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*Shakes head* Everton again.


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11 hours ago, Tj hooker said:

The county road gets bigger and bigger by the day it would seem 

My mate has been adding Colombian " fans" on Facebook and Twatter the last couple of weeks and getting all excited about the fact that people outside County Road and Rhyl know they exist. 

 

Yet a few weeks earlier was saying at least the environment has had a break from Norwegians flying over to Liverpool for home games during lockdown. 

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21 minutes ago, Doctor Troy said:

My mate has been adding Colombian " fans" on Facebook and Twatter the last couple of weeks and getting all excited about the fact that people outside County Road and Rhyl know they exist. 

 

Yet a few weeks earlier was saying at least the environment has had a break from Norwegians flying over to Liverpool for home games during lockdown. 

The hypocrisy is completely lost on those idiots 

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I hope they do get a big Columbian following and they make a big deal out of it. Their "local" tag is the only thing they think they have left and they can't wait to get rid of their last remaining part of their identity in the hope of finishing 6th and having some decent Instagram action. So when it all goes to shit down the line, they'll have nothing left to cling to. They won't even be the people's club any more. 

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They have thrived on being the local, parochial true scouse club for years. Now they want to be this big global force. 

 

Or being the true local scouse club but acting like Uncle Toms inviting scouse hating Mancs into their pub for buffets, letting them put their flags up. Also forming a bizarre friendship with Man City, despite their fans getting beaten up inside the Etihad during the league cup semi final. 

 

Just like when they were proud to be a proper club who had no money, doing things the right way unlike der redshite but as soon as Moshiri took over they were bragging about how much money they were going to spend. 

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17 hours ago, RJ Fan club said:

Haha, he’s a mutual Facebook friend. Had to check as I know we’re both from Waterloo way. 
 

I have been wondering when he was gonna run outta shirts, not before they run out of Efes by the looks 

If he runs out of shirts he may find it tough to buy one in Turkey, never heard of the cunts

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8 minutes ago, DalyanPete said:

If he runs out of shirts he may find it tough to buy one in Turkey, never heard of the cunts

Although if he wants shirts in big clubs' colours, they're about £5 a dozen in Dalyan market. (At least, they were when I was on holiday a few years ago. )

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5 hours ago, Barrington Womble said:

I hope they do get a big Columbian following and they make a big deal out of it. Their "local" tag is the only thing they think they have left and they can't wait to get rid of their last remaining part of their identity in the hope of finishing 6th and having some decent Instagram action. So when it all goes to shit down the line, they'll have nothing left to cling to. They won't even be the people's club any more. 

 

IfithadnebinferthoseMedellinkids...

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I genuinely wonder how Colombians see his move to Everton. Are they just happy he's going somewhere to play? Do they even know who/what Everton is? You know, pertinent questions.

Anyone who knows anything about football has Everton fc on their radar. There have been great players like Andy Johnson, Lukaku, Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini, Rooney, Bent ... Relevant and classy players. How not to know Everton?

It is obvious that we are here for Rodríguez, but many of us are more fans of soccer than of a player. Im from Colombia.Thanks for the welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus fucking Christ.

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32 minutes ago, scudger99 said:
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I genuinely wonder how Colombians see his move to Everton. Are they just happy he's going somewhere to play? Do they even know who/what Everton is? You know, pertinent questions.

Anyone who knows anything about football has Everton fc on their radar. There have been great players like Andy Johnson, Lukaku, Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini, Rooney, Bent ... Relevant and classy players. How not to know Everton?

It is obvious that we are here for Rodríguez, but many of us are more fans of soccer than of a player. Im from Colombia.Thanks for the welcome

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jesus fucking Christ.

Red on a wind up, no doubt about it. 

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I'm not sure what is new here, although maybe it's just official. Imagine the fume. 

 

Edit... Although it seems to me the fundamental issue is filling the dock in, which I'm not quite sure it should have take 4 years to get to this point. 

 

Historic England under fire over new Everton stadium objections

  • Accused of ‘huge mistake’ by Northern Powerhouse Partnership
  • Employment and economic benefits of project highlighted
 
Published:13:46 Tue 15 September 2020
 Follow Andy Hunter
 

Historic England has been accused of making a “huge mistake” in objecting to Everton’s plans for a new stadium at Bramley Moore dock, at a time when the economy is in desperate need of the jobs and investment it will bring.

Everton last week submitted an amended planning application for the proposed 52,888-capacity stadium on Liverpool’s waterfront following feedback from Liverpool city council and other statutory consultees. Historic England, the Victorian Society and ICOMOS, a heritage body acting on behalf of Unesco, are opposed to the Grade II listed dock being filled in and want the project called in by the government.

That has prompted fierce condemnation from the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, which claims Liverpool’s world heritage status will do more harm than good for the city should it be used against Everton’s scheme.

Henri Murison, director of the partnership, said: “Unnecessarily delaying a £1bn mega-project such as this – which will support constructions sectors and related trades in the coming years and will create 15,000 jobs – would be a huge mistake at a time when we’re facing rising unemployment, with this a material economic intervention in the city region.

“Historic England reading of the requirements of the World Heritage Status – which has already served its purpose in establishing its visitor brand – shows the time may have come when its disadvantages for the city outweigh any residual benefits it brings.

“In reality, the power of such a scheme can prove transformative in unlocking the true economic potential of Liverpool and the north in the short and long term. Projects like this represent a critical example of the role forward-thinking organisations like Everton and their wider partners can play in investing in local communities and building back better, one step at a time closing the north-south divide.”

Everton intend to restore several heritage features at Bramley Moore, including a Grade II listed hydraulic tower and tramlines, and the contentious dock walls would be preserved under the stadium. They could be re-engineered back into a dock should the club leave what is a disused site inaccessible to the public.

The Victorian Society believes the plans are “unacceptable” and would cause “incontrovertible harm” to the dock. In a detailed explanation of its objections Historic England claims alternative solutions for the dock are available and Liverpool does not face “a stark choice between dereliction or football stadium”.

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“We have had extensive and productive discussions with the club about how best to develop the new stadium at Bramley-Moore dock and understand the attraction of this exceptional location,” it said. “However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would fundamentally change its historic character as a water-filled basin which so clearly tells the story of the docks and has contributed to its status as a World Heritage Site.

“Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we regrettably think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the damage to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.”

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2 minutes ago, Barrington Womble said:

I'm not sure what is new here, although maybe it's just official. Imagine the fume. 

 

Historic England under fire over new Everton stadium objections

  • Accused of ‘huge mistake’ by Northern Powerhouse Partnership
  • Employment and economic benefits of project highlighted
 
Published:13:46 Tue 15 September 2020
 Follow Andy Hunter
 

Historic England has been accused of making a “huge mistake” in objecting to Everton’s plans for a new stadium at Bramley Moore dock, at a time when the economy is in desperate need of the jobs and investment it will bring.

Everton last week submitted an amended planning application for the proposed 52,888-capacity stadium on Liverpool’s waterfront following feedback from Liverpool city council and other statutory consultees. Historic England, the Victorian Society and ICOMOS, a heritage body acting on behalf of Unesco, are opposed to the Grade II listed dock being filled in and want the project called in by the government.

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That has prompted fierce condemnation from the Northern Powerhouse Partnership, which claims Liverpool’s world heritage status will do more harm than good for the city should it be used against Everton’s scheme.

Henri Murison, director of the partnership, said: “Unnecessarily delaying a £1bn mega-project such as this – which will support constructions sectors and related trades in the coming years and will create 15,000 jobs – would be a huge mistake at a time when we’re facing rising unemployment, with this a material economic intervention in the city region.

“Historic England reading of the requirements of the World Heritage Status – which has already served its purpose in establishing its visitor brand – shows the time may have come when its disadvantages for the city outweigh any residual benefits it brings.

“In reality, the power of such a scheme can prove transformative in unlocking the true economic potential of Liverpool and the north in the short and long term. Projects like this represent a critical example of the role forward-thinking organisations like Everton and their wider partners can play in investing in local communities and building back better, one step at a time closing the north-south divide.”

Everton intend to restore several heritage features at Bramley Moore, including a Grade II listed hydraulic tower and tramlines, and the contentious dock walls would be preserved under the stadium. They could be re-engineered back into a dock should the club leave what is a disused site inaccessible to the public.

The Victorian Society believes the plans are “unacceptable” and would cause “incontrovertible harm” to the dock. In a detailed explanation of its objections Historic England claims alternative solutions for the dock are available and Liverpool does not face “a stark choice between dereliction or football stadium”.

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“We have had extensive and productive discussions with the club about how best to develop the new stadium at Bramley-Moore dock and understand the attraction of this exceptional location,” it said. “However, we consider that the proposal to infill the dock would fundamentally change its historic character as a water-filled basin which so clearly tells the story of the docks and has contributed to its status as a World Heritage Site.

“Due to the impact of the proposals on a World Heritage Site, which has the highest level of heritage protection and is internationally significant, we regrettably think that this application should be determined by the Secretary of State and will ask for it to be called in for his determination. We have also advised that the application should be refused, unless the decision-maker concludes that the public benefits would outweigh the damage to Bramley-Moore dock and the harm to the World Heritage Site which the proposals would cause.”

There are discussions to be had on both sides of this argument. Just saying something will 'create jobs' is a crock of shit but then again objecting against a huge development while letting thousands of private residences be built on many other disused docks smacks of hypocrisy to me. As long as Everton fund it all and no money comes from public funds,I'd apply the same to Liverpool as well,then go for it IF its a real possibility. Mind you if your club has been spouting 'new stadium' bollocks since the 1990s then its unlikely to happen.

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