*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Josef Svejk]

59 minutes ago, Josef Svejk said:

 

To be fair, Newcastle contributed to the hilarity, too.

 

 

[Josef Svejk]

2 minutes ago, manwiththestick said:

Same could be said the other way, Coleman is done at this level, Keane is terrible and they may be missing Mina and Godfrey after they went of injured last night.

 

Lampard could have a different experience of the Goodison atmosphere than he got last weekend as reality hits.

I hope you're right, but it's difficult to see Leeds beating anyone at the moment, given form and especially injuries. 

[Harry Squatter]

 

 

 

 

[littletedwest]

I can't see them going down sadly. Shit though they are the others are worse. Burnley have won one game all season for example.

Still fingers crossed 

[Harry Squatter]

Still can't believe that nothing happened to Mason Holgate after lying about Firmino racially abusing him just to get out of being sent off.

[Harry Squatter]

1 minute ago, littletedwest said:

I can't see them going down sadly. Shit though they are the others are worse. Burnley have win one game all season for example.

Still fingers crossed 

We will end up helping them if we beat Burnley and Norwich in the next few weeks. Pity Watford had the masterstroke of hiring two past it managers who have no experience of fighting relegation.

 

Brentford are also shite and dropping further down. They will get battered by City.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

12 minutes ago, Harry Squatter said:

Still can't believe that nothing happened to Mason Holgate after lying about Firmino racially abusing him just to get out of being sent off.

The Fates punished him by keeping him at Everton.

[Scott_M]

Has that tectonic plate that seems to reside under Liverpool shifted back into place now that another power shift has ended? 

[Anubis]

Top work, Turdseye.

 

 

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Carlito said:

It's been some drop off since he hit 26 league goals in his first two seasons (13 and 13).

To go from that to 11 in one and half is alarming.

A couple of pages ago someone was peddling this whole “we’ll get £80/100 million for him when he goes” fantasy. This is one of the problems with Everton. It’s not just the incompetent management, who’ve blown hundreds of millions on dud players over the past decade, it’s just not the players themselves, most of whom aren’t up to it and/or lack heart and mental toughness, it’s also the delusional fans. 

Big clubs do not spend £80/100 million on forwards who are as unproductive in terms of goals and assists as Richarlison. The only way you could hope to get close to £80 million for him—let alone the insane sum of £100 million—is if you were to find somewhere in Europe a club even more badly run and prone to pour money down the drain than Everton.

Big clubs do not spend £80/100 million on players in mid-career whose *best position* isn’t even clear. And, if we’re being honest, the whole ‘best position’ argument is in this case as it nearly always is a proxy for the real issue: he’s neither fish nor fowl. He’s not quite good enough at playing with back to goal or productive enough in G/A to play as a striker, not quick or skilful enough to compare with elite wide forwards like Salah, Son, Mane etc and not good enough at dribbling/passing to play as a 10.

Jota went for £40/45 million. That was considered risky fir Liverpool/quite a hefty fee, considering his inconsistency at Wolves and it not being clear what his best position was. Now he is worth c. £70 million, because he has performed consistently since his move. He like Richarlison is a forward who can play from the left or through the middle. If you look at every comparative stat between him and Richarlison since his move he is clearly performing at a higher level than Richarlison. Yes, he’s in a better team. But even the notorious ‘eye test’ tells you that he is currently a better player. Now if Jota is only rated currently at c. £70 million, how can Richarlison be worth £80/100 million?

[johnsusername]

3 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

What are the odds on us winning the title and relegating them by beating them at Anfield? I like to dream big.

That's the spirit. This is the kind of big idea I can get behind. 

[Boss]

They've collected 9 points in the last 17 games. Norwich and Newcastle have collected 16 points, and Leeds 20 points. They're going down.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

7 minutes ago, Boss said:

They've collected 9 points in the last 17 games.

I'd be happy for them to pick up 9 in the next 17.

[JagSquared]

13 minutes ago, Boss said:

They've collected 9 points in the last 17 games. Norwich and Newcastle have collected 16 points, and Leeds 20 points. They're going down.

Stop I can only get so erect.

[Harry Squatter]

15 minutes ago, Boss said:

They've collected 9 points in the last 17 games. Norwich and Newcastle have collected 16 points, and Leeds 20 points. They're going down.

Don't jinx it

[Simbo]

I can’t see it happening. Surely their form with pick up slightly soon? They can’t be this bad for the rest of the season. Can they?

 

IF they do go down they’ll be fucked won’t they? No parachute payments this year due to the deal struck during the pandemic?

[TD_LFC]

25 minutes ago, Simbo said:

I can’t see it happening. Surely their form with pick up slightly soon? They can’t be this bad for the rest of the season. Can they?

 

IF they do go down they’ll be fucked won’t they? No parachute payments this year due to the deal struck during the pandemic?

They might find themselves stuck for a few seasons while they desperately try and restructure the team.

 

Generally the teams who bounce straight back are the ones who prepare to go down anyway and have a team prepped for the championship while those who sign big players on big wages struggle to get back up.

 

Newcastle were probably the exception to that rule.

[Josef Svejk]

1 minute ago, TD_LFC said:

They might find themselves stuck for a few seasons while they desperately try and restructure the team.

 

Generally the teams who bounce straight back are the ones who prepare to go down anyway and have a team prepped for the championship while those who sign big players on big wages struggle to get back up.

 

Newcastle were probably the exception to that rule.

They should hire whoever that Newcastle manager was. 

[Harry Squatter]

27 minutes ago, Simbo said:

I can’t see it happening. Surely their form with pick up slightly soon? They can’t be this bad for the rest of the season. Can they?

 

IF they do go down they’ll be fucked won’t they? No parachute payments this year due to the deal struck during the pandemic?

I think they will get out of it, the spawny cunts. The thought of them getting relegated and having no parachute payments is just too much to get your hopes up over. As it would finish them off and just put them in a phantom zone of shitness. 

 

They would have to sell most of their squad but would only get buttons because most of the shithouses would want to leave and Everton would need to reduce their wage bill as its on 89% of their income.  The squad needs to be good enough to compete in a tough league. 

 

Sacking Lampard and his large amount of coaching staff would cost them a bit even though they will be on 2 year contracts at the end of the season. 

 

The stadium costs would cripple them and the other factor is that most clubs in the Championship actually get punished for FFP breaches like Sheffield Wednesday,  Derby and Birmingham. . 

 

If they were properly punished it would stop them coming straight back up or even better, get them relegated again. 

[Talismanic]

This is all too much to hope for, surely?

[Scooby Dudek]

It's the hope that kills you. Despite their poor form they are still in charge of their own destiny. It says everything about how shite the others must be. 

Newcastle has spent but unfortunately the others below then will remain below them. *

 

 

 

 

 

 

* I am normally wrong on shit like this and hopefully that will continue here 

[Total Longo]

12 minutes ago, Talismanic said:

This is all too much to hope for, surely?

Yes. Yes it is. Burnley, Norwich and Watford do not have any where near the squad Everton have. They may only just stay up, but sadly i think that ultimately they will stay up.    

[manwiththestick]

11 minutes ago, Talismanic said:

This is all too much to hope for, surely?

I remember in the 90's when Forest had a half decent team and started badly, every month it was,  yeah nothing to worry about, they're too good to go down but their run continued and other teams pulled them into the fight.

 

Fingers crossed.

[dockers_strike]

1 hour ago, Simbo said:

I can’t see it happening. Surely their form with pick up slightly soon? They can’t be this bad for the rest of the season. Can they?

 

IF they do go down they’ll be fucked won’t they? No parachute payments this year due to the deal struck during the pandemic?

Why cant they go down? Sure, any team down the bottom could escape relegation if their form picked up but, there's a reason why those clubs are down there and it's because their form is consistently bad.

 

If they do get relegated they'll sell off the likes of pickford, richarlison and erm, who else? I read that that Kean they have out on loan at Juve is attracting the interest of PSG and talk of £30m was mentioned. Even without the parachute, they'll have some fresh money coming in from sales but with their track record, who knows what shite they'd buy?

[No2]

Watched 20 minutes of Everton and about the same for Burnley. The lump Burnley have signed is exactly what they needed, I think they will be alright. Norwich and Watford are too bad to stay up, Newcastle are heading in the right direction. If Brentford don't sink like a stone Everton are gone because they aren't getting themselves out of this mess.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

2 hours ago, Boss said:

They've collected 9 points in the last 17 games. Norwich and Newcastle have collected 16 points, and Leeds 20 points. They're going down.

They are too good to go down.

 

*keep baiting the football gods*