Andy Carroll, what does he do?

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The interesting thing about Andy is hes shown in the past theres a beast of a player in there but the big problem is, Newcastle played to his strengths and their style of football was designed to suit him.

 

The big problem is it would be madness for us to change to suit him, so basically its up to him to adapt to us. Which so far hasn't really looked promising.

 

When has he though? I keep hearing this but I've genuinely never seen him play a match where I've thought 'fucking hell this lad's something else'. He was lauded by Newcastle - partly at least because of the Jay Spearing factor of him being a local lad - and he scored a goal against us. Is that all it takes for him to be rated? Bearing in mind when he came onto the Premiership scene with Newcastle he was largely unknown and defenders didn't know what he was all about. Once he's sussed though, he's fucked - and that's disregarding the fact he doesn't actually try and isn't very good.

[Phoenix]

You have to wonder whether he could have headed that downwards a bit more, like you're taught in school. Then Hart doesn't save it.

 

Thats exactly what i thought.

 

He really doesnt fit it into our system. As soon as he is on, the fluidness and movement disappears.

[Mathewbet1]

I think it was noticeable Suarez dropped 10 yards further back into midfield yesterday when Andy " carthourse" came on. This the key if they are to play together Suarez has to drop back that little bit deeper and help out in midfield.

[Il Fenomeno]

I don't understand this stuff about needing to support Carroll more. He has two songs of his own, he is cheered louder than any player bar Suarez or Gerrard when he comes on, and even when he plays poorly he gets a standing ovation off the pitch.

[LFC 6 Times]

What a massive fuck up of a signing this has been, even yesterday when Bellamy was withdrawn Carroll can't get a game at home, at the time he signed I'm on record as calling him a "shit alehouse thug" sadly I have been proved right on two counts, surprisingly his discipline has been quite good. What are we going to do with him, I can't figure out any formation that would fit him in, especially when Steven and Bellamy start playing regularly, his "strengths" are not suitable to our most successful style of play.

[Beantown Red]

Well he can't take a penalty

[zigackly]

If he had scored that penalty, no one would be on his case now. Brilliant save from wotsisface.

[TommyW]

there's 45 mins to go

 

or is there a prize for getting digs in early?

[Biscao]

Carroll's had a decent 1st half. Kept the ball up great, got us a penalty, should've had another one. Better players have missed pens for us this season, it happens - deal with it.

[LFC 6 Times]

No one would be on his case if he wasn't shit, look I keep hearing if he had buried Tha header against Norwich, hit the ball two inchs lower against Swansea, if Joe Hart didn't make a world class save and the best one if he has scored that penalty. The fact is he consistently hasn't he has no energy and makes our play worse. If only konchesky was a good left back or poulsen and a good defensive midfielder then we wouldn't be on their cases.

[withnail71]

Boy aint lyin. carroll is shit, no matter how you dress it up. He is a terrible waste of 35m quid.

[Rafiagra]

He's led the line very well tonight.

 

Penalty smacked of someone short of confidence.

 

Encouraging display tonight. I'm sure a goal will come sooner rather than later. Just need to create for him.

[withnail71]

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Penalty smacked of someone short of any skill, pace, effort, fitness, vision....

 

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;-)

[Guest LFD]

He's led the line very well tonight.

 

Penalty smacked of someone short of confidence.

 

Encouraging display tonight. I'm sure a goal will come sooner rather than later. Just need to create for him.

 

He was fucking awful!

[zigackly]

No one would be on his case if he wasn't shit, look I keep hearing if he had buried Tha header against Norwich, hit the ball two inchs lower against Swansea, if Joe Hart didn't make a world class save and the best one if he has scored that penalty.

 

Disappointing catch tonight; I'm afraid I'm going to have to throw this one back.

[Funkasy]

I think he did okey tonight, nothing special but something better that we have seen earlier.

[James Dean]

He was ok, and at best that's all he'll ever be I fear. There's just nothing there.

[Guest LFD]

I think he did okey tonight, nothing special but something better that we have seen earlier.

 

What did he do that was good?

 

He was offside whyen he shouldn't have been, due to lazyness / dopeyness.

 

He gave away more fouls than anyone else.

 

Bellamy kept the ball better than him - he is meant to be an outlet, he wasn't.

 

Was he a threat? No, not at all.

 

He jogged around a bit - but other than that was ineffective and Ngog is better than this guy.

[dirk grout]

He's led the line very well tonight.

 

Penalty smacked of someone short of confidence.

 

Encouraging display tonight. I'm sure a goal will come sooner rather than later. Just need to create for him.

 

Held the ball up very well, thought his all round play was pretty good. It was obviously his intention to hit the pen up the middle which, with hindsight, was a mistake.

[dirk grout]

What did he do that was good?

 

He was offside whyen he shouldn't have been, due to lazyness / dopeyness.

 

He gave away more fouls than anyone else.

 

Bellamy kept the ball better than him - he is meant to be an outlet, he wasn't.

 

Was he a threat? No, not at all.

 

He jogged around a bit - but other than that was ineffective and Ngog is better than this guy.

 

N'gog?!! Clueless. Maybe we should try him on the wing?

[dirk grout]

He was fucking awful!

 

There was only one expensive number 9 on the pitch tonight whose performance was ' fucking awful'.

[Guest LFD]

N'gog?!! Clueless. Maybe we should try him on the wing?

 

Clueless? Carroll was awful and he has been since he arrived.

 

Oh I forgot to mention he also missed a penalty in my post above.

 

You are happy with him are you Grout? I'm used to seeing strikers like Owen, Fowler, Torres, Rush...

 

Carroll is in the Ngog, Erik Meijer bracket.

[ngogswilly]

I dont buy this hes lazy stuff.

 

Thought he worked hard tonight and helped contribute to a great win. I think its unfair to say hes not trying.

 

Won't deny hes woefully bad in other respects, but I do think hes at least trying.

[Guest LFD]

No one has said he isn't trying. He just isn't good enough.

[dirk grout]

No one has said he isn't trying. He just isn't good enough.

 

A part from you of course who accused him of laziness.