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8 minutes ago, Angie81 said:

Exactly the kind of comment I’d expect from a fan of a club who can’t even qualify.

Apparently, now it's a shit competition because City aren't in the final.

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I am 100% certain that if everton somehow got to the CL final, that the same rules would be applied and they wouldn't be arsed as it has lost its prestige. 100%.

 

OK, maybe a little less than 100% sure. Maybe around 0% sure.

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Their place in the firmament is established by the fact that European competitions started in 1955 and in the subsequent 64 years Everton have never actually played Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Ajax or PSG   never mind beaten any of them. Their top European scorer is Fred Pickering with 6.

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They've only ever had one famous European night of note against Bayern. 

 

They had an easier route to that semi final than Man City did this year in the League Cup.

 

University College Dublin

Inter Bratislava 

Fortuna Sittard 

 

Then Rapid Vienna in the final.

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8 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

They've only ever had one famous European night of note against Bayern. 

 

They had an easier route to that semi final than Man City did this year in the League Cup.

 

University College Dublin

Inter Bratislava 

Fortuna Sittard 

 

Then Rapid Vienna in the final.

V's

The School of Regret, Woe and science

 

 

Reading bitterness, regret and self loathing - 1892 to the present day

 

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41 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Their place in the firmament is established by the fact that European competitions started in 1955 and in the subsequent 64 years Everton have never actually played Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, Ajax or PSG   never mind beaten any of them. Their top European scorer is Fred Pickering with 6.

Where as more people have heard of Ronnie Pickering

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1 hour ago, Doctor Troy said:

They've only ever had one famous European night of note against Bayern. 

 

They had an easier route to that semi final than Man City did this year in the League Cup.

 

University College Dublin

Inter Bratislava 

Fortuna Sittard 

 

Then Rapid Vienna in the final.

As a former student of University College Dublin, I'm embarrassed to this day...

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Apparently, we have no right to complain about City breaking the rules as the FA gave us favourable treatment as we're the only team who didn't have any points deducted when we went into administration under Hicks & Gillett. 

 

I love these lads. They're great entertainment. 

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15 hours ago, liverpoolsno9 said:
Inside the mind of a Blue over the Champions League, a competition dying on its arse
 
 
 
Saint Domingo

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m

Spurs being in the final with them has completely punctured the build up to it this year for them. It’s completely different from last year where every outlet was banging on about the final since the first leg of the semis. No one seems arsed this year. Two premier league teams who everyone knows aren’t as good as City having a kick and rush fest in the final after seeing off a team of Ajax kids in the semi and an over the hill Barca. 
Uefa need to reshape the CL if they want to retain interest in it as at the moment it’s being ruined by too much weighting on home advantage in two legged ties and away goal rules. Teams can get to the final having lost every single away game they play in the competition. There’s no other competition in football you can do that in.

We’re starting to see a trend more and more though of teams winning titles in the top leagues being unable to go the distance in the CL. The CL semi finals are no longer bringing together the best 4 teams in Europe. In fact it’s turning into a lottery of which team doesn’t have any major domestic distractions and gets lucky with injuries/fixtures/ the placement of the tie come March/April. City and PSG would have beat any of the semi finalists at a neutral venue, and both went out via away goals having not even been beaten outright over two legs. It’s just a glorified European version of the FA cup now.

In any competition you want to see top teams playing each other at the business end. No one I. Europe would have Europe’s 4 best teams without City in it. Liverpool and Spurs both lost numerous games in the group stages and the knockout stages but a team potentially unbeaten in the tournament can go out on away goals after drawing a tie whilst a team that has lost up to 6 games and hasn’t won away from home at all can get to the final. It’s bizarre and doesn’t occur in any other competition.

Being domestic champions shows that over 38 games against all opponents home and away in different conditions you have prevailed as the best. Spurs can lose their last x number of games in the league, focus solely on the tie with City, still be outplayed tactically but can scrape past them on away goals. That wasn’t tactical naivety by City. They suffered by having to rotate for the first leg at Spurs due to having so many key games. We’ve seen Real do the same recently, sacking off their league games in order to raise their game for one off fixtures in the CL. Liverpool did the same last season. If Kompany hadn’t of scored v Leicester and Liverpool had the league in their hands I doubt very much they would have gone all out for that 4-0 win instead potentially resting players for their must win game against Wolves to be champions. 
No one is saying that the CL isn’t a big trophy but it’s no longer delivering the best team in Europe as the winner. In fact the teams regarded as the best on the continent are struggling to make the latter stages even now. No one is denying that the CL isn’t entertaining but like anything the European elite will not allow a format that does not deliver the major European powers to the top on a regular basis to persist for long. The CL was built on prestigious games between Europe’s top teams not scrappy under dog stories. They’ve entertained a few like Mourinho’s Porto or your run in 05 but if they continue to see Porto Roma Spurs Ajax Liverpool Sevilla proliferating in the latter stages of the competition whilst Juventus Bayern Barca PSG United are being knocked out early doors regularly then change will be inevitable.

 



It’s great viewing once we get to the ko stages, I do enjoy watching it but it’s been a long time since the runners have been acknowledged as the best team in Europe. I couldn’t tell you the last time a team won it who actually managed to win there own domestic league.



Like the FA cup I do think it’ll die a death soon if it doesn’t get revamped. 
This year it seems not as relevant as it did in the past, even last year. I don’t know if that’s down to the English european dominance or 2 teams contesting the final who lost 9 games between them en route and haven’t won a league for a combined 90 years. It just seems to be getting bit Mickey Mouse but I do think they’ll change the format soon.

 

 

before i get called bitter blue and all that, it lost all credibility in 2005 when a team not even good enough to finish above a team with marcus bent up front "won" it, and UEFA didn't even have the foresight to have a rule in place for the possibility of a winner not being good enough to qualify for it.



Like you say, it's supposed to be the best team in europe but everyone knows the best team in europe is never actually the champion anymore, it's lost all prestige and to me any romance seeing as you have a core of about 16 teams who are in it every year. It's dull now, you end up with the same teams playing each other every couple of years it seems. Just get the actual champions and a couple of second placed teams in there and have a real competition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An Evertonian talking about European football, I've heard it all now. 

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Some stuff in the rags today about a video of Wayne Rooney supposed to be embarrassed by a video of his brother with tommy Robinson. Suppose it’s about time he got revenge for all the times he’s been embarrassed. Drunk driving a car with a prostitute while away from your pregnant wife, springs to mind. 

 

 

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Everton have now also vowed to ban their fans if they are caught selling tickets above face value , since the warning almost 90% of Everton fans have put their tickets on secondary sites in hope of never stepping foot in that wooden shithole ever again.

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19 hours ago, liverpoolsno9 said:
Inside the mind of a Blue over the Champions League, a competition dying on its arse
 
 
 
Saint Domingo

Saint Domingo

Player Valuation: £70m

 

before i get called bitter blue and all that, it lost all credibility in 2005 when a team not even good enough to finish above a team with marcus bent up front "won" it, and UEFA didn't even have the foresight to have a rule in place for the possibility of a winner not being good enough to qualify for it.

 

 

The Champions League lost all credibility in 2005 when the winners finished 5th in their league... and not 2 years earlier when the exact same thing happened. 

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2 hours ago, chrisbrand said:

Once Everton has touched you...

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That's got to be one of the shittest articles ever written by the Echo. Riquelme was an Internet blag, they bid less than an agreed fee for Shearer and they might have signed Ian Rush because he supported them. But they didn't and he went to Liverpool. 

 

Must be no stadium news today.

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1 hour ago, Marko121 said:

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/evertons-biggest-transfer-regrets-revealed-16311034

 

would love to know how bidding £12.5m for Alan Shearer when Newcastle had already agreed £15m counts as a near miss? 

 

 

And while none of those mentioned ever made it to Goodison it has not stopped the Blues signing a plethora of world-class talent and that is becoming evident in the team Marco Silva is building today.

 

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13 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

That's got to be one of the shittest articles ever written by the Echo. Riquelme was an Internet blag, they bid less than an agreed fee for Shearer and they might have signed Ian Rush because he supported them. But they didn't and he went to Liverpool. 

 

Must be no stadium news today.

Next update on that is due June 2.

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