*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Peter Cormack]

Alan Ball was a good player, excellent short ball passer; dodgy temprement could be man marked out of the game, as Ian Ross proved. He gave his best performances against us playing for the arse not the BS.

[Trumo]

23 minutes ago, Jedd Drudge said:

Gazza?

 

Even at their worst times he failed to turn up with a fishing rod, some beers and a bucket of fried chicken, so he can't care that much about them either. 

 

I think you'll find that his Everton training sessions were preparation for the Moaty intervention.

[Stickman]

13 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

True

 

"The Andy King derby"

 

"The Andy Johnson derby"

 

"The Phil Jagielka derby"

Don’t forget Lee Carsley 

[Manny]

In all seriousness I've always found their reverence for Dunc to be downright weird. I'm not going to trash him or rewrite history - he was a perfectly decent PL striker in the 90s. But it would be like us elevating a perfectly decent PL striker like Craig Bellamy or Peter Crouch to our hall of fame. They're both good players who are remembered fondly - and Crouch has a certain cult status attached to him as well - but there's no way we're holding them up alongside Billy Liddell, Kenny Dalglish or John Barnes.

[Tj hooker]

I would have thought Hans Segers that famous Wimbledon keeper would be high up on the legends list for  keeping them up .

[Total Longo]

18 minutes ago, Manny said:

In all seriousness I've always found their reverence for Dunc to be downright weird. I'm not going to trash him or rewrite history - he was a perfectly decent PL striker in the 90s. But it would be like us elevating a perfectly decent PL striker like Craig Bellamy or Peter Crouch to our hall of fame. They're both good players who are remembered fondly - and Crouch has a certain cult status attached to him as well - but there's no way we're holding them up alongside Billy Liddell, Kenny Dalglish or John Barnes.

That's just it though isn't it? We've got loads of players who have enriched our history, even when the team itself wasn't that good. They haven't, hence why a big Scottish fella who scored the odd goal against Liverpool and got an Everton tattoo is going to be lauded as a great by them. 

 

Levels.  

[Bob]

Where would someone like Kuyt sit in their echelons?

 

he was well liked here and was a good player for a few years and is fondly thought of since leaving, but he’s nowhere near legend status.

 

The comparison of goals and games between fund and heskey has been done before but Kuyt was better and generally more fondly thought of than him, but for me a good bar for comparison.

[No2]

1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

Was Alan Ball actually any good?. My old boss used to go on about him like he was better than Maradona. 

Souness was on the radio last week and he said Alan Ball, Zico and John Giles were the only players he could never get near. I watched a lot of old games during lock down and Ball stood out to me, he was different to everyone else at the time.

[Rotpeter]

15 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

Where would someone like Kuyt sit in their echelons?

 

he was well liked here and was a good player for a few years and is fondly thought of since leaving, but he’s nowhere near legend status.

 

The comparison of goals and games between fund and heskey has been done before but Kuyt was better and generally more fondly thought of than him, but for me a good bar for comparison.

Kuyt, when asked, "Whats everton's nickname?", replied, "The Bitters.".

 

Legend.

[Bjornebye]

17 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

Where would someone like Kuyt sit in their echelons?

 

he was well liked here and was a good player for a few years and is fondly thought of since leaving, but he’s nowhere near legend status.

 

The comparison of goals and games between fund and heskey has been done before but Kuyt was better and generally more fondly thought of than him, but for me a good bar for comparison.

They go on about him more than us 

[Total Longo]

17 minutes ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

Where would someone like Kuyt sit in their echelons?

 

he was well liked here and was a good player for a few years and is fondly thought of since leaving, but he’s nowhere near legend status.

 

The comparison of goals and games between fund and heskey has been done before but Kuyt was better and generally more fondly thought of than him, but for me a good bar for comparison.

Based on that challenge on Phil Neville, if he had played for them they'd have a statue up of him outside Goodison by now

[Halcyon Days]

My father-in-laws a blue told me many a story about how good The Golden Vision was. Tbf my dad (a red) in his 70s saw him back in the day too and agrees he was a cracking player. Struggling with recent history though it’s just one big list of bums.

[Bjornebye]

Baines and Coleman have been decent players for them. I definitely thought Baines would have moved to a bigger club at one point. I still can't believe Eto'o payed for them. He had played for Anzhi Makhachkala before he went there though and 3 goes in 14 games proves he wanted a pay-day. I bet he was gutted when he got paid in Blossom Hills, Sterling Dual and a free 6 month on-line subscription to the Echo. 

[Harry Squatter]

36 minutes ago, No2 said:

Souness was on the radio last week and he said Alan Ball, Zico and John Giles were the only players he could never get near. I watched a lot of old games during lock down and Ball stood out to me, he was different to everyone else at the time.

Fair enough, wasn't aware that he was that good, not old enough to have seen him play but never really paid any attention to him. Just heard a load of Evertonians hyping him up.

[Tj hooker]

49 minutes ago, No2 said:

Souness was on the radio last week and he said Alan Ball, Zico and John Giles were the only players he could never get near. I watched a lot of old games during lock down and Ball stood out to me, he was different to everyone else at the time.

Who would you compare Ball too who's playing now 

[No2]

7 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Who would you compare Ball too who's playing now 

I only seen a few highlights packages, he looked like a pass and move type, maybe Grealish.

[Tj hooker]

4 minutes ago, No2 said:

I only seen a few highlights packages, he looked like a pass and move type, maybe Grealish.

Thanks I must have seen him play but not to the extent of appreciating exactly where he fitted in tactically wise 

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Tj hooker said:

Thanks I must have seen him play but not to the extent of appreciating exactly where he fitted in tactically wise 

I was gonna say John you must have been mid 20's when he was in his pomp! 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

My mate is a red and had white Alan Ball boots in the mid 70’s.

[sir roger]

I had a pair of white Hummel Alan Ball boots , and was pleased when Steve Heighway brought out his red /ox blood Stylo Matchmakers so I could be a purer fan.

[aws]

Ball was a great player. Tidy, quick, tenacious, good passer. If I had to compare him to anyone I'd say he was a Scholes who could tackle. 

[Tj hooker]

48 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

I was gonna say John you must have been mid 20's when he was in his pomp! 

Hahahaha born in 61 so about 10 when they won the title 

[Red74]

5 hours ago, Doctor Troy said:

Thought they had bought the land. So in April it will have been 5 years and they haven't even bought the land?. Like Red74 said, why choose a site that has so many heritage concerns and hurdles to overcome when they could have easily built a stadium out by the East Lancs road with a massive amount of space, no planning concerns and close to motorway links etc?

 

Wonder if David Conn will do an article on how their indecision has run down Walton, ruined Kirkby town centre and now stalling on a major site that was originally earmarked for development by Peel?

 

Peel are probably made up as it takes the heat off them to build something there as they are halfway into a 30 year masterplan that has yielded two buildings at Princes Dock. The cruise line and IOM ferry terminals were separate from their "development"

 

Development moves at a glacial pace in Liverpool normally without people employing further stalling tactics. 

Sure I read they're taking out a 99 year lease on it

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

3 minutes ago, Red74 said:

Sure I read they're taking out a 99 year lease on it

 

They'd need 3 leases before there was a spade in the ground

[AngryOfTuebrook]

49 minutes ago, Red74 said:

Sure I read they're taking out a 99 year lease on it

They've got an agreement to enter into a lease, once they get planning permission.  

 

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