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On 13/07/2019 at 18:59, Anubis said:

Already posted two posts above you. Slow arse.....

Didn't show on my timeline. Blame Twatter or Dave Usher.

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For some strange reason they’re sending their PR man down to parliament to tell everyone how their stadium isn’t just being built for EFC.  It’s for the good of the city as a whole and will bring £800m over some numerous amount of years according to some (paid off completely made up nonsense) study.  This exercise is absolutely nothing to do with the getting the state to pay towards the stadium because they can’t afford it themselves and have no way of securing a 500-600m loan to cover the minimum cost.

 

When asked about the funding which every lunatic Everton fan will tell you is in already in place this Kenyon guy dodges the question giving that same nonsense about having various options which they can decide on at a later point.  I’ve gone from not being too arsed if it got built as long as the council didn’t get involved because it would almost definitely bankrupt them when the Ev defaulted on the loan.  It would bring a lot of short term jobs to people in the construction industry which would be a good thing.  Now though I can’t wait until they realise it’s not happening because of the amount of deluded arrogant bell ends that are going on and on about it as if there’s absolutely no chance of it falling through. 

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Meanwhile, in the Everton boardroom Moshiri and Brands finish discussing Bramley Moore Dock...

 

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I hope they do build it because I genuinely think it would eventually bankrupt them. 

 

It's only loans from Moshiri and that Chinese credit facility that keeps them going, stick another half a billion plus interest on top of that and they're digging a hole for themselves they'll never get out of.

 

Here's hoping.

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51 minutes ago, derykw said:

I hope they do build it because I genuinely think it would eventually bankrupt them. 

 

It's only loans from Moshiri and that Chinese credit facility that keeps them going, stick another half a billion plus interest on top of that and they're digging a hole for themselves they'll never get out of.

 

Here's hoping.

And the city will have some nice new roads and a new train station. Win all round. 

 

They will somehow need to find another 60m a year and get charged massive amounts of interest plus they are highly unlikely to get in the top 4 continuously in the near future. 

 

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So they have signed Delph.....who was the beaut on GOT who talked about all our players being over the hill as they approached 27/28.

 

Delph being 30 in a few months obviously means he is in his absolute prime

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If you want a laugh go and read the stadium thread.  There’s about 3 pages of them talking about selling corporate tickets and making more money that way.  There aren’t words to describe how funny it is.  You just have to read it.

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1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

And the city will have some nice new roads and a new train station. Win all round. 

 

They will somehow need to find another 60m a year and get charged massive amounts of interest plus they are highly unlikely to even get near the top 4 at any point in the future. 

 

Fixed.

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17 minutes ago, niallers said:

The City/Bloo love-in on that thread is hilarious.

 

What’s with these embarrassing announcement videos. Just stop. Just fucking lean on something.

 

In a year’s time you’ll have replaced Theo as the aged, overpaid hate figure.

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15 minutes ago, niallers said:

Leaving the Treble winners - the team who racked up 198 points in two seasons - to join the epitome of mid-table "meh" was a massive opportunity he couldn't refuse.

 

I can only assume he's being sarcastic. 

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From yesterday's Times. Highlights in bold.



Everton will meet MPs to discuss ‘golden’ stadium plans
Henry Winter, Chief Football Writer

July 15 2019, 5:00pm, The Times

Everton visit the House of Commons today as they step up engagement for their Bramley-Moore Dock stadium proposal, which they argue will transform a dilapidated area of north Liverpool. “This is a golden opportunity,” Richard Kenyon, Everton’s director of marketing, communications and community, will tell politicians.

Relocating from their historic home at Goodison Park is proving a long, complex and inevitably emotional process. The Liverpool Echo comment sections brim with acerbic jousting between Liverpool and Everton fans about the development. Unesco closely follows events on a World Heritage site and the docks are on the list of sites at risk of losing their status.

This meeting with MPs, backed by the Premier League, marks a significant moment in Everton raising awareness for their scheme. Central to the club’s argument is the beneficial impact on all in the city.

“We want people to understand that this is not just a new stadium for Everton,” Kenyon said. “It is more than a stadium. It is more than a game. The socio-economic impact will be huge.”

The socio-economic consultancy RealWorth calculates the impact to be worth £793.4 million over a ten-year period to what Kenyon calls “health and well-being, environment, crime reduction and the preservation and creation of civic amenities”.


Everyone agrees the area needs attention and investment. “North Liverpool has some of the most disadvantaged wards in the country,” Kenyon continues. “There remains severe deprivation less than a mile or so from what is now a vibrant, bustling, increasingly cosmopolitan European city centre. North Liverpool is in desperate need of jobs, investment, physical regeneration and sustained social programmes, all of which our new stadium can deliver.

“This is a golden opportunity for north Liverpool. It is more than a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. It is an opportunity that the north end of the city hasn’t had for decades and possibly never will again. If you saw this dock, it’s not a tourist attraction, it’s derelict, nobody goes. The (Grade II listed) hydraulic tower in severe disrepair. We’re going to repair it, bringing it back to life.”

The dock walls are also listed and Everton are very mindful of allaying Unesco’s concerns. “This will allow people to appreciate it [Bramley-Moore],” Kenyon adds of the plan. He will emphasise to MPs the club’s desire to “celebrate and showcase the heritage of the site”.

Everton fans crave any indication of what their new home will look like. They know it is planned for a 52,000 capacity, with rail seating and the target of opening in 2023. When one supporter tweeted Dan Meis, the stadium architect, about the belief that new English stadia are “not intimate or intimidating because of modern regulations”, Meis’ response was “just wait and see”.

His plans for Stadio della Roma are built around a “focus on intimacy and home-pitch advantage”, he has voiced his admiration of the sweeping, single-tier south stand at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium while the new Cincinnati MLS stadium boasts a steep, single tier behind one end housing the most vocal fans in “The Bailey”.

When first approached about the project, Meis was told by Robert Elstone, then the chief executive, that Everton’s new home had to be a “cauldron of energy with the steepest stands right on top of the pitch and a massive home end”.

Encouragingly for the fans, Meis appears to have fallen “in love” (his words) with the club. He has a Duncan Ferguson shirt and Everton mug in his office in Santa Monica, a club scarf signed by Tim Howard while a scoreboard on the wall displays “1878”, the year Everton were founded. He also now has an 1878 tattoo.

Fans’ hopes will be clarified when they finally see Meis’ designs. Everton are confident the design will be spectacular and enhance the famous city skyline, and promote the city globally. “Our stunning city-centre skyline will be in the background of every broadcaster’s coverage, one billion people worldwide every other week,” Kenyon says. “We don’t get that at Goodison; when drones hover over the stadium, they pick up the parks and the area we’re in.

“This is different. You see a historic but also a modern cityscape. It is rapidly becoming a city that people aspire to come to, a cool city, one of ‘the’ places to visit, and a lot of this is based on our history of culture through the Beatles and through football. A new stadium in this location will drive more visitors and further position the city as a dynamic, cultural destination with football at its heart. The value to the city in exposure will be significant and sustained. It’s not like a marketing campaign that has a time limit.”

Kenyon will point out to politicians that “redeveloping Goodison is not an option with site constraints too significant to overcome”. Much focus will inevitably be on what will become of Goodison. Kenyon, the club’s dynamic chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale, the chairman Bill Kenwright and the majority share-holder Farhad Moshiri are adamant that Everton will not follow the route taken by some clubs with their old home.

“Goodison will not just be sold off to the highest bidder for a new supermarket, retail park, or an unsympathetic housing estate,” Kenyon says. “We plan to do something innovative, original and befitting of who we are as a football club . . . the People’s Club. Our vision is to create a development that benefits the local community.”

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Personally, I'd go with.....

 

 

Dear, ******* *****

I am a constituent of yours and I would like to see every opportunity given to the Liverpool Waters project for the redevelopment of Liverpool's north end dockland, but without the proposed new Everton FC Bramley Moore Dock Stadium. Quite frankly, the stadium does not fit with the excellent proposals overall, and given Everton FC are not well known around the world and have no recent history of success as a football club, the prospect of visitors arriving by air and water being greeted by an eyesore synonymous with failure would be a poor advert for the city.  While the overall Liverpool Waters project will bring thousands of jobs to the Liverpool City Region, the stadium must not be given priority over and above any other consideration, especially the potential impact from the loss of UNESCO's World Heritage Status. I would like you as my MP to give it your support.

R.S.V.P.



Yours, ******** *******
 

 

 

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From today's Times.

Everton will meet MPs to discuss ‘golden’ stadium plans
Henry Winter, Chief Football Writer

July 15 2019, 5:00pm, The Times

Everton visit the House of Commons today as they step up engagement for their Bramley-Moore Dock stadium proposal, which they argue will transform a dilapidated area of north Liverpool. “This is a golden opportunity,” Richard Kenyon, Everton’s director of marketing, communications and community, will tell politicians.

Relocating from their historic home at Goodison Park is proving a long, complex and inevitably emotional process. The Liverpool Echo comment sections brim with acerbic jousting between Liverpool and Everton fans about the development. Unesco closely follows events on a World Heritage site and the docks are on the list of sites at risk of losing their status.

This meeting with MPs, backed by the Premier League, marks a significant moment in Everton raising awareness for their scheme. Central to the club’s argument is the beneficial impact on all in the city.

“We want people to understand that this is not just a new stadium for Everton,” Kenyon said. “It is more than a stadium. It is more than a game. The socio-economic impact will be huge.”

The socio-economic consultancy RealWorth calculates the impact to be worth £793.4 million over a ten-year period to what Kenyon calls “health and well-being, environment, crime reduction and the preservation and creation of civic amenities”.


Everyone agrees the area needs attention and investment. “North Liverpool has some of the most disadvantaged wards in the country,” Kenyon continues. “There remains severe deprivation less than a mile or so from what is now a vibrant, bustling, increasingly cosmopolitan European city centre. North Liverpool is in desperate need of jobs, investment, physical regeneration and sustained social programmes, all of which our new stadium can deliver.

“This is a golden opportunity for north Liverpool. It is more than a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. It is an opportunity that the north end of the city hasn’t had for decades and possibly never will again. If you saw this dock, it’s not a tourist attraction, it’s derelict, nobody goes. The (Grade II listed) hydraulic tower in severe disrepair. We’re going to repair it, bringing it back to life.”

The dock walls are also listed and Everton are very mindful of allaying Unesco’s concerns. “This will allow people to appreciate it [Bramley-Moore],” Kenyon adds of the plan. He will emphasise to MPs the club’s desire to “celebrate and showcase the heritage of the site”.

Everton fans crave any indication of what their new home will look like. They know it is planned for a 52,000 capacity, with rail seating and the target of opening in 2023. When one supporter tweeted Dan Meis, the stadium architect, about the belief that new English stadia are “not intimate or intimidating because of modern regulations”, Meis’ response was “just wait and see”.

His plans for Stadio della Roma are built around a “focus on intimacy and home-pitch advantage”, he has voiced his admiration of the sweeping, single-tier south stand at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium while the new Cincinnati MLS stadium boasts a steep, single tier behind one end housing the most vocal fans in “The Bailey”.

When first approached about the project, Meis was told by Robert Elstone, then the chief executive, that Everton’s new home had to be a “cauldron of energy with the steepest stands right on top of the pitch and a massive home end”.

Encouragingly for the fans, Meis appears to have fallen “in love” (his words) with the club. He has a Duncan Ferguson shirt and Everton mug in his office in Santa Monica, a club scarf signed by Tim Howard while a scoreboard on the wall displays “1878”, the year Everton were founded. He also now has an 1878 tattoo.

Fans’ hopes will be clarified when they finally see Meis’ designs. Everton are confident the design will be spectacular and enhance the famous city skyline, and promote the city globally. “Our stunning city-centre skyline will be in the background of every broadcaster’s coverage, one billion people worldwide every other week,” Kenyon says. “We don’t get that at Goodison; when drones hover over the stadium, they pick up the parks and the area we’re in.

“This is different. You see a historic but also a modern cityscape. It is rapidly becoming a city that people aspire to come to, a cool city, one of ‘the’ places to visit, and a lot of this is based on our history of culture through the Beatles and through football. A new stadium in this location will drive more visitors and further position the city as a dynamic, cultural destination with football at its heart. The value to the city in exposure will be significant and sustained. It’s not like a marketing campaign that has a time limit.”

Kenyon will point out to politicians that “redeveloping Goodison is not an option with site constraints too significant to overcome”. Much focus will inevitably be on what will become of Goodison. Kenyon, the club’s dynamic chief executive Denise Barrett-Baxendale, the chairman Bill Kenwright and the majority share-holder Farhad Moshiri are adamant that Everton will not follow the route taken by some clubs with their old home.

“Goodison will not just be sold off to the highest bidder for a new supermarket, retail park, or an unsympathetic housing estate,” Kenyon says. “We plan to do something innovative, original and befitting of who we are as a football club . . . the People’s Club. Our vision is to create a development that benefits the local community.”
Given this upcoming meeting today, maybe get emailing to the relevant MP's (template below).


Re today's meeting with Everton FC representatives:

Dear, ******* *****

I am a constituent of yours and I would like to see every opportunity given to the Liverpool Waters project for the redevelopment of Liverpool's north end dockland, including the proposed new Everton FC Bramley Moore Dock Stadium. The project will bring thousands of jobs to the Liverpool City Region and must be given priority over and above any other consideration, including any potential impact from the loss of UNESCO's World Heritage Status. I would like you as my MP to give it your support.

R.S.V.P.



Yours, ******** *******

<address>

luciana.berger.mp@parliament.uk

dan.carden.mp@parliament.uk

louise.ellman.mp@parliament.uk

stephentwiggmp.co.uk

bill.esterson.mp@parliament.uk

eaglem@parliament.uk

eaglea@parliament.uk

fieldf@parliament.uk

margaret.greenwood.mp@parliament.uk

alison.mcgovern.mp@parliament.uk

 

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13 hours ago, cloggypop said:

Hunger, ambition. Kinell

He may well have those qualities so why the fuck has he switched to those perennial losers 

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We’re going to repair it, bringing it back to life.” 

 

Or rather you are once you give us the money to do it .

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These loons seriously think hordes of tourists are going to head to an area that has a shitfarm and smelly heavy crude oil storage, to see a stadium that will not only look completely at odds with its settings but, belongs to a club that is infamous for now being the city's second club (even if first founded) and, has won the square root of fuck all since the 1990!? And there's nothing else to see or do 'there'?

 

Sorry for the long sentence but just where is the grip on reality here? Think I just spotted a flaw in my comment, there!

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