Andy Carroll, what does he do?

[Stu Monty]

Yeah but you realise continues doesn't make any sense because he's never been great or done a great job?

 

In your opinion.

 

Allardyce, their fans and their players would probably pretty much all disagree with you.

 

They didn't finish in the top half of the table because of Carlton Cole. He had a very good season for them and has an average rating well beyond anyone else in their squad. He is a POMO manager's wet dream.

 

You stick to your guns but there's a reason Allardyce is spending that money on him and its because he was the most important player in the squad last season and the main reason, apart from the manager himself, they finished in the top half.

[RobbieOR]

I'd argue that Kevin Nolan and his goals were more important than Carroll.

[Stu Monty]

I'd look at how many of Kevin Nolan's goals came about. It's a perfectly decent view to think that but I'd say that having Carroll there brings the best out of Nolan's ability to get onto the second ball and nobody creates second ball opportunities like Carroll does.

 

I don't want him here but he's a hugely effective player for the right side. Literally unstoppable at times.

[RobbieOR]

Nolan was playing a fair bit with Carlton Cole too. Same as the year before. Big man knocking the ball down for him. Carroll is just a more potent version of Cole.

[Stu Monty]

Nolan was playing a fair bit with Carlton Cole too. Same as the year before. Big man knocking the ball down for him. Carroll is just a more potent version of Cole.

 

I'm a more potent version of Cole. Hardly saying much.

[Kevin D]

I think he's one of the worst strikers I have seen consistently start for us, I was absolutely stunned watching him play at times, and did not think we would be able to get this much back for him, so credit to everybody involved.

[Code]

I think he's one of the worst strikers I have seen consistently start for us, I was absolutely stunned watching him play at times, and did not think we would be able to get this much back for him, so credit to everybody involved.

 

He did not consistely start for us though and that makes it even funnier he is used as a stick to beat former manager with as some kind of misguided support for the current one.

[WhiskeyJar]

He did not consistely start for us though and that makes it even funnier he is used as a stick to beat former manager with as some kind of misguided support for the current one.

 

Do you read your posts?

 

Troll.

[bossy]

 

He did not consistely start for us though and that makes it even funnier he is used as a stick to beat former manager with as some kind of misguided support for the current one.

 

I still quite like Carroll but I can understand why he's no longer with us, unlike you who use him as a stick to beat our current manager with as some kind of misguided support for a former one.

[Code]

I still quite like Carroll but I can understand why he's no longer with us, unlike you who use him as a stick to beat our current manager with as some kind of misguided support for a former one.

 

Sorry for supporting a manager who got us to two finals last season and woin us our first trophy in 6 seasons, it will never happen again.

 

After reading posts from the likes of you, the guest, major tom numero moody etc, I've learned its all about competing and not really winning, as all it does is to create losers.

[Mark M]

Sorry for supporting a manager who got us to two finals last season and woin us our first trophy in 6 seasons, it will never happen again.

 

After reading posts from the likes of you, the guest, major tom numero moody etc, I've learned its all about competing and not really winning, as all it does is to create losers.

 

If its all about winning why keep bringing up getting to 2 finals when we only won one.

And got our arse handed to us in the FA cup I don't see that as something to brag about.

You must think when we got to Athens in 07 as an incredible achievement even though we lost as that is surely better than getting to an FA cup final and losing.

[Code]

Getting to Athens was superb, reaching finals is the real achievement, because when it finally kicks off, its usually down to narrow margins and a bit of luck.

[Mark M]

Getting to Athens was superb, reaching finals is the real achievement, because when it finally kicks off, its usually down to narrow margins and a bit of luck.

 

Fair enough. So it's not about winning then. In your opinion.

[Cardie]

So who broke Code?

[Code]

Fair enough. So it's not about winning then. In your opinion.

 

Winning is what its all about and when you have reached a final you have got yourself into a position to do exactly that.

 

But finals usually are very narrow contests and often its down to who win the penalty shoot out or not, so if you reach a final you have done a good job no matter what, but sadly you cant win them all.

[Stu Monty]

Winning is what its all about and when you have reached a final you have got yourself into a position to do exactly that.

 

But finals usually are very narrow contests and often its down to who win the penalty shoot out or not, so if you reach a final you have done a good job no matter what, but sadly you cant win them all.

 

So it's all about winning....but losing can be okay too.

 

Cool.

[Mark M]

All that is needed is Code's tag to change at the bottom of his posts from Winning.

To

Winning. (Unless its a final and losing is ok)

[FrenchEyeGlass]

Hilarious, considering I distinctly remember you blaming Rafa for our loss in Athens and also discounting it as much of an achievement. I could go back and dig up the posts but I cannot be arsed. I've done it about five times before and instead of holding your hands up you'll just mumble your way out of it.

[Judge]

Winning is what its all about and when you have reached a final you have got yourself into a position to do exactly that.

 

But finals usually are very narrow contests and often its down to who win the penalty shoot out or not, so if you reach a final you have done a good job no matter what, but sadly you cant win them all.

 

So what does that say about Rafa, who got us to the greatest final in club football twice in three years? (with a FA-cup win inbetween).

[bossy]

 

Sorry for supporting a manager who got us to two finals last season and woin us our first trophy in 6 seasons' date=' it will never happen again.

 

After reading posts from the likes of you, the guest, major tom numero moody etc, I've learned its all about competing and not really winning, as all it does is to create losers.[/quote']

 

You are full of shit code. I supported Kenny. I supported Benitez and now I support Rodgers.

[Stu Monty]

You are full of shit code. I supported Kenny. I supported Benitez and now I support Rodgers.

 

This doesn't compute.

 

What an utterly bizarre way to behave.

[Code]

So what does that say about Rafa, who got us to the greatest final in club football twice in three years? (with a FA-cup win inbetween).

 

Great stuff, just a shame he totally lost his way.

[Saintslfc13]

You are full of shit code. I supported Kenny. I supported Benitez and now I support Rodgers.

 

[Nightcat]

I really liked Andy Carroll. He will become world class, just not with Liverpool. Rodgers and shit Ayre will regret their naïve decision to sell him.

[lifetime fan]

I really liked Andy Carroll. He will become world class, just not with Liverpool. Rodgers and shit Ayre will regret their naïve decision to sell him.

 

 

He won't for one glaringly obvious reason.

 

He's fucking shit.