostly shit and the cold weather is coming. 

 

Taking out loans each year on TV money they have yet to receive and an owner that is owed more than the club is worth in cash he's had to pump in and all they can do is try to paint that shit on us?

 

I have absolutely no doubt that this ban on supporters is hurting us more than it is hurting everton, but they were already in deep shit before all of this happened. They are the club that took ALL of this seasons cash from its fans and is drip feeding it back in instalments. 

 

Fans will receive a pro-rata refund for every Premier League fixture they are unable to attend. These refunds will be processed in three instalments throughout the campaign – in November 2020, February 2021 and June 2021.

 

That was a statement from their club in September, things may have changed. Surely nobody expects football to resume with fans this season so just give them their money back.

 

Our club didn't charge a penny, so which club is hanging on desperately to fans cash at a time when they might need that money the most? 

 

Which club lost a record sum last season, and only avoided Premier League sanctions with an absolutely legitimate £30million up front to secure an exclusive option on naming rights for the club’s proposed new stadium by Uncle Ussy? Something the premier league said it would look in to but much like the Pickford 'assault' was ignored.

 

Which club sells it's best players, even their top scorer to a club they finished above the season before? (Lukaku)

 

 

Catcher takes their current plights and dresses us up in them so they those that read his shite can release their pent up emotions, this is the closest to porn it gets for an evertonian. 

 

 

 

 

[General Dryness]

Haven't they got the highest wage to income ratio of any club in the Prem? Like 75% of their income goes on wages?

 

Fucking divvies.

[Tj hooker]

11 hours ago, Stickman said:

Like The Stone Roses at Spike Island, Tony Hibberts testimonial has take on mythical proportions in that every blue likes to say they were there...

 

A bit like the 3.5 million that were inside the pit when Dixie got his 60th goal 

[Total Longo]

2 hours ago, DalyanPete said:

Grade A gobshite and that's a bit unfair on gobshites.

He was banging on on Twitter a week or so ago about the "persecution" of Pickford being because he's a Catholic and by putting two and two together and making five he concluded that it was because Liverpool fans notoriously hate Catholics. Even though he got pulled up on it by about absolutely loads of people (including Blues) he didn't back down. I don't even follow him but because other people responded it kept appearing on my TL.  So i muted the whopper. He's like that person has that has books by Sartre and Nietszche on display on his bookshelf, despite never reading them. I'll be surprised if he 's even read The Catcher in the Rye. 

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

He must of read a catcher in the rye. He's an angst ridden Holden Caulfield mourning the death of success at his club, paranoid full of conspiracy and depression blaming the world for his own inadequacies. If he was in the US he'd probably be stockpiling weapons and raging about phonies.

[Peter Cormack]

Catcher is one poisonous cunt, he might improve once his balls drop and he discovers the opposite sex. He’s also a coward who only allows a select few to answer his tweets.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

They have more shite they can’t shift than anyone and as for wage bills hahahaha!

Say it enough and they believe it. Catcher is in my opinion residing in an ‘ institution’ the mental bastard.

[Leyton388]

14 hours ago, Stickman said:

I’m jealous at some of the replies .....

 

GrandOldTeamGrandOldTeam

@grandoldteam

What's your "I was there" game that you'll always remember?

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/grandoldteam/status/1326944076869066753

How could they forget?

 

 

[Remmie]

33 minutes ago, Leyton388 said:

How could they forget?

 

 

When Pickford throws his tiny arms up there, what do you think he is protesting against? A mad shout at offside, the crossbar fouled him, why wasn't someone marking the crossbar? 

[Mudface]

12 minutes ago, Remmie said:

When Pickford throws his tiny arms up there, what do you think he is protesting against? A mad shout at offside, the crossbar fouled him, why wasn't someone marking the crossbar? 

He often does that when it's clearly his fault. Just the usual loud-mouth trying to blame someone other than himself.

[dockers_strike]

1 hour ago, Leyton388 said:

How could they forget?

 

 

It's just gets better every time I see this. I nearly missed it as when Virgil hoyed that attempted lob into the box, I looked up in the cold Anfield air and thought 'what the fuck is that?' only to see Pickford flap at it and Divock being in the right place to pounce!

 

Oh how we celebrated, it was a mixture of funny as fuck, elation and relief! One can only imagine the utter desolation of the shite hordes in the Annie Road end which just made the moment even more delicious. Fuck 'em!

[Stickman]

10 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

It's just gets better every time I see this. I nearly missed it as when Virgil hoyed that attempted lob into the box, I looked up in the cold Anfield air and thought 'what the fuck is that?' only to see Pickford flap at it and Divock being in the right place to pounce!

 

Oh how we celebrated, it was a mixture of funny as fuck, elation and relief! One can only imagine the utter desolation of the shite hordes in the Annie Road end which just made the moment even more delicious. Fuck 'em!

I remember being in the pub and I didn’t celebrate for a second or two as I thought it was the ridiculous that for some reason it couldn’t possibly count 

[liverpoolsno9]

12 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

It's just gets better every time I see this. I nearly missed it as when Virgil hoyed that attempted lob into the box, I looked up in the cold Anfield air and thought 'what the fuck is that?' only to see Pickford flap at it and Divock being in the right place to pounce!

 

Oh how we celebrated, it was a mixture of funny as fuck, elation and relief! One can only imagine the utter desolation of the shite hordes in the Annie Road end which just made the moment even more delicious. Fuck 'em!

Ha ha, ‘attempted lob’ might be pushing it a bit! 

[liverpoolsno9]

2 minutes ago, Stickman said:

I remember being in the pub and I didn’t celebrate for a second or two as I thought it was the ridiculous that for some reason it couldn’t possibly count 

tellyclapper

[dockers_strike]

7 minutes ago, liverpoolsno9 said:

Ha ha, ‘attempted lob’ might be pushing it a bit! 

Haha, yeah but I couldnt think of anything else how to describe it.

[aws]

More of an angled chip than an attempted lob. 

[Jairzinho]

11 minutes ago, aws said:

More of an angled chip than an attempted lob. 

That's quite a decent description of his arms.

[Leyton388]

It was a lobbed pass off the bar from Virgil. Totally deliberate and right off the training ground.

[Halcyon Days]

1 hour ago, dockers_strike said:

It's just gets better every time I see this. I nearly missed it as when Virgil hoyed that attempted lob into the box, I looked up in the cold Anfield air and thought 'what the fuck is that?' only to see Pickford flap at it and Divock being in the right place to pounce!

 

Oh how we celebrated, it was a mixture of funny as fuck, elation and relief! One can only imagine the utter desolation of the shite hordes in the Annie Road end which just made the moment even more delicious. Fuck 'em!

You wonder what excuse the twats running VAR would come up with to disallow it nowadays. Ball was out of play, foul on keeper? Who the fuck knows. One of them goals that just makes you smile.

[Leyton388]

Oh that would have definitely been ruled out by VAR. Moments like this no longer happen in football. That instant joy and celebration is gone. 

 

The recent goal disallowed by VAR in the Derby is a perfect example. 

[manwiththestick]

3 hours ago, Halcyon Days said:

You wonder what excuse the twats running VAR would come up with to disallow it nowadays. Ball was out of play, foul on keeper? Who the fuck knows. One of them goals that just makes you smile.

Hello? Magnets in the goal posts obviously.

[VladimirIlyich]

8 hours ago, Leyton388 said:

How could they forget?

 

 

The funnies thing about that is Big Div's nonchalant reaction as if to say 'What's the big deal? I always score against this shite.'

[Harry Squatter]

Still no idea why he grabs the ball and tries to run back to the halfway line in the 96th minute. Not sure he even did that when he scored the first against Barcelona and we needed another 2 to draw the tie  level.

[No2]

8 hours ago, Leyton388 said:

How could they forget?

 

 

Everytime I watch it I see a different players reaction. Its amazing, 4 players from each team and all 8 react differently. Pickfords reacts in 5 different ways. Its actually a piece of modern performance art.

 

Edit: I'm on to checking out the crowd now. The lad in the grey to the right knows Pickford has fucked up before Pickford does. A lad on the left in a half and half scarve is obviously half Welsh half Norwegian because he looks like he's up for both teams.

[General Dryness]

26 minutes ago, No2 said:

Everytime I watch it I see a different players reaction. Its amazing, 4 players from each team and all 8 react differently. Pickfords reacts in 5 different ways. Its actually a piece of modern performance art.

 

Edit: I'm on to checking out the crowd now. The lad in the grey to the right knows Pickford has fucked up before Pickford does. A lad on the left in a half and half scarve is obviously half Welsh half Norwegian because he looks like he's up for both teams.

I like the way right at the start of the clip the advertising board says "priceless". How appropriate.