Israel president Shimon Peres accuses Britain of pro-Arab bias

[Anubis]

Up there with Yochanan Gordon's now-deleted Times Of Israel blog post calling for full on genocide. He's since apologised, saying he wasn't advocating killing. Which is an interesting interpretation of what he originally wrote.

 

 

Judging by the numbers of casualties on both sides in this almost one-month old war one would be led to the conclusion that Israel has resorted to disproportionate means in fighting a far less- capable enemy. That is as far as what meets the eye. But, it's now obvious that the US and the UN are completely out of touch with the nature of this foe and are therefore not qualified to dictate or enforce the rules of this war - because when it comes to terror there is much more than meets the eye.

 

I wasn't aware of this, but it seems that the nature of warfare has undergone a major shift over the years. Where wars were usually waged to defeat the opposing side, today it seems - and judging by the number of foul calls it would indicate - that today's wars are fought to a draw. I mean, whoever heard of a timeout in war? An NBA Basketball game allows six timeouts for each team during the course of a game, but last I checked this is a war! We are at war with an enemy whose charter calls for the annihilation of our people. Nothing, then, can be considered disproportionate when we are fighting for our very right to live.

 

The sad reality is that Israel gets it, but its hands are being tied by world leaders who over the past six years have insisted they are such good friends with the Jewish state, that they know more regarding its interests than even they do. But there's going to have to come a time where Israel feels threatened enough where it has no other choice but to defy international warnings - because this is life or death.

 

Most of the reports coming from Gazan officials and leaders since the start of this operation have been either largely exaggerated or patently false. The truth is, it's not their fault, falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change. Still however, despite their propensity to lie, when your enemy tells you that they are bent on your destruction you believe them. Similarly, when Khaled Meshal declares that no physical damage to Gaza will dampen their morale or weaken their resolve - they have to be believed. Our sage Gedalia the son of Achikam was given intelligence that Yishmael Ben Nesanyah was plotting to kill him. However, in his piety or rather naiveté Gedalia dismissed the report as a random act of gossip and paid no attention to it. To this day, the day following Rosh Hashana is commemorated as a fast day in the memory of Gedalia who was killed in cold blood on the second day of Rosh Hashana during the meal. They say the definition of insanity is repeating the same mistakes over and over. History is there to teach us lessons and the lesson here is that when your enemy swears to destroy you - you take him seriously.

 

Hamas has stated forthrightly that it idealizes death as much as Israel celebrates life. What other way then is there to deal with an enemy of this nature other than obliterate them completely?

 

News anchors such as those from CNN, BBC and Al-Jazeera have not missed an opportunity to point out the majority of innocent civilians who have lost their lives as a result of this war. But anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian. If you'll counter, that Hamas has been seen abusing civilians who have attempted to leave their homes in response to Israeli warnings to leave - well then, your beginning to come to terms with the nature of this enemy which should automatically cause the rules of standard warfare to be suspended.

 

Everyone agrees that Israel has the right to defend itself as well as the right to exercise that right. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon has declared it, Obama and Kerry have clearly stated that no one could be expected to sit idle as thousands of rockets rain down on the heads of its citizens, placing them in clear and present danger. It seems then that the only point of contention is regarding the measure of punishment meted out in this situation.

 

I will conclude with a question for all the humanitarians out there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu clearly stated at the outset of this incursion that his objective is to restore a sustainable quiet for the citizens of Israel. We have already established that it is the responsibility of every government to ensure the safety and security of its people. If political leaders and military experts determine that the only way to achieve its goal of sustaining quiet is through genocide is it then permissible to achieve those responsible goals?

 

 

[Jairzinho]

 "falsehood and deceit is part of the very fabric of who they are and that will never change"

 

 "anyone who lives with rocket launchers installed or terror tunnels burrowed in or around the vicinity of their home cannot be considered an innocent civilian"

 

Wow.

[aws]

Chillingly reminiscent of the crushing of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

[torahboy]

'Ant-semites', 'self loathing Jews', 'holocaust deniers'; whenever the question of Zionist's morality or their culpability for today's atrocities in Gaza are brought up these are the terms they employ. They are 'insulted' by the comparison of National Socialism and Zionism but fail to explain how the philosophies espousing an Aryan nation and a purely Jewish state differ in their objectives.

 

It can no longer be considered risible that Gaza is a modern day version of the Warsaw ghetto, nor the tactics of displacement  employed by the Israeli government differ from those of the SS in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, when Zionists assisted the transport of ordinary Jews to the death camps.

 

Zionism is a disfigured and corrupted philosophy - going from being a genuine movement for refuge and safety for the Jewish diaspora to a paranoid, sociopathic creed of hatred and fear that justifies its excesses on a daily vasis by blaming the rest of the world. It is evil and can only become more dangerous.

[Funkasy]

no country in  modern times has been attacked so many times and by so many surrounding country as israel and you think its strange they are a little paranoid ? especially when rockets have been sent into their country every day since the state was formed. 

[ZonkoVille77]

http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/08/02/idf-censor-tells-ny-times-it-cannot-report-it-killed-2nd-lt-hadar-goldin/

 

Almost, dare I say it, Nazi like.

[ZonkoVille77]

This is one of the best way to defeat Israel. Hit them in the soft corner: their economy

________________________

LISTS TO BOYCOTT ISRAEL PRODUCTS

______________

Shops & Clothing:

______________

- Starbucks

- Tesco

- M&S

- Disney Shop

- McDonalds

- Hugo Boss

- Sunglass Hut

- Ray Ban

- GAP

- Giorgio Armani

- Calvin Klein

- Ralph Lauren - Playtex

- Banana Republic

- River Island

- Timberland 

______________

Drinks:

______________

- Coca Cola

- Fruitopia

- Fanta

- Kia Ora

- Lilt

- Pepsi

- Sprite

- Sunkist

- Evian

- Volvic

- Nescafé

- Nesquik - Perrier

- Vittel

______________

Foods & Chocolates:

______________

- Nestle

- Maggi(Noodles/soups)

- Buitoni

- Crosse & Blackwell

- KitKat

- MilkyBar

- Quality Street

- Smarties

- After Eight 

- Aero

- Lion

- Polo

- Felix (Cat Food)

______________

Makeup/Perfumes & Health:

______________

- L'Oreal

- Clinique - DKNY

e- Prescriptives - Origins - La

- Bumble & Bumble

- Kate (Cream)

- Vaseline

- Johnson & Johnson (Baby Oil)

- Huggies

- Garnier 

______________

Others:

______________

- Arsenal Football Club

- AOL

- Time Warner Time Life Magazine

- CNN

- Barbie

- Intel - Motorola

- Kotex

- HSBC 

- caterpillar 

- The Sun

- The Times

- Australian Newspapers

- National Geographic

- Star Channels (Indian)

- Sky

- Fox

- Nokia

- Standard Newspapers

- New York Post

- The Telegraph

- Independent

[ZonkoVille77]

http://quadraro.deviantart.com/art/Boycott-Israeli-Goods-255187450

[Phoenix]

http://quadraro.deviantart.com/art/Boycott-Israeli-Goods-255187450

 

 

Mate, you might want to turn your computer off. Intel do a lot of R & D in Israel.

[Jairzinho]

Mate, you might want to turn your computer off. Intel do a lot of R & D in Israel.

 

Boycotting all you can is better than not boycotting anything.

[Rotpeter]

What are the actual, stated Israeli objectives for this offensive and how close are they to meeting them?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

What are the actual, stated Israeli objectives for this offensive and how close are they to meeting them?

I think they're quite fluid.

 

In the sense of a "we can't use this objective anymore to justify us blowing stuff up, let's add another objective" kind of fluid.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

https://richardedmondsondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/israeliprlesson.jpg

[ZonkoVille77]

Mate, you might want to turn your computer off. Intel do a lot of R & D in Israel.

Have to start somewhere.

It's impossible to avoid them all but I will where I can.

[Arl arse]

Be very surprised if Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz ever work in Hollywood again.

[stringvest]

Be very surprised if Javier Bardem and Penelope Cruz ever work in Hollywood again.

Not all Jews are fans of Israel.

[Rotpeter]

I think they're quite fluid.

 

In the sense of a "we can't use this objective anymore to justify us blowing stuff up, let's add another objective" kind of fluid.

I get that.  Not the answer I was looking for though.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I get that. Not the answer I was looking for though.

Maybe you should e-Mail Benjamin Netanyahu then?

[Dougie Do'ins]

Christian fucking fruit loops.

 

https://www.facebook.com/ChristiansUnitedforIsrael

[Jairzinho]

Christian fucking fruit loops.

 

https://www.facebook.com/ChristiansUnitedforIsrael

 

For fuck sake.

[Rotpeter]

Maybe you should e-Mail Benjamin Netanyahu then?

If you don't know just say so.  We won't laugh at you.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

If you don't know just say so. We won't laugh at you.

Well, you came on a forum and asked the question.....

[Spy Bee]

If you don't know just say so.  We won't laugh at you.

He answered you. Their stated objectives are to destroy the tunnels, for now, then they will continue to move the goalposts. The unstated objectives are to exterminate a people.

[Arl arse]

Christian fucking fruit loops.

 

https://www.facebook.com/ChristiansUnitedforIsrael

Pure bullshit propaganda.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Why is such a fuss being made of this soldier who's funeral was today?

 

I don't mean to be unduly harsh, but now that the kidnap lie has been blown out of the water, isn't he just another soldier who is just another casualty of war? You know, one if those things "that happen" in war, like civilian casualties?

 

Why is his death being escalated beyond the deaths of all the other IDF soldiers who have succumbed during this war?

 

If one was cynical, you could see it as a deliberate attempt by the power bearers in Israel to attempt to re-shift the focus in the PR side of things, which they are slowly but surely beginning to lose?

 

Given the use of hasbara, manuals to promote Israel etc, we all know now what lengths they'll go to in the PR game, to try to get people to like them.

 

So, can we really put it past them to be as cold and calculated to use the death of one of their own to try and gain sympathy, to influence PR?

 

The Israeli PR machine - akin to those pages on Facebook that use a photo of a sick child for "likes"?